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It would be kind of weird to save the monster version when the clone is pretty much fully Deryl. Unless it's harmful to his clone, I'm most likely going to eat him.
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Outside of a Dead End, I don't think we're going to have much choice about joining HERO. Even if we could escape from them, between Deus' foresight and Nicoletta's teleportation, we'd be right back where we started in a heartbeat. So long as they're working together.
I doubt Deus will help us evade HERO either. If the MC remaining free was in his interest, he probably wouldn't have told Nicoletta where to find us. The only real option for escape is if someone or something takes out either of those two.
Ella might be able to do it, but pulling us out of danger hasn't exactly been her style. Besides, keeping HERO distracted gives Monster-Deryl more time to finish whatever she's had him working on. Then, there's the leak itself. Let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time Ella revealed our identity or made one of her students a fugitive from HERO. She has form.
More than that, I think there's already been plenty of hints that joining HERO was always the plan. Why do you think the MC's father sent him to a college built on top of a HERO Institute? Picked a course for spy-games on top of a secret society of superhumans. Even blackmailed the Dean to get him in. Maybe those were just coincidences? So many of those around dear old Dad.
I doubt Deus will help us evade HERO either. If the MC remaining free was in his interest, he probably wouldn't have told Nicoletta where to find us. The only real option for escape is if someone or something takes out either of those two.
Ella might be able to do it, but pulling us out of danger hasn't exactly been her style. Besides, keeping HERO distracted gives Monster-Deryl more time to finish whatever she's had him working on. Then, there's the leak itself. Let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time Ella revealed our identity or made one of her students a fugitive from HERO. She has form.
More than that, I think there's already been plenty of hints that joining HERO was always the plan. Why do you think the MC's father sent him to a college built on top of a HERO Institute? Picked a course for spy-games on top of a secret society of superhumans. Even blackmailed the Dean to get him in. Maybe those were just coincidences? So many of those around dear old Dad.
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Well when you Evolve, it seems during that first time period you get a boost. I thought it was just for the MC due to the Numbered speaking with him, but if you notice almost every character has a surge in their power right after achieving evolution, though it seems to die down after the fact. Examples being MC fight with Klaus (we owned him, and have never really looked the same since), Clark's Partner (forgot her name because it's 3am, but she summoned an enormous fucking sword out the ass right off the bat, no training necessary), and of course Ella (who upon fighting two Lvl 5s escaped right after evolving, when she should be in the same level and outmatched in a 2 v 1, especially considering they know some of her tricks AND she was helping Jake get out too, quite the feat). So while a 3rd Evolution wouldn't help us escape in a prolonged fight, it might just be the split moment variable we need to escape.
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Yes and no, that's how I feel about most of your points at least.
1. H.E.R.O: It's true, there's not much of a choice to avoid H.E.R.O, but your missing a big point. It's mentioned that it's only a matter of time before Superhumans are identified and added to H.E.R.O's ranks. But they are still working things out. Dexter even mentions with the release of the MC's identity reveal, they'll have to push back their time table, which we know is in reference to their debut to the public. I don't think they have the time to worry about us, which means someone is influencinv our capture from the inside. My guess is Deus, which brings me to the next point.
2. Escape: It's possible like you were says, from an outside source, but that source isn't going to take out Deus or Nicolette, too strong, and too end game. It would most likely be Ella's pets, either Valravan or someone else, but NOT Goliath (she mentions it's not time yet, definitely endgame), and NOT herself (she's not that nice). As you mentioned, Deus wouldn't free us, he probably already knows how it'll all play out, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even know we even got to H.E.R.O in the first place.
3. The Leak: Ella didn't do it, calling it now, her MO is ALL about subtlety, imagine if our UNDYING LOYALTY is tested and we reveal everything we know about Ella. Publicity is not in the cards for her, she wouldn't leak us. I honestly don't know who, but I have a gut feeling it could be Deus for whatever plan he's concocting. There's literally only a hand full of people who know who we are, not even CLARK or any of his subordinates that we know could identify us at the College face to face on serval occasions, so I doubt that it's someone we haven't seen yet. Deus is the only variable that has shown to know more than meets the eye, and work for his own agenda despite affiliation (i.e helping Valravan, Dexter mentioning he's not Zack and will be the death of Xanthe, or something along those lines). Tiffany wouldn't, we are her only ally outside of her Father's influence. And Ella is, Ella, despite what she does and says; I trust her more than I do Deus. Deryl no, nothing has indicated that, and Jake is a variable that Weird World will cameo at endgame in my opinion, water under the bridge, if you even let him live.
