Zeca Suez

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Only guesses I have are:
1) They might have been producing a lot of the endgame content alongside released updates so maybe they have more done than we think.
2) They streamlined things to be able to produce content faster.
3) There might be some shenanigans like a double evolution or something at play in the end to accelerate MC to level 5. Maybe he can do the trials as a 3...idk. Ella made a weird comment about the MC trying to do one but didn't clarify what that meant...my guess is she was talking about an evolution 5 trial. I mean in theory a 3 can also accumulate infinite power, maybe further delving into ancient memories will allow the MC to quickly amass a ton of power and do the trials as a 3 or something.
:unsure: I don't know if it applies to the 5th Evolution too or not but I remember Ella mentioning early on I think during the meeting in the Park where she lets us brainfuck her and then gives us a 6 minyak surprise attack as a present...
She said something like consuming monsters from the same line as oneself also gets you closer to your next evolution. Maybe if MC finds a hive of Tentacle bats or something after evo 4 he could pick up some speed towards his final Evolution. Though it might also be a faster way of ending up monsterfied ? They should also all get a nice little boost in power when they return from the harsher environment of the monster world back to their homeworld.

Personally double evolution for MC seems kinda unlikely cause that would mean he didn't get much chance to build up extra power to make his final evolution extra stronger.
 
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Personally double evolution for MC seems kinda unlikely cause that would mean he didn't get much chance to build up extra power to make his final evolution extra stronger.
That might not be overly relevant for several reasons. For one the MC can probably access more ancient memories for fast power gains, additionally with every level power gains increase exponentially so performing the same amount of training after an evolution will be more beneficial than before so it pretty much balances out the larger gains you might initially get if you trained more before. Plus power isn't everything...as we see in Dead End 42, Bernhardt's power reading isn't very impressive but his powers are pretty much unbeatable. And we also learn from Dead End 42 that the only 3 natural evolution 5 HERO agents are all chosen of some vastly powerful entities they are bonded with...so a natural evolution 5 will already be vastly more powerful than serum evolutions.
 

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Not a bad update and we are finally seeing some choices to having either high morals or corruption it seems. Also the Twins power seems cool once they evolve they could probably be able to speak to each other again and split. Surprise we didn't evolve considering all the dream searching we did and the next update would be exploring the monster world so more monster sex on top of all that war on the horizon.

My concern is the time difference between in the monster world and the human world like are they on the same wavelength or is one slower than the other? Meaning, that our friends on the other side could be in danger. And I was surprised at how powerful Met seems like he's a level 3 or he's just more in tune with his powers along with the other two assholes that captured us TF. Shen seems to work like an illusion of sorts or mind tricks we were able to wake ourselves up so it could be that outside interference is the way to beat him.
 
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Also why is no one talking about just how strong the super level 5s are? Reality itself is bowing down to their will. That's some Superman prime 1000000 type of power.And they're still not close to going all out.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up being as strong as the gods themselves.
 

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Honestly it didn't look like they were "holding back" that much, instead it seems they were being overconfident thinking it would be easy, then progressively started to have a harder and harder time until Shen decided to end things because they were having trouble, to then get genuinely worried when his trick failed since he had no clue about what happened at first.
They only contained Mc thanks to Shen, everything else wasn't working, yes the plan was to capture but by the end Devana had enough and was ready to kill, this shows how things went way out of proportion for them.
I don't think they would be able to even secure a kill whitout Shen, i don't know if Mc was ready to win a fight against both but i believe he definitly could survive the encounter.
They were definitely holding back and not just because mom said it, Devana herself admitted that she was just fucking around and was about to summon a monster much more dangerous than before if not for Shen stopping her.

And I don't quite understand what do you mean by harder time, as through out the whole fight the only successful damage MC inflicted on the twin is only due to element of surprise, as the twin though Shen had subdued MC and were ill prepared for his sudden retaliation, it's noting more than a lucky shot really.

If they were to go all out from the start, Devana will summon her doggy that was dangerous even for MC for a 3v1, Evander will start using name moves like when he was against Met, and if the worst come to it one of them can combine both of their power to utilize moves far above that of a normal lv 3 caliber. Fighting the twin alone is an extremely dangerous endeavor even for MC and definitely not as easy as some of the people here might think.

In this updated even the MC admit that the smarter approach of fighting them will be having another equally powerful ally to fight them simultaneously.
 

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Yeah...Henri and Bernhardt are both natural 5s and chosen themselves. This seems to be a massive thing that HERO are hiding...natural 5s all basically have to be chosen of some vastly powerful entity and they are all vastly better than serum evolved 5s. This might also be what Dr. Xanthe means when he says that the MC might have already failed a requirement for a natural 5th evolution because the MC's 3rd was basically a serum induced evolution...but he doesn't know about eye origin now connected to the MC.

