SquallofNight

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NGL Danica and Agaelwolf (i prob butchered it) were making me consider swapping sides fr
Why swap sides when you can just bring them up to our side? Dani's in HERO and finally got some love (FMC too), and at this point Aglaecwif has baby fever (quite literally in fact). All thats left is to do it in real life (outside the dream fuckery), and we got them.

Also, Danica doesn't have many that like her, but she got a solid following i'd say (hell, i've spared her more times than Jake).
 

jak1165

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None of the lore makes a damn bit of sense to me. Order? Body? The 3rd? None if it ever has. Literally makes my eyes glaze over

I can't be the only one, right?
 

JmTrad

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Jun 2, 2018
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Finished. My head hurts by so many info and i sweat cold because of the ending. I don't care if you like her or not, i don't want to lose anyone.

Hmm, we've got another power/skill choice.

You can either buy the voidstone in the shop which allows you to trade your spine to Humanity for 5 skill, or buy the power drink to get 30 power.
you could buy the energy waaaay earlier. thank god i did.

I doubt Liz will be dead-dead, but if she was I have no idea how MC would be convinced into joining SIN (assuming he has the power to make the choice).
  • Even if they both lived then it was extraneous torture by Tanos, which I doubt MC would look on kindly.
Not even Ella (the doll at least) likes the idea of Thanos hanging around SIN, she asked why the fuck he's here, and we found out later he was bought by Eisheth after Ella "died"

Some parts have me believing WW cooked a bit too much, too soon. While other things got clarified on, or expanded beyond what was previously known. The lore was great, but also too expansive when paired with the revelation of some of the cosmology. It felt like we skipped a few steps somewhere. That's just my initial feelings.
Well, Syla said 1 night for each trip is too fast, so we got some answers but we don't really fully understand them and feel like we skipped some things, and she said to fully absorve and understand everything would take a century or something

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The scars are inverted too so the eyes are tecnically in the right place?
 
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SquallofNight

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None of the lore makes a damn bit of sense to me. Order? Body? The 3rd? None if it ever has. Literally makes my eyes glaze over

I can't be the only one, right?
We don't have everything, but we have a good idea. If you have any doubts, just ask. I'm not the best, but i'll answer what i can if you want.
 

Katsuki45

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None of the lore makes a damn bit of sense to me. Order? Body? The 3rd? None if it ever has. Literally makes my eyes glaze over

I can't be the only one, right?
You're not the only one, but looking on this thread there's many things that we end passing by about the lore as we play through that has already be explained. And some things are still a mystery to all of us too!!

1st Apostle = The Authority
2nd Apostle = The Power
3rd Apostle = The Body
4th Apostle = The Memory
5th Apostle = The Eternal/Time
6th Apostle = The Ether/Space
7th Apostle = The Darkness
8th Apostle = The Light
9th Apostle = The Truth
10th Apostle = The Fantasy
11th Apostle = Destruction
12th Apostle = Creation

Origins:

Authority + Power = Order
Body + Memory = Evolution
Time + Ether = Infinity

Light + Darkness = Soul
Truth + Fantasy = Paradox
Creation + Destruction = Chaos

What I know is this (Someone correct me if i'm wrong) :
Basically there's God, he split himself in the Twin Outer Gods ( because of this there's the whole thing about twins), them each twin give birth to 3 Origins and each Origin give birth to another pair of twins, which are the 12 apostles!
 

Dipasimaan

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None of the lore makes a damn bit of sense to me. Order? Body? The 3rd? None if it ever has. Literally makes my eyes glaze over

I can't be the only one, right?
It can be confusing but if you have some doubts or you just want some clearance on little things go on the awesome wiki made by the archivists of this forum
 

DrakoGhoul

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What I know is this (Someone correct me if i'm wrong) :
Basically there's God, he split himself in the Twin Outer Gods ( because of this there's the whole thing about twins), them each twin give birth to 3 Origins and each Origin give birth to another pair of twins, which are the 12 apostles!
After this update, we're not sure how the hierarchy works anymore. Not even the Lord of Dark is as impressive as previously believed. Especially since it's undeniable now that it's the 7th and it hasn't actually killed any Apostle beyond their avatars that appeared on earth.
 

