VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[DrakoGhoul]

One more point for Henri, Malik and Bernhardt. It might not be that "they're the strongest because they evolved first ad level 5s have a faster growth rate." It might be reversing cause and effect. Like... "they're level 5 because they're the strongest, and crazy enough to go above and beyond."

Henri seems to be a reality warper, and I'd guess literally used his power to evolve himself.

Bernhardt is Absolutely Power obsessed, to the point he makes Ella look like Jake, while Malik probably watched Bernhardt ad realized "Someone needs to be able to kill my friend Bernhardt if he goes apeshit, and it should probably be me considering Future sight doesn't let us inherently change the future, he can turn invisible so Nyx can't see him, and no number of clones could stop him if he turned into a tornado or something."

Out of Left Field side note, I think Lucius is stronger than You all assume (Having absolutely no idea if any of you are underestimating Clone Boy, I just know that I don't respect him, and am hedging my bets against bias of him being goofy.) Gog Agog, The Worm from Kill Six Billion Demons kind of shows what "duplication" can do as a power in their fight against Jagganoth. Building constructs out of their own body and encasing a planetoid in a shell of clones, and then launching basically Kill Sat lasers made of their own flesh, all at "combat speed." No matter how strong Malik or Bernhardt is, depending on how efficient Lucius can be, They might not have The Juice to fully kill him. Meanwhile, if he can copy items (which it seems he can, considering his Outfit) he can probably represent a non-zero threat, and any non-zero number times infinity is infinity. Plus, he implies that there isn't a "main body" which is every clone haver in comics easy-made weakness. If they're all equally real, even if they share an ultimate power source, he could just have clones in every single city, making it impossible to fully get rid of him without some metaphysical stuff, or doing a genocide against all life. Not just all Humans, but all superhumans too.

Then again, compared to Bernhardt, he actually seems like a pretty chill guy, so he probably won't do any of that. Just speaking up for this dingus who IS a captain and sits at the cool kids table.

I don't think Lucius is the weakest Captain(that would be Zack, for me). It's more so that we don't know the mechanics of his Shadow Clone Jutsu. Is his clone as powerful as him or do they share their power reserves with the main Lucius and thus are as strong as how much he fuels them? Does said reserves decrease from himself if he created too many at a certain power level? His powers are kind of tricky to understand the limits of.

Seeing as he can replicate monster gear as well, it makes me wonder if his powers have an "expiration" date like the MC when stuff separates from him too long. Why wouldn't he just clone a bunch of items or even something like money to boost HERO up, if that's the case? Maybe he did already, for all we know. Or that is indeed the case and it probably requires said objects to be attached to the clone that's made with it because it would degrade over time.

Basically, Lucius is an odd ball, power wise and as a character in game. There's really no definitive position for him. At least from me. Not until we get more insight in his power.

 

[ffive]

You get 2k from the B-class if you bring Danica. It might be a bug though, because you recieve 1k twice in that route.

Yeah, i suspect this is overlooked glitch from pathing, because getting the money in two halves like that seems weird, and you only get 1k with Daryl.

 

[kingmountvic]

Heading East when given the opportunity during the infiltration, with 310+ power, and choosing option to attack Jared and Charlie. You get hexenringened to the monster world.

I get it follow your guide, thank you sir, appreciate it ;D

 

[Gtdead]

Decided to avoid the forum till I played the game due to spoilers was out (the spoiler tag is no good, messes with my willpower) .
Now that I've played,

Spoiler: Some Thoughts

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[ffive]

makes me think that all her boasting about beating rank As as level 3 is bullshit.

She can instantly teleport her target straight to space or center of the Sun. There's no coming back from that, so her being able to deal with high rank threats at lvl.3 is perfectly plausible.

 

[ItzSyther]

4) Why MC was so short when his parents are both tall.

I can answer this one: Sometimes people get fucked over by the genetic lottery. I, along with the majority of my siblings are tall with tall parents but yet my sister is barely crackin 5'1.