It might also be precisely what makes a natural 5th evolution so dangerous and why there are trials nobody wants to talk about. Having to face vastly powerful entities who can just erase you from existence on a whim in hopes of gaining their support would make a natural 5th evolution extremely dangerous. Having to fight and potentially defeat a chosen might also be another. Going for a natural 5th evolution would basically guarantee death or success with very low chance of the latter.
You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
 

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They were definitely holding back and not just because mom said it, Devana herself admitted that she was just fucking around and was about to summon a monster much more dangerous than before if not for Shen stopping her.

And I don't quite understand what do you mean by harder time, as through out the whole fight the only successful damage MC inflicted on the twin is only due to element of surprise, as the twin though Shen had subdued MC and were ill prepared for his sudden retaliation, it's noting more than a lucky shot really.

If they were to go all out from the start, Devana will summon her doggy that was dangerous even for MC for a 3v1, Evander will start using name moves like when he was against Met, and if the worst come to it one of them can combine both of their power to utilize moves far above that of a normal lv 3 caliber. Fighting the twin alone is an extremely dangerous endeavor even for MC and definitely not as easy as some of the people here might think.

In this updated even the MC admit that the smarter approach of fighting them will be having another equally powerful ally to fight them simultaneously.
Big girl summoning a dog to kill a flying MC. I'm sure that would go amazing for her in an actual battle.

This "Cerberus" scene is so obviously cringeworthy that I wonder how people can take it seriously.
Big girl is so angry that instead of asking her brother to just slap MC's battered and unconscious body into non-existence, she summons the big bad dog to eat MC, probably waking him up and giving him a chance to regenerate inside the monster's stomach, going for 4th round.

Hopefully by the time MC faces the twins again, they will actually have some serious training, because if I see one more defensive bunker I'll die from laughter.
 

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I choose Life, Death or Resurrection, Heart and Hope. So what did I get?

Didn't see anyone mentioned what you get from choosing Life instead of Human.
 

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Big girl summoning a dog to kill a flying MC. I'm sure that would go amazing for her in an actual battle.

This "Cerberus" scene is so obviously cringeworthy that I wonder how people can take it seriously.
Big girl is so angry that instead of asking her brother to just slap MC's battered and unconscious body into non-existence, she summons the big bad dog to eat MC, probably waking him up and giving him a chance to regenerate inside the monster's stomach, going for 4th round.

Hopefully by the time MC faces the twins again, they will actually have some serious training, because if I see one more defensive bunker I'll die from laughter.
MC will not be flying if she keep summoning bombs on his wing. It was shown that the bomb appeared so fast that even MC couldn't react to it and it was powerful enough to bomb his tails to pieces much less his wing. Realistically MC will be grounded by Devana bombs, lose his mobility advantage and forced to fight a 1v3 on solid ground with opponents that can chew through his mess much faster than he can regenerate, good luck with that.
 
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MC will not be flying if she keep summoning bomb on his wing. It was shown that the bomb appeared so fast that even MC couldn't react to it and it's powerful enough to bomb his tails to pieces much less his wing. Realistically MC will be grounded by Devana bomb and forced to fight a 1v3 on solid ground.
1. MC can use his tails to suspend himself in the air.
2. MC can fly at Mach9 and rebuild his wings in an instant in his light form. Bombs aren't enough to force him to the ground if he doesn't want to.
3. Devana doesn't have any defenses (yet), so staying and spamming bombs just makes her a target for a stray tail.
4. She can't both use her bunker and spam bombs at the same time because she needs line of sight and MC can easily snipe her through slits because his tails are autonomous and can do the targeting themselves.
5. MC can just hide himself behind his huge tails and Devana won't have line of sight to bomb his wings

If Devana has the ability to just keep destroying MC's wings, then why didn't she when Evander was trying his damnest to connect? Instead she had her Bakunawa playing ping pong with him.

The only reason MC had trouble in this fight was because he had to protect his friends. Otherwise he would just use hit and run tactics and he has way higher mobility than the twins. He was forced to fight against 2 unknowns and Evander has a counter power.

There are a myriad things Devana can do to get better at fighting, starting with an armored suit, a way to fly by herself and creating monsters that are more glass-cannony so despite dying to a single hit, they pack a punch. Till she improves though, there is nothing

Having access to nuclear bombs or stronger monsters doesn't really mean anything for her combat power. She needs better applications.
MC also has enough firepower to penetrate pretty much anything with that spear form of his, but it's almost impossible to use in most fights because it needs time to build, enough space and a stationary target.
 
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You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
They are definitely chosen by something...not apostles but they are bound to some vastly powerful entities. Whether they are spawns of those entities...probably not. Just as the MC is not the spawn of the entity that chose him...the weird eye thing without a name calling itself an origin.
 

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you know this is a good porn game when people still debating about the plot even after they finish the game unlike so many other shitty cash grab scam game with shitty story on here
Frankly I'm playing this because the story is so damn good...I'd still be playing this even if there was no porn.
 

