VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[tanstaafl]

Plans have changed.

Next update will have option to stay faithful or break up with her.

Turns out she was never going to have sex with anyone else. She was going to get off hearing the MC's stories with other women but those plans are now axed and it's either stay together or break up, cuck queen (where the woman enjoys her man sleeping with other women) plans have been cancelled.

Actually, Jeff admitted that he proposed that, but it was not approved by the team. So that was never going to happen regardless of changes.

 

[Avaron1974]

If that is hypocrite then complain to the team they added 8 or more female characters and they cannot make sex scenes for every one of them in every update. MC roaming around is a design choice or you will have no sex till update whatever high number you want if go for the wrong woman. If want to see a female fucking around, for that there are female protag games in the end instead of male protags.

To me I am glad I can finally break up with Nicole, since I see that relation as toxic to MC due to his own past and their interactions. Now whose fault that is does not matter and I hope Nicole gets happy with MC's father as long as I do not have to see it though he will likely cheat on her as well.

What are you talking about?

I said it's hypocritical to expect Nicole to be faithful when the MC is going to cheat, i've got no idea where your ramble is aimed at.

 

[Ayhsel]

Plans have changed.

Next update will have option to stay faithful or break up with her.

Turns out she was never going to have sex with anyone else. She was going to get off hearing the MC's stories with other women but those plans are now axed and it's either stay together or break up, cuck queen (where the woman enjoys her man sleeping with other women) plans have been cancelled.

When you make a mistake, you correct it. When you make two mistakes, you do the same.

Their first mistake was to allow people's complains to modify their product instead of repeating like a mantra "There will be no forced NTR, stop complaining people".

Their second mistake was to change their product and inform about that change. THIS needs to be corrected too. But I doubt they will now... fuck cancel culture, once again.

 

[Mpkstroff]

Actually, Jeff admitted that he proposed that, but it was not approved by the team. So that was never going to happen regardless of changes.

Yes, I read that too. Then, what is the plan that got droped? =S

 

[DA22]

What are you talking about?

I said it's hypocritical to expect Nicole to be faithful when the MC is going to cheat, i've got no idea where your ramble is aimed at.

Lol how long have you been playing these games? You know their rules as well as I do and the reactions. We are not talking about real live hypocrisy, but simple limitation of what you can add in games in a reasonable amount of time and that how more you add of different fetishes the more watered down a game becomes and less interesting or even a turnoff for some, since you just cannot do twenty branches or characters good with a small team.

Yeah I would also love to see a porn game dev with three times the staff of a regular Triple AAA studio and a budget of millions of dollars making a porn game for over three years that can doall in really separate branches and then selling the completed version, unfortunately that is not going to happen for a while still if ever.

The point is MC is supposed to cheat in the game, that is the way it has been designed. (Unless you want to play a no-sex simulator while playing a porn game or have sex once every 4 updates if loyal to one girl). What Nicole does does not interest me, as long as I do not have to see it and certainly not after a breakup. Besides MC was loyal to Nicole until that phone call.

 

[keer]

How long does this update take? I'm tired of playing)) Thank you

 

[Avaron1974]

Actually, Jeff admitted that he proposed that, but it was not approved by the team. So that was never going to happen regardless of changes.

Jeff has done nothing but troll, he also says he proposed she fucked his dad and had a whole romance plot.

The plans proposed to go forward were for her to be a cuck queen, dots even said she wouldn't fuck anyone else in his big message that was posted a few pages back.

 

[Lederzar]

How long does this update take? I'm tired of playing)) Thank you

That same thing happened to me when I tried to play your game what a piece of shit dude thank goodness you didn't continue it

 

[DA22]

Jeff has done nothing but troll, he also says he proposed she fucked his dad and had a whole romance plot.

The plans proposed to go forward were for her to be a cuck queen, dots even said she wouldn't fuck anyone else in his big message that was posted a few pages back.

Actually if you forget Gerald is a bit older and a cheater he might make a decent fit for Nicole, Brody would make a better BF for her tough I guess based on personalities and things they care for. Well after the breakup Nicole is completely free to do as she wishes, just please do not show it. I would not mind to have a happy end for each girl MC does not end up with in that path.

 

[Avaron1974]

Actually if you forget Gerald is a bit older and a cheater he might make a decent fit for Nicole, Brody would make a better BF for her tough I guess based on personalities and things they care for. Well after the breakup Nicole is completely free to do as she wishes, just please do not show it. I would not mind to have a happy end for each girl MC does not end up with in that path.