It's been a long time since I was last in a biology class but I'm pretty sure grandparents (the previous generation) can impact height in addition to the parents, my grandma was a short lady (idk how dafuq she ended up with 3 daughters all above 6ft but da genetic lottery favored em).

 

[Gtdead]

She can instantly teleport her target straight to space or center of the Sun. There's no coming back from that, so her being able to deal with high rank threats at lvl.3 is perfectly plausible.

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I can answer this one: Sometimes people get fucked over by the genetic lottery. I, along with the majority of my siblings are tall with tall parents but yet my sister is barely crackin 5'1.

It's been a long time since I was last in a biology class but I'm pretty sure grandparents (the previous generation) can impact height in addition to the parents, my grandma was a short lady (idk how dafuq she ended up with 3 daughters all above 6ft but da genetic lottery favored em).

Of course this is a reality, won't argue with it. But there are a lot of oddities in this scene which makes me think that there is something seriously wrong going on.

 

[ItzSyther]

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Of course this is a reality, won't argue with it. But there are a lot of oddities in this scene which makes me think that there is something seriously wrong going on with that scene.

So in regards to the spoiler, I do agree there is nothing suggesting that monsters can't survive in space but this update I believe when we are with Nico mentions that monsters other than eating humans they also eat each other so clearly they need food/energy just like a human or superhuman would so what would happen if they are stuck in space and unable to get back to Earth? Do they starve to death or get in a coma like state forever? I wanna see if that ever gets tested.

MC gets yeet'd into space in a bad end and is completely unable to get back to Earth despite using his wings and I believe ultimately he'd just die up there due to running out of energy (pretty sure Ella wayyyy earlier on mentions that running out of energy is really bad for superhumans aka death or an inability to use their powers).

And yeah there was somethin up with that scene but I had an idea...what if that memory was planted into the MC's mind? Like he mentions he forgot his mom was that dumb although I do recall his dad mentioning his mom being not so intelligent (or was that MC? can't remember it was one of em).

 

[Logan3000x]

is tiffany avoiding us or did I fuck up my playthrough?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Decided to avoid the forum till I played the game due to spoilers was out (the spoiler tag is no good, messes with my willpower) .
Now that I've played,

Spoiler: Some Thoughts

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To hit some of this.

For the SIN part, I think that's more of a Deus thing than HERO slipping there. He needed the MC to Infiltrate HERO to give him his warnings. It's also so MC and Tiffany would draw Dexter's attention and raise their worth while allowing Tiffany to become a superhuman.

For that dead end, it's curious isn't it? This isn't the first time either. As he was nuking his dimension, he didn't snatch the MC as well. Even though he was only with Alice and Deryl at that time. Then there's the fact that Cole only wanted to bring Deryl while also threatening to kill the MC. The Charlie part only made me hate her more to be honest. We still didn't get to snipe Jared's ass somehow.

You're also correct. Why the hell do all of our enemies think we're weak compared to them? It wouldn't be as bad if they didn't keep claiming Ella carried us through everything on top of it.

 

[Ddlc]

Does anyone know the requirements to finish the infiltration mission whitout being noticed ? I made it but i had to go straight to the command center, is there another way ?

 

[necromater]

is tiffany avoiding us or did I fuck up my playthrough?

She is. fuck her i'm not simp she Will come for us to ask for shit like always XD. You have to keep the facade if she changes her her ways that will be sus as fuck

 

[Gtdead]

So in regards to the spoiler, I do agree there is nothing suggesting that monsters can't survive in space but this update I believe when we are with Nico mentions that monsters other than eating humans they also eat each other so clearly they need food/energy just like a human or superhuman would so what would happen if they are stuck in space and unable to get back to Earth? Do they starve to death or get in a coma like state forever? I wanna see if that ever gets tested.