4. H.E.R.O Foreshadowing: You're looking way too deep into it bud, this is a porn game, not Attack on Titan, our dad isn't Keith Shadis (unimportant character foreshadowing). The MC's Dad is more of an informant if anything than some criminal mastermind who planned to send his son to a next big thing superhuman college. Let's look at the facts:
A. He picked the College because it's the best in the Sector, if not the world in cutting edge research. It's a prestigious place, in case you haven't noticed, EVERYONE wants to get in whether they know about Superhumans or not.
B. The spy course isn't to spy on the Superhuman research, perhaps it's because that's all our Dad ever does, stick his nose where it doesn't belong. And we know Blackmailing the Dean was kind of just for shits and giggles for his own ego, the Dad even mentions he loves getting information on people to use it against them, and there was no way we were getting in a prestigious college by normal means.
C. The mysterious job is just that, a mysterious job because it's SHADY and probably ILLEGAL. He knows people like his friend Jeff (the investigator you mention) loves to get info on him to use against him. If I were up to no good, telling everyone about it would be the LAST thing I'd do. But he also has flaws, because if he was as smart as you seem to make him out to be; he wouldn't have brought us along to spy on his friemisis (Jeff).
D. Knowing about the Monsters is probably all true, no arguments there, our Mother was indeed probably kiled by said Monster and we got our scars from it, and arrived at the same hospital. (Again though, this is Sector 1, the top of the top, everything about it is shady and has their hand deep in the cookie jar of Superhumans as far as companys or businesses go).
E. Yes Dexter trusts our Dad based on the conversation, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as that. The MC mentions a strong grip, most strong grips can psychologically be placed as establishing dominance, i think the last sentence to the MC is more of a warning rather than a friendly gesture. This IS one of if not the most powerful man, you think he'd stupe so low as to pretend to trust OUR Dad? (Blackmail is his middle fuckin name for God's sake). But like I said, I think our Dad was an informat for one of the first Monster cases, not some insider mastermind. And as to why he'd share classified information with us, again, this isn't someone you just stab in the back, he knows it, we know it. He's powerful, hell he's not even phased by knowing the fact that his daughter wants to kill him. He doesn't need to hide government information.
F. Lol no, our Dad isn't fucking Zack. In fact, I'd put money on the two being totally unrelated to some extent. It's one of two options in my opinion. 1, Zack is just a super OP Superhuman, and one of the first of his kind and fought something ridiculous, and got injured for it. And our Dad got injufrom trying to defend us and our Mother from the Monster that attacked us. Or 2. it's semi related, and the monster that attacked us and killed our Mother was one of the Numbered, which explains why Zack got his ass kicked, more that's the reason we were selected by 2 of the Numbered, it would also explain our Dad knowing Dexter, because he was kept on the hush hush as an insider (hence the warning I mentioned earlier). And even IF they were the same person (which they aren't), they can't be because you have to be a certain level of fucking stupid, to one of if not your most reliable INJURED Agent, not be in your sight at all times, let alone having to sneak around against a private investigator (Jeff), who seems to know nothing about Superhumans in the first place.
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Knowing for an adult game where the story would be the last thing we were discussing would be more like who would be the next girl that mc would fuck with the powers he gained.
Totally different I like it just to show that the story is amazing and incredibly written and each theory that appears adds a unique touch to the way of looking at the story and the characters.
I love this game
Totally different I like it just to show that the story is amazing and incredibly written and each theory that appears adds a unique touch to the way of looking at the story and the characters.
I love this game
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Slight correction here. Ella at lvl 5 never fought Alexis and Clark at lvl 5. She has only fought them at lvl 4 in both fights. She reached lvl 5 after leaving Hero with Jake and killed a lvl 3 Hero member.
That also reminded me of what I was forgetting during there first fight at the park. They couldn't beat Ella at lvl 4 until they used a serum to evolve. That evolution boost must've been what I overlooked and why they could temporarily overpower her at that point.
Also, yeah that's what I mean't by Evolution Boost. It seems to only be temporary and allows them to operate at a sort of peak lvl performance, with a burst of energy. I do feel that the MC's may have been partially fueled by his monster some. Not all the way of course but a bit.
