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I might be retarded but I thought the eye was his monster side that his mother like sealed up when making him. Hence why it says I am you .
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The Eye has had the misfortune of being near some freakishly powerful anomalies whenever it has manifested so far. Deus can fuck with the timestream to attack the Eye pre-manifestation and while it is tremendously powerful, higher than a peak lvl 5 spawn proven by the Eye effortlessly bitchslapping Alexis out of the dimension during BoD, the trio of Malik, Bernhardt and especially Henri are directly stated to be Godlike in their strength. So powerful, that the Apostoles would need to bring their full might to bear against him specifically. All that misfortune is compounded by the fact that MC is still incomplete himself and not at his peak either, which has directly lead to the Eye being born in an immature, incomplete form.
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Quick question, if someone knows and wants to answer, are there sex scenes of the MC transforming into FMC and having sex with the male cast (Michael/Deryl/etc)? Gonna start now after over a year from day 1, just wanted to know if such a scene exists by now.
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Nah. WW has said the MC is never gonna have an H scene with Michael or Deryl.
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Neat tbh, im not against shapeshifter charas having it bot ways(quite the opposite), but with how the mc relationship is build with those two, would be weird in a non-hot way
well, i mean the mc will most likely get a chance to kill and absorb them down the road. Would be strange to think "wouldnt fuck but would kill, eat and absorb them and get all their memories". I just like degeneracy, I mean MC was fucking a zombie.
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I don't think it was made inside the MC, it claims to exist within all monsters and just have reached its furthest growth within him. But I do agree that it not being the original Arbiter but just something like it is possible. The MC senses that the Eye is a "a blasphemous, traitorous fragment". I can see the Apostles finding the Arbiters as blasphemous, since they don't want the prior pantheon of gods to be acknowledged. But traitorous? That suggests that the Eye's very existence is somehow a betrayal of the Apostles, and that wouldn't be the case for an Arbiter. I think it was something created in defiance of the Apostles, not something that existed before them.
I have one theory that is based on only a single data point, and therefore not a good theory, but it feels compelling to me. If you read the memories of the colossi corpse in the lava zone, you learn that in the distant past a woman who remembered forbidden knowledge conspired with a shapeshifter who was chosen to speak for the gods, in order to do something that would betray the Apostles. Memory and Body, working together on a blasphemy. What if they're responsible for the Eye? Whether intentionally, or as a consequence of some other goal.
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Yeh, in a way eating them is even more "intimate", but fucking them feel a bit weird(from a meta perspective), and i dont even know if they would be down for it, as much of a horndog Deryl is, i dont see him fucking the femc, and Michael is, well himself
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He said so on stream. I can't find which one exactly but if you check Deryls wiki page on the triva section it says that.
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To maybe get your hopes up WW has says that he lies and gives out false info on stream sometimes so take this with a grain of salt.
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MC is nothing but a selfish guy! Not even to help his friends get out of their drought!
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The girl he mentions is Ella, the Eye says I believe in the first bad end that he needs to ''find their chosen'', with ''their'' meaning the chosen of the 3rd and 4th Apostle aka Ella. And he does find her when he dominates Goliath, and then get's teleported by Nico, and afterward just before Lochan shows he tried to locate his way back to her in Hexenringe's dimension.
He also mentions Ella right before Bernhardt destroys him, so yeah the ''girl'' is likely Ella.
And the ''Too Strong Too Soon'' bad end has nothing to do with the Eye. That end is just Ella realizing the Mc is the perfect candidate to become an avatar for the 4th ( and/or 3rd ) given he in inherited both traits, memory and body, she tries to offer him to the 4th but is stopped by The Lord Of Dark, who apparently has a thing for cockblocking his fellow apostles from gaining avatars.
But thus far nobody in-game mentioned or even knows the existence of the Eye.
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We know that the Apostles live in a higher dimension and only occasionally manifest in our reality. As far as we know no one has seen an Arbiter since time immemorial, but we know they exist. Would not be a stretch to assume that they hang out/sleep in an even higher dimension that is normally inaccessible to anyone else and can't normally manifest at all.
Going off that I always assumed that the Eye is just a fragment of an Arbiter, not the real deal. It lacks memories and knowledge of what it is and needs more host power to form a proper connection to the higher dimension where only the gods reside. Needs to reconnect to its main self.
If we take the "blasphemous, traitorous fragment" line seriously then it could be because it was never meant to manifest at all. Some deranged super ritual took place that invaded the resting place of the gods and chipped a whisker off one and brought it down to earth. Traitorous because if it was done by the 3rd and 4th then they went against the wishes of other Apostles. Blasphemous because they touched a god and perhaps even went against their wishes. Whatever it is, it's not some mutation. All other monsters kneel in front of it. It's a king, a god or both.
The eye most recently here made mention of severing our connection with the Third and the Fourth. Maybe in order to develop the Evolution trait, we need to give up our Body and Memory abilities, at least temporarily.
On a secondary note, I think if we do in fact acquire the Evolution trait, it should break the current system. Like, we can expect Apostle spawn to be the best within the system, but Arbiter spawn should be beyond the system. I'm talking about "We can go as many Evolutions high as we want" sort of nutty. "I think I will evolve to Level 47 now, good luck everybody else."
On a secondary note, I think if we do in fact acquire the Evolution trait, it should break the current system. Like, we can expect Apostle spawn to be the best within the system, but Arbiter spawn should be beyond the system. I'm talking about "We can go as many Evolutions high as we want" sort of nutty. "I think I will evolve to Level 47 now, good luck everybody else."
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well maybe that girl is still out there, it could be Ella, or what I personally believe... Emily but we'll see
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That's an interesting interpretation for "traitorous" that I hadn't considered, that it's not the Chosen of the 3rd and 4th betraying them but the 3rd and 4th themselves betraying all the other Apostles. I do kind of get the sense that there's dissent among the Apostles. Even leaving aside the 7th's very obvious opposition to the others, we know that something has led to Indra killing several Chosen and that Apostles seven through twelve aren't expected to show up for the Black Moon. Maybe the 3rd and 4th went against the other Apostles, and that's why the Eye exists. I like that idea.
I believe in the first scene that we see the Eye, the Third and Fourth are standing off to the side subserviently.