TerminusPrime

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I think it's been missed that when the MC rushes into Tanos' lab it says. "There's someone ahead of me. Filled with anger. Filled with power. And something else too...."
That doesn't really seem to match with Cole. He's the immediate person the MC sees, but he doesn't seem to be filled with anger.
It's possible Cole is always angry, but the something else too implies there is more going on than is apparent.

Then as the MC enters the room where Amber and Liz were at it makes the noise that happens when powers are being used and says "My brain splits open. I feel dizzy. Is it the memories? The drugs I was being fed? I feel sick. Really sick. It takes all I have to not bend over and vomit everything inside me out."
That's awfully suspicious timing for it to be the memories or drugs they put in him to be acting up again. It seems like he's being affected by a power.
We haven't found out what the Strength Eater's power does, but that seems to fit what it could feel like for somebody that's having their strength eaten.
 

JenusKudo

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Bro i see some of you guys wants to genderbender cole but that will be a reward for him to be honest and the mc is beyond pissed at this point a revenge driven mc is not gonna stop anytime soon even if they survive the fact that they were killed is still there after the face and growl i see mc drag cole across hex dimension making sure he suffers a lot then kill and devour him and in his head he will be stripped of his power and have kenny (if you devour him) and bailey beat the shit out of him everyday into eternity
Did something new happened? I devoured kenny as well but he never manifest himself
 

TheOneZR

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I think it's been missed that when the MC rushes into Tanos' lab it says. "There's someone ahead of me. Filled with anger. Filled with power. And something else too...."
That doesn't really seem to match with Cole. He's the immediate person the MC sees, but he doesn't seem to be filled with anger.
It's possible Cole is always angry, but the something else too implies there is more going on than is apparent.

Then as the MC enters the room where Amber and Liz were at it makes the noise that happens when powers are being used and says "My brain splits open. I feel dizzy. Is it the memories? The drugs I was being fed? I feel sick. Really sick. It takes all I have to not bend over and vomit everything inside me out."
That's awfully suspicious timing for it to be the memories or drugs they put in him to be acting up again. It seems like he's being affected by a power.
We haven't found out what the Strength Eater's power does, but that seems to fit what it could feel like for somebody that's having their strength eaten.
now that you mentioned could be the twins or could be zack maybe deus or some other creature trying to rewind time trying to keep the mc from seeing something, before the sin invasion mc says he feels something in his head like it twirls or something because of zack powers and in the end of the update mc is angry and filled with power so he felt it before seeing it but it is just my tought on it
 

DrakoGhoul

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Jul 13, 2018
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I'm a no lifer I suppose, but not very many people respond to me since I'm in the minority when it comes to voicing opinions or preferences.

Like I'm probably the only person here who think Danica is the hottest character in this game and would have ditched Alice in a heartbeat at the casino when we met her, but no one wants to talk about that haha... :HideThePain:

I'm pretty sure more than half of you all ate her brains :mad:
Nah, you might've just not been around in the earlier days. I'm also pretty sure no one simped harder for Danica than me. I was legit maybe the only one who spared her when it was unknown if she would survive or not. My posts should still be here from 3 years ago actually.
 

Ddlc

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I think it's been missed that when the MC rushes into Tanos' lab it says. "There's someone ahead of me. Filled with anger. Filled with power. And something else too...."
That doesn't really seem to match with Cole. He's the immediate person the MC sees, but he doesn't seem to be filled with anger.
It's possible Cole is always angry, but the something else too implies there is more going on than is apparent.

Then as the MC enters the room where Amber and Liz were at it makes the noise that happens when powers are being used and says "My brain splits open. I feel dizzy. Is it the memories? The drugs I was being fed? I feel sick. Really sick. It takes all I have to not bend over and vomit everything inside me out."
That's awfully suspicious timing for it to be the memories or drugs they put in him to be acting up again. It seems like he's being affected by a power.
We haven't found out what the Strength Eater's power does, but that seems to fit what it could feel like for somebody that's having their strength eaten.
Ok so trying to get everything about the scene
The mc enters the room and it's normal, then it gets red and we hear a heartbeat, his own heart jumps crashing against his ribcage the moment he enters, the room is cold like he just entered a freezer.
There is someone in the room filled with anger and power "and something else too"
Mc smashes the room open and Cole is backwards, we hear a heartbeat again, the red returns to the room and we hear the sound of a power being used, the same we hear when a mind power is used, Mc seems to feel pain being affected by this power "my brain splits i feel dizzy". He wonders if it's the memories or the drugs he feels sick, very sick and almost bends and vomits.