I'm pretty sure everyone knows the MC's dad is involved with Hero or more specially M-Corp in some capacity. I mean, Tiffany's Dad said he was looking forward to meeting him and he already knew the MC's Dad. Some of us even think the dad is the one who purposely leaked the MC's identity so he would have no choice but to take things seriously. As for the MC joining Hero, most people thought that would be the case early on, eventually, as well.
As for the Deus thing, he only works for the benefit of the future he saw. It is entirely reasonable that he would definitely help the MC, if it was required. As Hero pointed out, Deus is the reason that stuff isn't happening as it supposed to in the timeline they saw and it involved the MC, who he let go when he first infiltrated Hero base. I don't deny that Nico could found and capture the MC, if he escaped. I'm just saying that if Deus wants the MC to escape, he'll allow it.
Lastly, on the Zack = Dad thing. I don't think that's the case personally. Then again, I originally used to think the Dead End Monster that killed the 4th was actually Zack. At this point, Zack has been a complete mystery and it's anyone's guess.
I'm kind of wondering what is going on with Angelina. I know shes a side character but all these side interactions really help flesh out the story. MC sent her to HERO to get help. I wonder if they could help her, and he meets her there. Kind of a "friendly face" situation(light scenario). Maybe they could only elevate the symptoms and shes basically stuck there for treatment (neutral scenario). Or maybe they couldnt really help her, and just made use of her. The bat thing seemed to get energy from what it did to her, so maybe they hooked her up to machines to take advantage of that in a similar way. (dark scenario)
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I honestly just really don't think the Dad knows about H.E.R.O. Let alone is as smart as everyone seems to give him credit for. I think he's just an informant, he grabs whatever information he can get his hands on and has a lot of connections. Which we know isn't how we got into the college in the first place, it was blackmail. He doesn't strike me as a criminal mastermind at ALL just because a few key figures know him. Dexter is rich, he knows probably everyone of interest. Tiffany is his daughter, she too has shown to have influence second only to her father (plus she has daddy issues, of course she'd be interested in meeting her partner's shady Dad). Again, this is the same Goddamned Dad who spies on Jeff, who's shown to know next to nothing about anything, minus surface level dealings like with Klaus. I believe he's seen a Monster, but I have no doubt he knows next to nothing if anything about H.E.R.O. And he sure as shit didn't leak the info about us, my money is on Deus to keep fucking up the time table, so far he's the most unpredictable character that we know the least about in a serious format. I feel the Dad, and the plot has shown that the Dad is more of a comical side character. He's probably here to give us exposition on our Mother and perhaps why two of the Numbered are interested in us. At MOST he knew about the start of H.E.R.O, but I have no doubt he knows nothing about it now, let alone is involved.
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? Tiffany doesn't know about our dad. I was only referring to her dad who seems to know a lot about our father and was eager to meet the MC. It wouldn't even be that big of a stretch since her father runs the biggest pharmaceutical company in the sector and most likely owned the high tech clinic the MC was sent to after the Kenny fight. The one his father purposely brought him to when he was unconscious.
Thinking the MC's dad is mostly in the dark and only "just" a shady blackmailer is a pretty weird hill to stand on. As for everything else, we shall see. Also, Deus didn't leak, according to Xanthe. He definitely knows who did though and could've stopped it if he wanted.
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I'm not doubting that they don't know each other, I'm doubting that he's anyone other than Dad. Again, I'm sure he knows about Monsters far before most people, and I think he'll deliver a lore drop to the MC about our Mother and the attack, but he's not affiliated with H.E.R.O no doubt in my mind. And ya, I see that a lot, he did indeed bring us to the largest high tech Dexter owned pharmaceutical company in the Sector. Because that's just it, it's the largest pharmaceutical company in the Sector. Name me a place in the Sector that isn't either owned or under the influence of Dexter or any other shadey people that know about Superhumans in the Sector. Our Dad always provides the best due to his connections, not because he's in league with the big shots or is some secret agent. If our Dad knew as much as everyone claims, and is skilled enough or knows people that could help us, he wouldn't have let the whole Klaus threat go on, even to go as far as to break into our own house. Or the Gaent that kills us at the Frat Party, or let us get arrested by Jake, or even leaked out safety to before the BIGGEST TARGET IN THE WORLD. All of these events everyone "in the know" knew about. So why would a Dad who brought us to the biggest and best medical center even go through the hastle if he could've just prevented or influenced a prevention of the event that got us there in the first place.
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We shall see... The update is potentially coming in about 2 to 3 weeks time(for public at least).
