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Don't know yet, but probably he'll understand emotions and things about relationships that will makes him stronger because he'll end up fighting for protecting what he loves and not just for being stronger.
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Would be kinda more fun/unusual and surprising if it would be the other way around
im honestly not sure "good" people are whats needed in this story to help humanity prevail
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Maaan this update was crazy good.
You know I was hyped for a Indra vs Malik fight, and I was confident in such a fight we'd finally see a HERO heavyweigth either fall on the back knee or atleast sweat a little, but the shit Malik pulled off in this update ? Doubt even Indra could tank that, I'm having doubts.
And on the Malik topic I believe he has the souls of his dead comrades residing in his being, that's the interpretation I made after seeing him seemingly talk to himself. Also it makes sense given Aglaeqwif's taunt calling it ''their sacrifice''.
I believe Malik's insane power somehow is connected to the sacrifices of some or all of his previous comrades, maybe through some kind of ritual or even a Xanthe experiment.
Also man, with the spotlight being stolen by Alice this update, and the absolutely insane power showcases by other monsters in this update, it really makes me excited for the next step in Mc's evolution journey, he really has to step up his game.
Again and again, it feels like we are a small fish in a big pond. If Alice hasn't already caught up with the Mc she is close, then you have the insane powers of Aos barely showed yet still terryfying to imagine, Aos could've erased the Mc and all his party in seconds anytime he wanted, and if Aos is that insane then the goal of getting revenge for the murder of Sylla against Indra seems so distant it's not even funny.
Also Ella is still the best girl in my view, her calling the Mc perfect, making it official he is her chosen ( that was obvious for a long while but it's still nice to hear it from her), and telling him not to dwell on what others might say but focus on her was oddly heartwarming.
You know I was hyped for a Indra vs Malik fight, and I was confident in such a fight we'd finally see a HERO heavyweigth either fall on the back knee or atleast sweat a little, but the shit Malik pulled off in this update ? Doubt even Indra could tank that, I'm having doubts.
And on the Malik topic I believe he has the souls of his dead comrades residing in his being, that's the interpretation I made after seeing him seemingly talk to himself. Also it makes sense given Aglaeqwif's taunt calling it ''their sacrifice''.
I believe Malik's insane power somehow is connected to the sacrifices of some or all of his previous comrades, maybe through some kind of ritual or even a Xanthe experiment.
Also man, with the spotlight being stolen by Alice this update, and the absolutely insane power showcases by other monsters in this update, it really makes me excited for the next step in Mc's evolution journey, he really has to step up his game.
Again and again, it feels like we are a small fish in a big pond. If Alice hasn't already caught up with the Mc she is close, then you have the insane powers of Aos barely showed yet still terryfying to imagine, Aos could've erased the Mc and all his party in seconds anytime he wanted, and if Aos is that insane then the goal of getting revenge for the murder of Sylla against Indra seems so distant it's not even funny.
Also Ella is still the best girl in my view, her calling the Mc perfect, making it official he is her chosen ( that was obvious for a long while but it's still nice to hear it from her), and telling him not to dwell on what others might say but focus on her was oddly heartwarming.
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Yeah, Malik is actually becoming quite the interesting character, eager to see how W.W handle him, and though, i do like your idea of him having his 'Brothers and Sisters' within him and that being the source of his power, i think is not the case, and is just Malik being schizo as a byproduct of his guilt, though again the idea of him being this sort of gestalt superhuman(since i think his fallen comrades must have been SH themselves, given how the only living person that call him 'brother' is Bernhardt) sound cool, yet unlikely, the Eye could have definitely mention something about it on the two dead ends it recognized Malik as a threat.
About Indra/Malik fighting, i'm actually more hyped about it now, since Indra would most likely incarnate the second apostle, Malik is after all an Aberrant Existence, perfect match for a zealot like Indi, not to mention Malik being compared to a Sun(and at the end of this update creating one) and the Second being refered as "Sun Eater"
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Actually instead of being the source of his power I was instead thinking that the souls within him would act as a way of keeping him from becoming an avatar of the Second ( yes I believe Malik ( or atleast the creatue that got him turned ) is a spawn of Second ).
The Eye did say Malik was : '' Completed, but kept whole by faith ''.
''Completed'' in this context likely means Malik is far enough evolved to become an avatar of his Apostle, but ''kept whole by faith'' could be that his consciousness and that of those who died for his sake are keeping him from ascending, like an anchor.