What do you mean things she cares for?

She was nothing like Brody, the only thing she worried about money wise is paying their mortgage which is pretty damn normal.

She says to her sister she is worried her boyfriend would meet someone else and now some of you have her pegged as a gold digging slut.

I think i've played a different game to some of you.

They have been arguing for months and she wanted them both to have a bit of time apart so it didn't get worse. She only proposed an idea after hearing it might have fixed her clients marriage.

She never once mentioned cheating, that was Georgina telling her to do it.

 

[DA22]

What do you mean things she cares for?

She was nothing like Brody, the only thing she worried about money wise is paying their mortgage which is pretty damn normal.

She says to her sister she is worried her boyfriend would meet someone else and now some of you have her pegged as a gold digging slut.

I think i've played a different game to some of you.

How long ago did you play episode 1? It was clear she was not happy in that relation which got even worse after MC through no fault of his own, but just cause of office politics got fired and how she reacted to that. Now if you think that showed compassion for MC or a deep love and caring for him on a day that was even shittier for him as her. Even if it double crossed some of her plans and needed a rethink of those plans. Well then we have different ideas about that.

That MC has a personality due to his past where he is overeager to please her and was prepared to let her shape his whole future just to be with her, does not help either and is likely part of their problems.

 

[Trikus]

Story speculation time. Where did Ashley and Trisha go to when they left the hotel to Amy for a couple of months? My guess, they went to track down Gerald. Trisha came clean to Ashley that she is the one who Gerald cheated with. Claret referred to her hair colour. They went there to get a paternity test done on Shortcake and Gerald. The test results are in the envelope that MC and Shortcake retrieved. Trisha made sure that both MC and Shortcake didn't look inside the envelope. Shortcake will be another half-sister.

 

[Avaron1974]

How long ago did you play episode 1? It was clear she was not happy in that relation which got even worse after MC through no fault of his own, but just cause of office politics got fired and how she reacted to that. Now if you think that showed compassion for MC or a deep love and caring for him on a day that was even shittier for him as her. Even if it double crossed some of her plans and needed a rethink of those plans. Well then we have different ideas about that.

That MC has a personality due to his past where he is overeager to please her and was prepared to let her shape his whole future just to be with her, does not help either and is likely part of their problems.

I went through it an hour ago and in no way is she unhappy.

She's stressed because she can't cover the mortgage on her own. She's tired of the constant arguing they have done over the last few months.

She got annoyed when she went out of her way to get him a job after the summer and he'd done nothing but watch tv in his boxer shorts.

She doesn't want to lose him, even had sex with him twice, one while he was fantasising about someone else while telling her he wants a threesome with another girl.

As for trying to please her .... fucking how?

He asks for a threesome, sits around watching tv, tells her he's going to help his sister and then when he's down there tells her about all the amazing people he's met leaving her paranoid he's going to find someone else.

How in the almighty nipple of Artemis is that pleasing her?

Sure there are things she could have handled better like not using her clients advice to try and fix problems in her own relationship and deff not listening to Georgina.

She's scared of losing him but sick of all the fighting and worried about their future.

But sure, she's a terrible person and the Mc is so hard done by leaving her to work while he goes to a holiday resort. I feel so bad for him.

 

[kantigura]

Story speculation time. Where did Ashley and Trisha go to when they left the hotel to Amy for a couple of months? My guess, they went to track down Gerald. Trisha came clean to Ashley that she is the one who Gerald cheated with. Claret referred to her hair colour. They went there to get a paternity test done on Shortcake and Gerald. The test results are in the envelope that MC and Shortcake retrieved. Trisha made sure that both MC and Shortcake didn't look inside the envelope. Shortcake will be another half-sister.

Now that would be a twist for sure, and would really make Gerald out to be a massive jerk.

 

[tanstaafl]

I went through it an hour ago and in no way is she unhappy.

She's stressed because she can't cover the mortgage on her own. She's tired of the constant arguing they have done over the last few months.

She got annoyed when she went out of her way to get him a job after the summer and he'd done nothing but watch tv in his boxer shorts.

She doesn't want to lose him, even had sex with him twice, one while he was fantasising about someone else while telling her he wants a threesome with another girl.

As for trying to please her .... fucking how?

He asks for a threesome, sits around watching tv, tells her he's going to help his sister and then when he's down there tells her about all the amazing people he's met leaving her paranoid he's going to find someone else.

How in the almighty nipple of Artemis is that pleasing her?