This...is a lot more of a response than I was expecting.
Check the number or letter of the point I'm responding in the spoiler. I'm trying to keep this...contained.
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It didn't take Ella a decade or even close to reach lvl 5. She's only been a Superhuman since she was around 15. She's 21 now(I think) and depending on when she actually hit lvl 4, it actually would've took her even less time.
As for Ella wanting us to join hero, I don't personally think that played into her plans at all(I mostly think it plays into Deus's). At least not the way it happened. Charlie's Geass aside, since it was probably used for this type of possibility, I don't see how Ella's going to benefit, since it works both ways. There's a decent chance he'll side with Hero and reveal everything instead. Even with Charlie's ability, it'll also become useless once the MC becomes strong enough to resist the effect.
As for the Deus and Nico thing, I don't think they'll be killed at all(I'm not even sure where this thought came from as I never suggested it). Nico especially since she's one of the most valuable assets they have at Hero and is most likely heavily protected. With her abilities, she'll be hard to kill or even capture. She's only surpassed by Deus and Zack(since he also seems to have some form of farsight/future seeing power), in terms of importance.
Overall, I don't necassarily disagree with what you're saying, in reference to Deus. I just mostly see him being motivated by his own objective the most and the MC is a big part of it, so far. I've even said in the past that I wouldn't be shocked if the reason he allowed the MC's identity to be revealed was just so the MC could be brought closer for the next part of what he saw and to get him away from Ella's control.
That's about it. I agree with some of what you said, that wasn't directed towards me. I also disagree with some other things but that's perfectly fine. I actually have been getting the itch to play again but I'm holding back until the update. We only have a few weeks left so I'm fighting the urge. I should stop reading the thread too since it just makes me want to dive back in more.
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Get in, get intel on your enemy by pretending to comply, get out. That's not above those.
Or maybe WW has a relatively clear idea of where they're gonna take the story after that. That's also a posibility.
What if the clone turns out to not be permanent ? He's started getting how to use his powers, but what if, since he's not the original, using them drains his autonomy and starts slowly killing him ? That's a possible plot point as well. We weren't told the clone was a perfect replica of a superhuman, did we ?
And I'll agree that the MC's dad isn't just some low life blackmailer. The guy pulled string to get his kid to be trained and educated to be like him. The guy has ulterior motives, connections, intel, and is definitely hidding more shit.
Also don't forget we still don't know what happened to the MC's mom. I highly, absolutely highly, doubt that tis plotpoint will never get resolved. It's far too big to stay a little background mention. And there is clearly something the dad knows and is hiding, there. The guy is so fucking suspicious... Half the time he seems clueless, but the reste he clearly knows more than he lets on.
I bet he knows more about superhumans and monster than we think. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about his son. You seriously think he wouldn't be suspicious about his kid suddenly doubly in size and mass ? Come on now.
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I haven't seen any of the posts but the dev is very consistent so it should come out on the last sunday of the month(Nov 27th). I believe the last couple of updates always dropped on a sunday towards the end of the 2nd month. For future reference, the dev always releases every update around 1 month and a half to 2 months, so far. So every 50-70 days, unless something unexpected happens(general ballpark).
Basically the update comes to supporters around 12 days from now, maybe. For public it releases a week to 10 days after so about December 4th to 7th earliest. This is a total guess by the way so don't take it as factual. This is just me following the usual pattern they've stuck with for a while now.
Developer planning to add major changes or something like that??
I thinking about a fresh gameplay.
Completed the game as of now. But i missed the scenes where mc threatening jake at party (option wasn't there).
Any other scenes added ??
I thinking about a fresh gameplay.
Completed the game as of now. But i missed the scenes where mc threatening jake at party (option wasn't there).
Any other scenes added ??
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i dont seem to remember the MC threatening anyone at any party, i know you can Threaten Jake while you're in prison, & again when you Raid the Prime Ministers office but other than that the MC is pretty Civil to Jakeif not downright Friendly,
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They're probably referring to the scene after the Kenny fight when the group went back to the dorm. Jake makes Liz and Amber take their tops off. You had to have like 10 or 11 Power Points to resist Jake's power there or he'll tell you to leave.
A lot of people didn't get that scene back then because you had to get the max amount allowed at that time by playing a certain way. I believe the dev either lower the points required or gave more points for it to be obtained easier.
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Weirdworld relaxed the requirement, so you need less points to see that scene