VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Avaron1974]

You seem to be hung up on the whole fantasizing about someone else thing.

I'm hung up on it because, like you mentioned in your own post, people keep saying she was thirsting after others from the start but she wasn't. He was the first to do that, hers came much later. It wasn't brought up until her conversation with her sister.

In fact Nicole starts thinking she made a mistake by letting him go down to a holiday resort. She tells Georgina that she's worried he will find someone else. She mentions that he's told her he's already met a bunch of people and she's started getting paranoid.

It was Georgina who told her that if she's worried about him cheating on her, why doesn't she do the same.

edit: By the way, I've seen you mention the divorce case point a few times. I'm pretty sure the woman seeking a divorce was not wondering if an open relationship would have saved their marriage. She was wondering if going for the break would have. Nicole just decided to go a step further.

When it's brought up and she says it could have saved her marriage Nicole asks if she would have been okay with her husband seeing other women and he would be okay with her seeing other men and Meredith replies she doesn't know but after 15 years things had gone stale and it could have improved things.

Some of you seem to have built this whole narrative up that she's a shit girlfriend that was looking to dive on every cock she saw yet it's just not what's shown in the game.

It's like some of you have taken what's there and magnified it tenfold then added some extra for good measure. The whole thirst thing was someone else yet some of you keep blaming her.

It's beyond weird.

It's like you want to hate her and made up a ton of reasons why she's a mega bitch yet none of it happens.

 

[KeiNineX]

Well, as of right now we are not doing that, and we have not done that because we’ve always given a choice.

Yea but that was not the question, you said that in the future there will be forced sharing with the main Li (That's how I understand it atleast), so it just seems that you are out of touch if you think that people will be cool with. (Again, I stoped playing like after the first update of chapter 3 I think so I don't know what it's like now)

 

[tanstaafl]

I'm hung up on it because, like you mentioned in your own post, people keep saying she was thirsting after others from the start but she wasn't. He was the first to do that, hers came much later. It wasn't brought up until her conversation with her sister.

In fact Nicole starts thinking she made a mistake by letting him go down to a holiday resort. She tells Georgina that she's worried he will find someone else. She mentions that he's told her he's already met a bunch of people and she's started getting paranoid.

It was Georgina who told her that if she's worried about him cheating on her, why doesn't she do the same.



When it's brought up and she says it could have saved her marriage Nicole asks if she would have been okay with her husband seeing other women and he would be okay with her seeing other men and Meredith replies she doesn't know but after 15 years things had gone stale and it could have improved things.

Some of you seem to have built this whole narrative up that she's a shit girlfriend that was looking to dive on every cock she saw yet it's just not what's shown in the game.

It's like some of you have taken what's there and magnified it tenfold then added some extra for good measure. The whole thirst thing was someone else yet some of you keep blaming her.

It's beyond weird.

It's like you want to hate her and made up a ton of reasons why she's a mega bitch yet none of it happens.

And some of you have built up this whole narrative where she's the one that's having a bad time and everything is unfair to her. The one good part of the writing of this game so far is that neither one of them is perfect. He has issues, she has issues. She even wondered herself if she is too controlling (the answer is yes). And she puts forth an option that the vast majority of men IRL would puke at. I know I'm not the only married guy in this thread. All you other married guys chime in real quick, how many of you would be happy if your wife wanted an open relationship and how many would not be? I'm sure there will be some on both sides.

 

[tanstaafl]

Yea but that was not the question, you said that in the future there will be forced sharing with the main Li (That's how I understand it atleast), so it just seems that you are out of touch if you think that people will be cool with. (Again, I stoped playing like after the first update of chapter 3 I think so I don't know how it's now)

Not really "forced". You have the option of playing a porn game as much like real life as possible and being loyal, or the LIs will sleep with other people. You know...normal porn games stuff.

 

[Johnysilver771]

so bad animations, a lot of boring dialogues

 

[Rey Palpatine]

Kinda, sorta. Play the game as much like real life as possible and you're good, play the game like it's a porn game and the LI sleeps with other men. Because that's what people want from a porn game.

You're pussyfooting around, trying to have the best of both worlds. Just implement NTR and get it over with.

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[Trikus]

Not really "forced". You have the option of playing a porn game as much like real life as possible and being loyal, or the LIs will sleep with other people. You know...normal porn games stuff.

Yeah, MrDots games always give you the option when it comes to sharing sex scenes or scenes without the main girl. If you don't want to see it, click no and you will never see it. You are given two opportunities to avoid sex with Vicky in this update. I've never understood the "NO SEX FOR YOU" attitude while the male character is happily playing hide the sausage with every girl he meets.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Yea but that was not the question, you said that in the future there will be forced sharing with the main Li (That's how I understand it atleast), so it just seems that you are out of touch if you think that people will be cool with. (Again, I stoped playing like after the first update of chapter 3 I think so I don't know what it's like now)

Let me put it this way - MDots has always made a choice.