Hell maybe that's the reason they were sacrificed in the first place, to keep Malik, a level 5 perfect superhuman from becoming an avatar.
Ofc my theory has some holes, I mean the rituals for becoming an avatar need to consensual, but maybe the Second is powerful enough to force his spawn into submitting, so that's why Malik, Xanthe, or someone else performed a sacrifice on Malik, to keep that from happening, who knows
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I think the MC's powers are particularly hard to imagine how they could develop into something stronger. He's dependent on what the writer gives him in a way that other characters' aren't. Which I know sounds weird, they're all dependent on what the writer lets them do, but hear me out. Most of the characters' powers are self-contained. They source only from themselves and how they've developed them. That makes it conceivable how they'd get stronger. They'll do what they're currently doing, but more powerful and with more finesse and maybe some more creative applications. It's easy to think of ways Alice could direct her growth, for example. Better barriers, more space-warping, golems like Danu and Aos have, etc.
But the MC's powers are based on something external to him. He has to work with what biology he's found to copy. Like, if he wants to improve his blades, he can't really develop that on his own. He doesn't have the fine control. He has to find something that has better blades than what he's working with, and if he can't, too bad for him. He doesn't get to have better blades. And it's not like we have a compendium of every monster in the setting and every potentially useful biological trait they possess, so the MC's potential growth is kind of a blank space. We don't know what he might someday be capable of, which since his foes have well-defined feats of power to compare him to, makes it hard to think he'd ever reach them.
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Damn, looking from this perspective it makes sense
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Is that true tho ? I think that's what puts the Mc's potential way beyond anyone else's, I mean, first, we already have two templates that show us what the Mc's paths forward could lead to.
First template is coming from Ella, she represents what the Mc could achieve in regards to his Body traits, her powers to shapeshift countless times depending on the situation, her incredible control and knowledge of Body, and her abbility to manipulate and shape matter and infuse other beings with her powers ( as she did with Duncan ). With her powers of shapeshifting she was able to brifly withstand an attack from Malik, she was able to dodge Nico's portals due to her heightening her reflexes to the absolute peak, and the Mc briefly showed the same when he resisted Aos's teleportation.
The second template is Sylla, honestly the Mc said it best, it would be insane if he could do half the technniques she pulled, from teleporting enemies in the Dream world, I mean Mc in his fight against level 4 Cole did this briefly, Scylla on the other hand teleported Indra there for the entirety of their fight, then there's making enemies forget their actions, to connecting to other souls and calling them in battle etc, the possibilities are endless.
And the cream of the crop ofc, is that unlike Sylla and Ella, the Mc can combine these since he has both traits, he could connect to a soul with his Memory, and replicate their biology with his Body.
Honestly sorry to say, but I categorically disagree with you, whilst everyone else is bound by their specific ability types, the Mc is so versatile in his potential it's insane to imagine.
yeah and all that came from the writer who has to imagine what he can do so its still limited to the writer even if he has insane potential its still limited to if the writer actually uses it plus the replicate biology isn't possible with certain things in this game like the monsters because their powers are a part of their biology and it even changes their biology so if mc wants to copy their biology he has to somehow copy or replicate their abilities which isn't possible and if he did the writer would have to find a way to write that into a fight with all of mcs other abelites and have to change some of his other abelites if he did do mcs potential.
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I'm not saying that the MC doesn't have potential. He does. I'm saying that the way his potential works makes it hard to predict what he'll actually do with it. Like, you're absolutely correct, the MC has an incredibly broad and versatile potential for how he can grow. But so much of it is based on things that are still unknown. What monsters will the MC scan and reproduce traits from? How much does not being as good at Body or Memory reduce his abilities compared to Ella or Syla? What does combining Body and Memory together actually do? What influence will the Eye have on his powers? And so on. What answers Weirdworld settles on for those questions determines a lot about what the MC's "endgame build" will look like, and makes it hard to predict it from this perspective.
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Ugh man, all this theorizing just make me shudder to think about the waiting for the next update
i wonder if the mc from this game will appear in that game as some eldritch horror or something
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This is a similar misconception to illiterate medieval peasants.
A lot of people could write and read, but there was no unified rules for the language and the nobility spoke french while the priests spoke latin, both fluent in word and on parchment and with concise rules.