MC gets yeet'd into space in a bad end and is completely unable to get back to Earth despite using his wings and I believe ultimately he'd just die up there due to running out of energy (pretty sure Ella wayyyy earlier on mentions that running out of energy is really bad for superhumans aka death or an inability to use their powers).

And yeah there was somethin up with that scene but I had an idea...what if that memory was planted into the MC's mind? Like he mentions he forgot his mom was that dumb although I do recall his dad mentioning his mom being not so intelligent (or was that MC? can't remember it was one of em).

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[DrakoGhoul]

Does anyone know the requirements to finish the infiltration mission whitout being noticed ? I made it but i had to go straight to the command center, is there another way ?

As far as I could tell, you can visit one extra room and still complete the mission without getting noticed. This was with no killing, full stealth choices. Not sure if it matters if you kill everyone or not.

 

[ItzSyther]

I believe monsters like that wouldn't care much about atmospheric pressure and vaccum. Their bodies are way too tough for that. And I also doubt that they would care about the falling damage or getting burned while falling. They seem way too tough to even care about these things. Perhaps a minor injury at most. So unless level 3 Nico can really put them outside of the Earth's gravitic pull, they will eventually return in a fairly spectacular fashion.

I do agree with you that monsters probably wouldn't care about any of that but and this is again going off what we know: Nico's power seems to be limited to the inner solar system as she was able to pull a bit of the sun to crush down on Ella with. In the bad end she was able to yeet MC into space but it was only near Earth (maybe she didn't view the MC as a big enough threat to put anywhere else...although its clear the MC is moving away from Earth in that end not getting closer).

Now let's pretend she has the full capability to yeet a monster anywhere in the inner solar system. She could just yeet them directly into the sun and ending them there and then. This is a easy way to prevent them from getting back to Earth even if they could.

I guess this all comes down to what is the full extent of her power? Maybe she can even yeet shit outside the solar system but that is pure speculation (we only seen inner solar system shiz).

 

[Ddlc]

As far as I could tell, you can visit one extra room and still complete the mission without getting noticed. This was with no killing, full stealth choices. Not sure if it matters if you kill everyone or not.

I did it with stealth too, but i wanted at least the scene with Charlie since that thing she gets seems important to know, i will try again now, thanks man .

 

[Gtdead]

To hit some of this.

For the SIN part, I think that's more of a Deus thing than HERO slipping there. He needed the MC to Infiltrate HERO to give him his warnings. It's also so MC and Tiffany would draw Dexter's attention and raise their worth while allowing Tiffany to become a superhuman.

Yea you are right. With Deus there, everything was seemless and worked largely to MC's favor. I meant it more from a narration/atmosphere perspective. The multitude of choices, the knowledge that using powers may alert security etc. In my second playthrough I didn't get the same intense feeling, since I knew that there isn't any actual danger there (aside from attacking Jared with Charlie nearby, a level 3 fight in enemy territory would be dangerous anyway)

For that dead end, it's curious isn't it? This isn't the first time either. As he was nuking his dimension, he didn't snatch the MC as well. Even though he was only with Alice and Deryl at that time. Then there's the fact that Cole only wanted to bring Deryl while also threatening to kill the MC. The Charlie part only made me hate her more to be honest. We still didn't get to snipe Jared's ass somehow.

You raise a good point, I never really thought about it due to the scale of Hexenringe's action, but yes, MC is in grave and asymmetric danger every time he deals with Ella's faction.

This time it was pretty much unwarranted. Hexenringe actively targeted the MC while Charlie and Jared were safe and out of reach. I get that Ella's faction wants to protect Jared because they want the stones, but their hostility towards MC is obvious now.

You're also correct. Why the hell do all of our enemies think we're weak compared to them? It wouldn't be as bad if they didn't keep claiming Ella carried us through everything on top of it.