Now some thoughts
At first i had the impression that all this was Mc's memory powers giving him a feeling that something wrong was happening, maybe acessing the memories of the girls at distance, not enough to now what was happening but at least to feel the dread. However red was never a color connected to Mc's power, we have purple and black for him but never red, the heart is his own so maybe he is just very nervous, or maybe affected by someone else's power, the place being cold doesn't make sense for being something Cole did, his power is fire.
Now there is someone in the room filled with anger and power and something else to, does this mean that the person in question is filled with those two and something else ? or that other than the person with those two things there is "something else too" meaning other person in the room ?
The power is used and Mc feels sick, i known that when Mc started using his memory abilities he used to feel sick, even vomit and almost pass out but it doens't seem like he used any power, more like he was affected by something, his brain splits and he fells dizzy, again looks a lot like how he felt after every path but did he connect to something ???
For a moment i didnt think it could be the twins since they still are lvl 1 and would not affect Mc with any harmful power easily, BUT they ARE spawns of Strenght Eaters, and if one or both of them have this "trait" they would get stronger depending on whoever is there, so affecting a lvl 3 seems reasonable.

To me what is happening is that Amber could be using her Strenght Eater ability to affect Mc and this makes him feel sick, Liz is "dead", Cole is not using any power at the moment and i don't think Mc is either, also the room seems empty. The power and anger are coming from her and the something else might be regret, despair, grief...
 

TerminusPrime

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Ok so trying to get everything about the scene
The mc enters the room and it's normal, then it gets red and we hear a heartbeat, his own heart jumps crashing against his ribcage the moment he enters, the room is cold like he just entered a freezer.
There is someone in the room filled with anger and power "and something else too"
Mc smashes the room open and Cole is backwards, we hear a heartbeat again, the red returns to the room and we hear the sound of a power being used, the same we hear when a mind power is used, Mc seems to feel pain being affected by this power "my brain splits i feel dizzy". He wonders if it's the memories or the drugs he feels sick, very sick and almost bends and vomits.


Now some thoughts
At first i had the impression that all this was Mc's memory powers giving him a feeling that something wrong was happening, maybe acessing the memories of the girls at distance, not enough to now what was happening but at least to feel the dread. However red was never a color connected to Mc's power, we have purple and black for him but never red, the heart is his own so maybe he is just very nervous, or maybe affected by someone else's power, the place being cold doesn't make sense for being something Cole did, his power is fire.
Now there is someone in the room filled with anger and power and something else to, does this mean that the person in question is filled with those two and something else ? or that other than the person with those two things there is "something else too" meaning other person in the room ?
The power is used and Mc feels sick, i known that when Mc started using his memory abilities he used to feel sick, even vomit and almost pass out but it doens't seem like he used any power, more like he was affected by something, his brain splits and he fells dizzy, again looks a lot like how he felt after every path but did he connect to something ???
For a moment i didnt think it could be the twins since they still are lvl 1 and would not affect Mc with any harmful power easily, BUT they ARE spawns of Strenght Eaters, and if one or both of them have this "trait" they would get stronger depending on whoever is there, so affecting a lvl 3 seems reasonable.

To me what is happening is that Amber could be using her Strenght Eater ability to affect Mc and this makes him feel sick, Liz is "dead", Cole is not using any power at the moment and i don't think Mc is either, also the room seems empty. The power and anger are coming from her and the something else might be regret, despair, grief...

We don't really have enough information to do more than speculate. There is just more going on there than is initially apparent.

It's also cold in that room because it's being used to store dead bodies that Tanos is experimenting on. It's literally as cold as a meat locker because Tanos doesn't want his experiments to rot when he's not around.
 
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