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You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
Not necessarily.
The Eye and MC are "Chosen" according to second evolution dialogue, yet he is the spawn of either Body or Memory, and MC can't be a chosen of any of them because the Eye is supposed to be higher in hierarchy.

Also the way the Eye speaks, is like MC is chosen by a God or something. It's very complicated and we don't have any information at all on how this works.
 

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Not necessarily.
The Eye and MC are "Chosen" according to second evolution dialogue, yet he is the spawn of either Body or Memory, and MC can't be a chosen of any of them because the Eye is supposed to be higher in hierarchy.
Man if the MC can keep his mind together while accepting that thing he will be something special...but I suspect that won't happen until 5th evolution. I kinda suspect that's what the the dangerous trials will be for.
 
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Man if the MC can keep his mind together while accepting that thing he will be something special...but I suspect that won't happen until 5th evolution. I kinda suspect that's what the the dangerous trials will be for.
I'm under the impression that perfectly joining with the Eye will be part of a high corruption ending. During the monster dreams while still in college, there's this:

Unknown "More."
Unknown "We need more."
You "H-Huh? *snore*"
Unknown "Every opportunity. Every single one. Always devour. Always."
Unknown "Our end requires it."

Feels like a fourth wall break because I have a hard time picturing how MC becoming all powerful will mean their "end" and even if we assume that it means MC will somehow change the divine status quo in a very grand manner, using the word "end" is a bit iffy.
Add to it that the Eye tells you that you need to consume in order to achieve the heights of power.
So it makes sense.
The non corruption endings will probably deal with the Eye in some other way.

As for the level 5 trials, I have some theories, but I think the crux of the matter will be for MC to formally inherit the Evolution trait. Of course I expect the Eye to play into this somehow but at this point I really can't tell to what degree.
 

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I'm under the impression that perfectly joining with the Eye will be part of a high corruption ending. During the monster dreams while still in college, there's this:

Unknown "More."
Unknown "We need more."
You "H-Huh? *snore*"
Unknown "Every opportunity. Every single one. Always devour. Always."
Unknown "Our end requires it."

Feels like a fourth wall break because I have a hard time picturing how MC becoming all powerful will mean their "end" and even if we assume that it means MC will somehow change the divine status quo in a very grand manner, using the word "end" is a bit iffy.
Add to it that the Eye tells you that you need to consume in order to achieve the heights of power.
So it makes sense.
The non corruption endings will probably deal with the Eye in some other way.

As for the level 5 trials, I have some theories, but I think the crux of the matter will be for MC to formally inherit the Evolution trait. Of course I expect the Eye to play into this somehow but at this point I really can't tell to what degree.
During Evolution 3 when it asks if you accept its proposal it tells you that it wants you to eat some people...so it might not necessarily require max corruption or very high corruption but eating people is its thing...you can probably still avoid a ton of corruption by using the helmet, etc. You might even be able to eat everyone you can and still remain under 30 I think and I don't think you have to eat the corpse of the monster stalking Angelina either. We'll have to see how it plays out when we do get to the end game.
 

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I wonder if SH2 will continue with the same MC...probably not if I had to guess because there would be too many variables to account for including end game, which SH will likely have a few different endings. For sequel I imagine probably unrelated story with different cast of characters with maybe small cameos.

But I mean I don't see how this game could end before MC reaches 5th evolution and given how long it took to get just from 3rd until now with 2 evolutions to go and likely several massive boss fights including the 5th evolution trials...I don't see how that can all be wrapped up before the end of this year when 1.0 is supposed to launch.
Na no need to worry about that SH 2 will be the same mc and the cast because WW already Stated multiple characters of ours still not getting their arcs Michael, Tiffany,Emily and even Ella has a lot of content left as he said in his stream.So simply saying these are only the characters arcs left apart from these multiple other things are left as well.Superhuman 2 will be about mc maybe the biggest difference would be some Big timeskip he wants to do.
 

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During Evolution 3 when it asks if you accept its proposal it tells you that it wants you to eat some people...so it might not necessarily require max corruption or very high corruption but eating people is its thing...you can probably still avoid a ton of corruption by using the helmet, etc. You might even be able to eat everyone you can and still remain under 30 I think and I don't think you have to eat the corpse of the monster stalking Angelina either. We'll have to see how it plays out when we do get to the end game.
This is fair, although keep in mind that the consumption thing hasn't been explored fully. For example during the 2nd evolution, Memory tells MC to consume Alice. If even a main LI is a potential consumption target, then you can see how it can ramp up and the difficulties in maintaining a playthrough that keeps all options open.

I'm in the process of making a guide that maximizes power and consumes all the necessary targets without getting past the 30 corruption limit. I'm not sure if it's going to be sustainable in the future, but it may yield some interesting results.
 
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