Ayam85

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Well…that’s how it is. Granblue fantasy Relink is finally coming out after all this time. The game was already in the back of my mind. Time to put this game where “Lost Soul Aside” currently is and where “Peria Chronicles” was.
Starfield was announced, developed and released during the development of SS. We also got two full Tekken games (7&8) between 2017 and 2024.
 

mrpopo69

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You know, at this point It's not even worth arguing about the time it takes for the next update to come out. It's really is just better to move on to another game or just follow DC's streams. While I still personally disapprove of DC taking a year to release an update, it really is up to the patrons to decide if they want to continue supporting him or not.

A sad sign of something being good is that it attracts a proportional amount of toxicity.
People gotta learn that that's all there is to talk about because there is no content

when there is an update and there is content people usually discuss it for a bit or ask for help to progress and share their thoughts on said content

then it's back to "when is the next update?"
 

DredgenVayn

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Please, do tell, what false promises?
To help - please be clear and concise. And note, again, the game is not a tier benefit. It's not locked behind any paywall.
They are getting what their tier benefits say they get for their support.
Also, stringing them along for what? A free game for all?
Character updates, story updates. Like Judith for example. Promised an update months ago.
 

Count Morado

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Character updates, story updates. Like Judith for example. Promised an update months ago.
The updates were never given timetables.
The following order of next updates has not changed since the inclusion of the tech update by the vote of the patreons three years ago and before the inclusion - the order of the three character updates were the same as they are now.
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As for the tech update, yes, we've gone over time and again that 3 years ago DC was underinformed, made a terrible estimate, and shot himself in the foot and has since been poor managed. We all agree on that. However, no matter how poorly it's been handled - he hasn't promised anything in the past 2 years of when that tech update would be released nor the character updates. Just simply the order of the expected future updates.

There was no promise of any "update months ago."

Your claim of "promised update" holds no water, but is simply you being disgruntled that that progress isn't going the pace you personally wish. There is no problem being disappointed, a lot of us are. However, don't make up things which don't exist to give false credence to your accusations.

And again, update releases - whether the release themselves or the timetable of releases - are not tier benefits for subscriber patreons. You're repeating a claim that is already known as not true. Your claim of "stringing along" also holds no water.
 
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The updates were never given timetables.
The following order of next updates has not changed since the inclusion of the tech update by the vote of the patreons three years ago and before the inclusion - the order of the three character updates were the same as they are now.
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As for the tech update, yes, we've gone over time and again that 3 years ago DC was underinformed, made a terrible estimate, and shot himself in the foot and has since been poor managed. We all agree on that. However, no matter how poorly it's been handled - he hasn't promised anything in the past 2 years of when that tech update would be released nor the character updates. Just simply the order of the expected future updates.

There was no promise of any "update months ago."

Your claim of "promised update" holds no water, but is simply you being disgruntled that that progress isn't going the pace you personally wish. There is no problem being disappointed, a lot of us are. However, don't make up things which don't exist to give false credence to your accusations.

And again, update releases - whether the release themselves or the timetable of releases - are not tier benefits for subscriber patreons. You're repeating a claim that is already known as not true. Your claim of "stringing along" also holds no water.
At this point there is nothing you can say to defend his actions.

I'm a game developer myself, and already worked in some indie and original games, and even as a substitute in big projects like Zelda for nintendo

With the amount of money that this Mister is doing by month, if he uses 30% of his budget, he can literally, finish the game in just 3 months, working fom Monday to friday and taking 2 days off.

In this point is literally insane to defend him, even forced blindness.

He just wants to get as much as money he wants, it's impossible to take this long to change the Tech of the game, i even offered some of my services, even making a reasonoble price, just because i like the game, but he refused. (said that had suficient people)

maybe he has, what he doesen't have is desire to finish now, in any way he is losing a lot of patreons for this, and creating some fanboys that defend him no matter what, the game will be finished when they are 80 years old, and still wil defend him like mindless bots.

it's your choice to believe in me or not, and idon't care which you pick, for me its undeniable what's happening here.
 

watermankaku

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At this point there is nothing you can say to defend his actions.

I'm a game developer myself, and already worked in some indie and original games, and even as a substitute in big projects like Zelda for nintendo

With the amount of money that this Mister is doing by month, if he uses 30% of his budget, he can literally, finish the game in just 3 months, working fom Monday to friday and taking 2 days off.

In this point is literally insane to defend him, even forced blindness.

He just wants to get as much as money he wants, it's impossible to take this long to change the Tech of the game, i even offered some of my services, even making a reasonoble price, just because i like the game, but he refused. (said that had suficient people)

maybe he has, what he doesen't have is desire to finish now, in any way he is losing a lot of patreons for this, and creating some fanboys that defend him no matter what, the game will be finished when they are 80 years old, and still wil defend him like mindless bots.

it's your choice to believe in me or not, and idon't care which you pick, for me its undeniable what's happening here.
Excellent friends, hope to cooperate in the future, I am practicing 3d modeling.
 

Count Morado

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So, a whole week without working.
Your point? It's a rare exception that someone doesn't take time off from work for a week from time to time. Whether for sickness or other reasons.

I work in the United States and I get 3 weeks of paid vacation, 7 days paid holidays, 2 days of paid floating holiday time, and 1 week of paid PTO that can be used for sickness, appointments, or just because I want to. That's about 6 weeks out of 52 per year. And I'm not at the max possible at my employer. And yes, I use them all (or cash out what I can).

Edit: Oh, and then there's 12-14 weeks of paid parental leave for either parent (birthing or non-birthing). As well as any federally/state mandated leaves that are unpaid.

Also, I could miss a full week of work without pay (and get written up for it) without losing my job. After three months, that rolls off my record and I could attempt to do it again. However, at some point my employer may decide I'm malingering and find other reasons to let me go.
 

Microtom

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Your point? It's a rare exception that someone doesn't take time off from work for a week from time to time. Whether for sickness or other reasons.

I work in the United States and I get 3 weeks of paid vacation, 7 days paid holidays, 2 days of paid floating holiday time, and 1 week of paid PTO that can be used for sickness, appointments, or just because I want to. That's about 6 weeks out of 52 per year. And I'm not at the max possible at my employer. And yes, I use them all (or cash out what I can).

Edit: Oh, and then there's 12-14 weeks of paid parental leave for either parent (birthing or non-birthing). As well as any federally/state mandated leaves that are unpaid.

Also, I could miss a full week of work without pay (and get written up for it) without losing my job. After three months, that rolls off my record and I could attempt to do it again. However, at some point my employer may decide I'm malingering and find other reasons to let me go.

No point other than it's discouraging. Your comparison with paid leave isn't super useful considering DC only works 2 hours a day on his game.

I mean, DC can work however long he wants per day on his game. But it's just discouraging how long it all takes.
 
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