Sure there are things she could have handled better like not using her clients advice to try and fix problems in her own relationship and deff not listening to Georgina.

She's scared of losing him but sick of all the fighting and worried about their future.

But sure, she's a terrible person and the Mc is so hard done by leaving her to work while he goes to a holiday resort. I feel so bad for him.

The more I've thought about it, the more I do come to agree with you about her. She's not a bad person, but that does not guarantee that she is good for the MC. There are at least two specific instances where the game points out that the MC didn't even want to be a lawyer, but decided to do so for her. She is a very motivated person and her priorities are obviously success and career to a much higher degree than the MCs as well.

Mix these two facts in with the fact that the MC in no way wanted an open relationship, but instead wanted to remain devoted to her, and we're left with a bleak image of that relationship.

 

[Trikus]

I went through it an hour ago and in no way is she unhappy.

She's stressed because she can't cover the mortgage on her own. She's tired of the constant arguing they have done over the last few months.

She got annoyed when she went out of her way to get him a job after the summer and he'd done nothing but watch tv in his boxer shorts.

She doesn't want to lose him, even had sex with him twice, one while he was fantasising about someone else while telling her he wants a threesome with another girl.

As for trying to please her .... fucking how?

He asks for a threesome, sits around watching tv, tells her he's going to help his sister and then when he's down there tells her about all the amazing people he's met leaving her paranoid he's going to find someone else.

How in the almighty nipple of Artemis is that pleasing her?

Sure there are things she could have handled better like not using her clients advice to try and fix problems in her own relationship and deff not listening to Georgina.

She's scared of losing him but sick of all the fighting and worried about their future.

But sure, she's a terrible person and the Mc is so hard done by leaving her to work while he goes to a holiday resort. I feel so bad for him.

Someone else who actually pays attention to the story and character work has appeared. I agree with all of that.

 

[DA22]

I went through it an hour ago and in no way is she unhappy.

She's stressed because she can't cover the mortgage on her own. She's tired of the constant arguing they have done over the last few months.

She got annoyed when she went out of her way to get him a job after the summer and he'd done nothing but watch tv in his boxer shorts.

She doesn't want to lose him, even had sex with him twice, one while he was fantasising about someone else while telling her he wants a threesome with another girl.

As for trying to please her .... fucking how?

He asks for a threesome, sits around watching tv, tells her he's going to help his sister and then when he's down there tells her about all the amazing people he's met leaving her paranoid he's going to find someone else.

How in the almighty nipple of Artemis is that pleasing her?

Sure there are things she could have handled better like not using her clients advice to try and fix problems in her own relationship and deff not listening to Georgina.

She's scared of losing him but sick of all the fighting and worried about their future.

But sure, she's a terrible person and the Mc is so hard done by leaving her to work while he goes to a holiday resort. I feel so bad for him.

I think you are a bit overly kind to her and looking at things a bit much from her perspective now to compensate for all of the bashers and the pleasing is basically doing everything she ever asked of him to be the kind of person she wants him to be in their relation, which actually might not be what she really wants. It is not like he studied law and such since he had a calling for that from childhood. To me Nicole is in a way an extension of his father and the kind of life his father wants him to have, instead of MC finding his own path.

She is not a bad person as such if maybe a bit to driven and career oriented, I have met quite a lot of people like her both female and male in my own working environments, but a horrible fit for MC as he is. Not her fault though, but his past and father's fault for a big part.

 

[tanstaafl]

You know, this entire debate we all have going all boils down to one basic preference.

What do we want from our porn games?

1. Do we want to live a porn fantasy?
2. Or do we want to experience building love with all that entails?

The disagreements here boil down to these two things. Do we want to live the dream or do we want a challenging game of building real ties to people? MrDot games has slowly drifted away from providing games for the first item and is hopeing to focus exclusively on games for the second item. This isn't a bad thing. It will lose them some players, but it will also gain them some players.

The ratio of gain to loss is beyond all of us to call, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[preskerd]

So can you fuck your sister yet? At least a blowjob or something? If not I would rather wait until we can actually do something with her

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Just read through the whole controversy and still don’t understand the hate people have for Nicole and the open relationship option. Those that hate her so much, why would you care what she does when you agree to her deal? Even though it was stated she wouldn’t sleep with anyone anyway.

I actually really like her and agreed to the deal without thinking because I wanted to keep her. I find her cute and I was sure that we would be able to eventually get her to join in the fun in some way. I guess not now.