VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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BobTheDuck

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Maviarab said:
You do talk some absoluite tosh. NO INCEST!!!


This completely, nothing in free roam cannot be done with simple choices and flags. Sit with someone, the other option is no longer available etc. Free roam and sandboxes are for people who want to make a game but don't actually have the real skills or dev team behind them and/or like to waste people's time to account for a lack of actual story content.

By the time free roam and all the pointless crap is coded and tested etc, you could have made another 50 renders to actually progress your story.
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And Ocean's got enough to do with getting all his renders cooked. The best thing about choices like this is that the different paths actually fel different. Most RPG/adventure style games have one main plot, with peripheral info that broadens the story. Already through the choices, but following one person, you miss out on a lot of back story. I'm sure we'll find out about Nia or Zara, or Ceril in different ways, but I think it's possible to actually miss all of the details about Melanie so far, if you're not curious. Nami's statement about Nika having been charged in the past is another great example - everyone's so caught up in Siegbert they forget they could just avoid the cat by not goin gon the raid.

What I'm hoping for is much more of this branching content. Sure we'll likely all get to the same point by the end of the next release (I doubt Ocean will do different cliffhangers for different paths) but we'll all know different things.
 
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Don Sucio said:
I think freeroaming doesn´t fit this game, it would break all the immersive that Ocean has achieved, i don´t know, for me it would break the timing and the environment, i don´t know if you get what i want to say. But said that is true that all the new elements are near to games with freeroaming, as you have said: the phone, the dialogue thing... But i don´t think Ocean suddenly makes SG a freeroaming game, nothing has showed us that idea.
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Cool I'm not a fan of free roaming either but it was hard not to start asking myself such questions when I started wondering what the phone function should look like. Usually in other games it is activated during free roaming so

- Will we have access to it at any time?
- Only at specific moments in the plot when we get a render in which Nika has to check something on his phone
- Or there will be more moments like in the book club which Bob mentioned for example during the opening of the bar we will get four windows with people to choose from to talk to and that's when the phone icon will become active

What I wonder the most is whether it will simply be supported by the story and before you open the phone functions you simply have to see a render in which Nika is holding the phone in his hand or it will simply be a permanent icon in the upper side corner that you can always activate
 
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dameromexxx said:
Cool I'm not a fan of free roaming either but it was hard not to start asking myself such questions when I started wondering what the phone function should look like. Usually in other games it is activated during free roaming so

- Will we have access to it at any time?
- Only at specific moments in the plot when we get a render in which Nika has to check something on his phone
- Or there will be more moments like in the book club which Bob mentioned for example during the opening of the bar we will get four windows with people to choose from to talk to and that's when the phone icon will become active

What I wonder the most is whether it will simply be supported by the story and before you open the phone functions you simply have to see a render in which Nika is holding the phone in his hand or it will simply be a permanent icon in the upper side corner that you can always activate
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Right now none of us know much about the phone. The idea was that Nika would have the ability to browse things like Aurora, presumably Venus as well and find out extra things, like seeing Elsa on Aurora. That was a way to introduce the idea of using the apps anyway. The phone aspect - Ocean mentioned in a devlog ages ago that Nika would get invoted placed by text or people would ask him things that way, I assume that text messages and things like aurora will be interactive, but I doubt they'll be part of a free roam. We can already see the intent of text/group chat in season 1, but I guess in season 2 it's up to us whether we notice the phone or not.

As Ocean's already done that kind of choice with Nami and Sasha, I imagine he'll do something similar where there are different branches to an event. My guess is that he'll likely limit the branches so maybe you can do multiple, but maybe you can only do the one you choose. It'll certainly be interesting when we find out. My guess is that when Ocean starts implementing some of these things (rathert han setting up and churning through renders, looking for music for cinematics, vetting the work of people he's now hiring etc) he'll probably be keen to show patrons, so we'll likely see how some of it works before release. My guess is that right now, there's nothing to show of the phone or apps yet.
 
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Maviarab said:
You do talk some absolute tosh. NO INCEST!!!


This completely, nothing in free roam cannot be done with simple choices and flags. Sit with someone, the other option is no longer available etc. Free roam and sandboxes are for people who want to make a game but don't actually have the real skills or dev team behind them and/or like to waste people's time to account for a lack of actual story content.

By the time free roam and all the pointless crap is coded and tested etc, you could have made another 50 renders to actually progress your story.
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Nonsense is what is in your head. If Willie hadn't run away, he would have definitely copulated with Leia and then Leia would have given birth to something like Vanessa. The same goes for Niki and Summer. But I didn't write that this happened!!!
 
BobTheDuck

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White cat6 said:
Nonsense is what is in your head. If Willie hadn't run away, he would have definitely copulated with Leia and then Leia would have given birth to something like Vanessa. The same goes for Niki and Summer. But I didn't write that this happened!!!
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Ocean is changing the game to future proof it. No amount of theories here will persuade Ocean to risk his income for what you're imagining the situation to be. Re-read that devlog I linked for you. This is a situation outside the story, it doesn't matter what we think Willi might or might not do, what we know is that Ocean will do what he has said.

Until we see what the change does in ch4 (and retrofitting ch1,2 and 3), we don't even know what the real story is anymore. If you think about it, the reason it is taking so long is because Ocean probably has to change some renders in earlier chapters to make the change clearer, as well as make it clearer in the script what the situation is.
 
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dameromexxx

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I wonder what will happen if she actually wakes up if Ocean wants to keep it realistic then we can forget about romances. Who will we be for her brother-in-law? step-dad? friend? or nanny?

Pl@y3r said:
I don't care about lewd scenes but Nika having sex with Emilia would be the most amazing thing in this VN.
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Yeah, the secret ending where we start our own Porn studio with Emilia and Nia:sneaky:
 
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If I get caught in some crazy hedonistic fantasies, it will be sadomasochistic anal sex with Charlie in latex and vamp makeup spiced with the sharp use of a whip and I don't care about lewd scenes too

aaa and i don't forget to tell her that l fucked Robin at the end even if not true
 
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Pl@y3r said:
Yeah I was kidding 'cause obviously something more serious/important would actually be amazing but whatever...
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Bud I was just teasing. It's fine if you want to see some Emilia bangin'. Some people would love to see some Karen scenes too. I don't find either remotely attractive but we all got our preferences :p

Was 100% serious about the vomit reaction emote though. Been asking for one over a year now but the softs mods on here don't seem to appreciate "negative" emotes very much. I still miss the facepalm :(
 
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RNasc4444 said:
Bud I was just teasing. It's fine if you want to see some Emilia bangin'. Some people would love to see some Karen scenes too. I don't find either remotely attractive but we all got our preferences :p

Was 100% serious about the vomit reaction emote though. Been asking for one over a year now but the softs mods on here don't seem to appreciate "negative" emotes very much. I still miss the facepalm :(
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I guess they'd see it as a way of kink shaming posts. Just my guess....would still like one as well though lol
 
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