The legion example is a case of 'it makes a better banner design'.
The general rule is, though, no cipher repeats more than thrice.
Numbers go from left to right from the highest to the lowest.
A smaller number before a higher subtracts.
If you follow these rules and want minimalism, you automatically write 14 as XIV and 13 as XIII, because that's less strokes. And when you put these to stone or clay, that fucking matters.
Actually no, we've seen the peak of shapeshifting at the beginning with Ella training him to rearrange his atoms and in the middle at it's peak when Ella used shapshifting backwards to resist her form being altered.
These *are* the conceptual end points of MC's main power and we've seen lesser versions used in the fight against Cole where it's actually stated that he struggles with his shapeshifting power to maintain the diamond head axes.
The problem comes from adding the memory trait and how that will influence his other existing power, as well as how it will evolve on its own. Because it's very possible that MC may be able to physically shapeshift into the imagined forms from the minds of others.
And that's a horrific idea.
Also electricity absorption. Now imagine MC wiring himself to the electricity flowing in a cosmic dust cloud with a few billion times the strongest terrestrial lightning strike ever recorded.
I'm gonna give y'all a bit of a dampener here, because with how deeply stylistic this game is, there is no way WW doesn't let some... WW-ism into whatever the follow up is.
And that may cause a lot of weirdness for anyone who played Superhuman intensely. So it may take some time getting used to the new game if you've been here for a while.
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I just started this update and is it just me or has the monster world looooong overstayed its welcome?? Like they've even been in there for a year in the story
I'm actually of the opinion that late game MC will be able to look through the DNA memories of all creatures through his Memory World link and will be able to create any structure that exists at all.
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WW has reveled in a semi lore drop in celebration for the updates release that apparently Maliks and Bernhardt monsters are related/brothers. He also reveled their monsters traits:
Maliks monster - Truth/Fantasy/Power.
Bernhardt monster - Truth/Fantasy/Space.
Maliks monster - Truth/Fantasy/Power.
Bernhardt monster - Truth/Fantasy/Space.
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I'm pretty miffed!
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I'm sure I'm not the only one that is drawing this conclusion after their origins were revealed. They both so happen to overlap with Henri speculated powers. In the Truth and Fantasy parts.
As I'm typing this, it's a bit hard to hold back so I'll just say the thought that came to mind. Henri is the river while Malik and Bernhardt are the streams. They all flow towards and connect to the ocean (Not referring to the Great Ocean). At least that's my assumption after receiving this information. Essentially, they all have a portion of Paradox power. The three of them possibly hosting portions of the unborn Origin itself allowed such a path to open.
Now obviously it's anyone's guess of which facet is split among the three. It could be all of it or just portions of it. But that's likely why the Origin doesn't awake in Henri. Because it's split between all 3 of them and through their three way connection, they got much more out of their evolutions and powers. Along with their already perfect prowess as superhumans.
Which, assuming the above is true, would explain why no one could possibly reach their levels. Even if they were the perfect superhuman like them. Because it's really the perfect storm of opportunities. And that's not the only thought that came to mind from this lore drop. But I'll wait until the public release so I can check a few things.
Though I'll just say that obviously it's speculation. And while I don't think WW lied about their origin. There's a chance that this isn't the conclusion to be drawn from it.
As I'm typing this, it's a bit hard to hold back so I'll just say the thought that came to mind. Henri is the river while Malik and Bernhardt are the streams. They all flow towards and connect to the ocean (Not referring to the Great Ocean). At least that's my assumption after receiving this information. Essentially, they all have a portion of Paradox power. The three of them possibly hosting portions of the unborn Origin itself allowed such a path to open.
Now obviously it's anyone's guess of which facet is split among the three. It could be all of it or just portions of it. But that's likely why the Origin doesn't awake in Henri. Because it's split between all 3 of them and through their three way connection, they got much more out of their evolutions and powers. Along with their already perfect prowess as superhumans.
Which, assuming the above is true, would explain why no one could possibly reach their levels. Even if they were the perfect superhuman like them. Because it's really the perfect storm of opportunities. And that's not the only thought that came to mind from this lore drop. But I'll wait until the public release so I can check a few things.
Though I'll just say that obviously it's speculation. And while I don't think WW lied about their origin. There's a chance that this isn't the conclusion to be drawn from it.