 

[tanstaafl]

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I'm fine with that being in the game. I may be one of the few people in this thread that is OK with NTR. That said, Jeff trolling by saying his personal fantasies is not MrDots games putting it in the game. They're pussyfooting around, trying to get the best of both worlds. I'm gonna go ahead and say that people like me will be along most of the way not letting them have it.

 

[Johnny6]

DMD has made progress on this front in that the main love interest will have sex with at least two other men besides the MC. And these men are not written as adversaries to the MC. And the MC is not being written as having a fetish for being in a beta position. I’m not sure any other VN on f95zone is doing this, unless it is written from a female’s perspective. (If there are others, please let me know).

https://f95zone.to/threads/deliverance-ch-9-1thousand.36263/
Here it is, male protag who is no beta and option to share his wife.

 

[tanstaafl]

Let me put it this way - MDots has always made a choice.

And you have stated, very clearly, that going forward that choice is limited to "Be like real life" or the LI sleeps with multiple men.

 

[Jeff Steel]

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I rather like that Gerald route I outlined. In some ways, Gerald sleeping around is similar to MC sleeping around. Like father, like son.

 

[KeiNineX]

Let me put it this way - MDots has always made a choice.

You either worded it in a weird way or I am an idiot (or both) because I don't know what that means. He has always given us a choice but he won't in the future?

Edit: Oh and btw you still didn't answer that question.

 

[tanstaafl]

You either worded it in a weird way or I am an idiot (or both) because I don't know what that means.

He's wrong though. In Melody you had choices. In DMD and Sunshine, you have a single choice. The choice between playing a porn game as much like real life as possible or the LI sleeps with multiple men. Something to do multple paths being too hard despite a single developer game like Acting Lessons having 22 multiple paths.

 

[Rey Palpatine]

I rather like that Gerald route I outlined. In some ways, Gerald sleeping around is similar to MC sleeping around. Like father, like son.

It's disgusting, as is Ashley's sexual predator.

I am a woman, you cannot accuse me of being a sexist hypocrite.

 

[Avaron1974]

And some of you have built up this whole narrative where she's the one that's having a bad time and everything is unfair to her.

I haven't built any narrative, I said in a post earlier it's on both of them, relationships take 2.

I'm just trying to balance out all the "she's a mega bitch" posts where they seem to be inventing shit she hasn't even done. The only thing she's done is put forward an option you didn't like, you also have the option of saying no, that's a silly idea.

Putting forward options doesn't mean she wants to spread her legs for the world. It was just an option, one he could turn down.

It's fine not liking a character but some people have made it a vendetta and inventing shit she didn't even do and it's seriously fucking weird.

 

[tanstaafl]

I'm becoming more and more amused as this debate goes on. Mostly be Jeff ignoring the fact that the game will literally not allow the MC to cheat. He's going on about the MC not keeping it in his pants in a game HE IS MAKING where the game will not let the MC cheat at all. It's not an option. It will never happen. Why? Previous options: Don't accept open relationship proposal, in which the game shuts down all possibility of other LIs, or Accept open relationship proposal, in which case HE'S NOT CHEATING IF WITH OTHER WOMEN.

This, of course, is beautiful, mostly because Jeff is going on about the MC keeping it in his pants, while the game is literally forcing the MC into an open relationship he didn't want, per the plot that MrDots devs wrote. Now even that is going away, the MC is going to be single. No more issue. BUT WAIT. We have Jeff's warning that all primary LIs will sleep with other men if the MC does. Who becomes the primary LI after the break up?

That's an interesting question, because, perJeff, whoever that may be will probably be sleeping with other men.

 

[Darkaura]

Someday we won’t have to give a choice in this area because the fan base will find it is the norm.

I dunno. Sure sounds to me, like a recipe to losing half of your Patrons.

 

[Jeff Steel]

And you have stated, very clearly, that going forward that choice is limited to "Be like real life" or the LI sleeps with multiple men.

No, going forward the choice is limited to being faithful or breaking up.

...oh, wait, I did say that once you break up with Nicole, she will sleep with other men. At this point Nicole has only slept with MC - one man her entire life. While datasets vary, if you take the breakup path, I estimate Nicole will then sleep with 3-9 men.

 

[Jeff Steel]

I'm becoming more and more amused as this debate goes on. Mostly be Jeff ignoring the fact that the game will literally not allow the MC to cheat. He's going on about the MC not keeping it in his pants in a game HE IS MAKING where the game will not let the MC cheat at all. It's not an option. It will never happen. Why? Previous options: Don't accept open relationship proposal, in which the game shuts down all possibility of other LIs, or Accept open relationship proposal, in which case HE'S NOT CHEATING IF WITH OTHER WOMEN.

This, of course, is beautiful, mostly because Jeff is going on about the MC keeping it in his pants, while the game is literally forcing the MC into an open relationship he didn't want, per the plot that MrDots devs wrote. Now even that is going away, the MC is going to be single. No more issue. BUT WAIT. We have Jeff's warning that all primary LIs will sleep with other men if the MC does. Who becomes the primary LI after the break up?

That's an interesting question, because, perJeff, whoever that may be will probably be sleeping with other men.

I’m sorry, I’ve reached my reaction limit for today.