It's truly one of the great mysteries. Ella doesn't keep it a secret that MC is her chosen. Cole seems to shit his pants when he hears about "mother's opinion". He clearly knows who the MC refers to.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I do agree with you that monsters probably wouldn't care about any of that but and this is again going off what we know: Nico's power seems to be limited to the inner solar system as she was able to pull a bit of the sun to crush down on Ella with. In the bad end she was able to yeet MC into space but it was only near Earth (maybe she didn't view the MC as a big enough threat to put anywhere else...although its clear the MC is moving away from Earth in that end not getting closer).

Now let's pretend she has the full capability to yeet a monster anywhere in the inner solar system. She could just yeet them directly into the sun and ending them there and then. This is a easy way to prevent them from getting back to Earth even if they could.

I guess this all comes down to what is the full extent of her power? Maybe she can even yeet shit outside the solar system but that is pure speculation (we only seen inner solar system shiz).

I don't think this is necessarily true. Nico has said she can teleport to Hex's dimension by herself. She claims if MC was sent off to a too far away dimension by Hex, even she might not be able to bring him back. Yet this update, they think Nico can save the MC from Hex's hosted dimension, if he got stuck.

This could just mean she can "hijack" Hex's Dimension for a teleport or that Hex dimension is operating in the same space but at a different phase, frequency or whatever you would call it. Basically, range isn't important, just access.

We still haven't seen her full power yet with all of her six rings in use. With 4(or 5?) Rings, she opened a rift to the Sun's core. Maybe using all 6 would allow her greater distance at the price of being extremely vulnerable?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Spoiler: Michael & Tiffany evolution

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For the 1st bit there. It doesn't exactly put to bed him being inferior as that wasn't what was said in the first place. When we, or I, said Michael may not get the full Power Trait, it's that it wouldn't fully develop. As I've said, it wasn't like Michael wouldn't be powerful, he's still an Apostle spawn after all. It's that he wouldn't get the full Power trait because of his compatibility possibly being low. That's what I was referring to with those comments.

The real important thing about that scene was the ramifications about one of them missing during that whole thing. Also the fact that Nyx expected us to see it before sending us out there. Which is what made that scene sus for me. Like she might know we're also a spawn of one as well and is trying to bait them to react since another one is present. At least that's what I think about it.

 

[Gtdead]

For the 1st bit there. It doesn't exactly put to bed him being inferior as that wasn't what was said in the first place. When we, or I, said Michael may not get the full Power Trait, it's that it wouldn't fully develop. As I've said, it wasn't like Michael wouldn't be powerful, he's still an Apostle spawn after all. It's that he wouldn't get the full Power trait because of his compatibility possibly being low. That's what I was referring to with those comments.

The real important thing about that scene was the ramifications about one of them missing during that whole thing. Also the fact that Nyx expected us to see it before sending us out there. Which is what made that scene sus for me. Like she might know we're also a spawn of one as well and is trying to bait them to react since another one is present. At least that's what I think about it.

Well it kinda depends on what you consider as "full trait". MC for example has the full body trait. Whatever Ella can do, he can also do. The difference is that MC has to do it in a more instinctual manner while Ella has way better control right of the bat. However they both can change molecular structure so the "depth" of their ability is pretty much the same.

In Michael's case, the abilities we can observe from the 2nd are
1) Matter to energy conversion (absorbed the Leigong)
2) Energy transformation (got lightning, outputted some form or radiation)
3) Radiation based attacks
4) The glow that turned night into day.
5) Energy to matter conversion (probably what happened when it created it's arms)

Michael could already do the first 4 and during his evolution he also did the 5th, by increasing the size of his muscles. So I don't think there is any indication he didn't get the full trait.

He also did well against Tif, who is supposed to have compatibility with the 8th so he doesn't seem to lack for power in comparison.

As for Nyx, that's a smart connection. Nyx is savvy and tricksy, although personally I didn't get the same vibe, due to how she dismissed it once MC answered negatively. The funny part is that eventually MC noticed it and Nyx probably missed it. The way the narration goes, it's also possible that MC noticed a presense in Tiffany that Nyx missed, but Michael's was stronger.