VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[OnlineRando]

That's... a really good point. I hadn't thought of it like that. And everything we've read seems to indicate there's no meaningful difference between an evolution serum for a level 5 and one for any other level. Unfortunately, I think it ultimately has to be chocked up to "WW says it just works".

There is a difference, since according to Lexy and Clark, the level 5 serum was, at the time they fought against Ella and evolved via said serum, a recent development. We don't know what the difference is necessarily, or if every level needs adjustments, but at the very least, the level 5 one is different than the others.

What we do know, is that the level 5 serum doesn't seem to be adjusted on a person-to-person basis, since Ella just popped a random one. The other serums might not either, but I think I remember Xanthe saying he needs time to prepare the serum for Michael.

Or, alternatively, Body allows you to consume and evolve from serums not specifically made for you.

 

[OnlineRando]

Apostle Spawns -

1st Apostle = Jake (Greater)

2nd Apostle = Indra (Chosen), Michael (Greater)

3rd Apostle = Ella (Chosen), MC (Greater) (player determined)

4th Apostle = Syla (Former Chosen), MC (Greater)

5th Apostle = Claudia (Greater)

6th Apostle = Aos (Chosen), Alice (New Chosen)

7th Apostle = Valravn (Chosen)

8th Apostle = Tiffany (Greater)

9th Apostle = Eisheth (Chosen)

10th Apostle = Aglaecwif (Chosen)

11th Apostle = Evander (Greater)

12th Apostle = Rebis (Chosen), Devana (Greater)

Something to also keep in mind is all Chosen are Greater Spawns but all Greater Spawns aren't Chosen. Those turned by the Apostles, their Chosen and their Chosen spawns are considered Greater Spawns. But not all of them are Chosen or can become one. It's possible for spawns of Chosen (2nd Generation) to succeed the previous Chosen and even their spawn. Assuming they meet the requirements and maintained everything.

For example, if Alice (2nd Generation) infected someone that was about around the same ballpark as herself with the Ether Trait. They could potentially become a Chosen later. If she died or they manage to beat her. Assuming they fulfill the requirements.

With all of that said. Because I know it's going to be asked. Deryl, Michael and MC can't become Chosen. They're each missing requirements. And yes, even WW said this was so. Not that it was needed because we know Michael wasn't an exact fit for the 2nd. MC having both traits already tells you about it. But he has another route that will allow him to surpass the pure ones by combining them. Deryl messed up when he became a monster and didn't complete his Rebis Ascension.

Other noteworthy or believed Greater Spawns are:

Nico - 3rd or 4th Gen of the 6th via Hexenringe. Which can be 2nd Gen or 3rd Gen depending on who created it.

Elijah - of the 9th line via one Eisheth descendants.

Kira - 2nd Gen of the 12th or 3rd via Goliath?

Deryl - 2nd Gen of the 12th via Rebis.

Tanos - 2nd Gen of the 12th via Rebis.

Shen - 2nd Gen of the 10th via Aglaecwif.

Zack - Of the 5th line. Likely high based off of his powers being so potent.

Clark - Of the 8th line and likely high since his monster is close enough to the 8th for him to share similar powers with Tiffany.

Danica - Of the 11th line but we don't know how high the M65 Gestas was.

You could probably throw a few more in there like Alexis, Lucius and maybe Nyx. But these should be the more "confirmed" greater spawn in the game. As in, they're believably high in the line or their monster were.

Regarding Deryl, his monster trait percentages would automatically disqualify him from being a chosen. He doesn't even have the proper power of creation. Which begs the question, how is the Rebis even a chosen? It should have the same power and percentages as Deryl, and obviously doesn't have the same power as Devana.

 

[Grimnir098]

There is a difference, since according to Lexy and Clark, the level 5 serum was, at the time they fought against Ella and evolved via said serum, a recent development. We don't know what the difference is necessarily, or if every level needs adjustments, but at the very least, the level 5 one is different than the others.

Are you sure it was specifically the level 5 serum that was a recent development and not evolution serums as a whole?

What we do know, is that the level 5 serum doesn't seem to be adjusted on a person-to-person basis, since Ella just popped a random one. The other serums might not either, but I think I remember Xanthe saying he needs time to prepare the serum for Michael.

Or, alternatively, Body allows you to consume and evolve from serums not specifically made for you.

Serums need to be adjusted to reduce corruption and risk of monsterfication, not to allow someone to consume it and evolve.

 

[OnlineRando]

Are you sure it was specifically the level 5 serum that was a recent development and not evolution serums as a whole?

I don't remember, imma check in a bit

 

[KKStrider]

I'd guess the difference between a serum that a Level 4 would get compared to a lower Level superhuman would probably be purely on how it's tailored, since it has to match their biology at that Level - evolutions mutate a superhuman further after all - to be the most effective. The evolution serum can be taken in its raw, unmodified form just like Ella did, but doing so has been stated to increase the odds of failure and turning into a Variant monster, whilst the tailoring to biology increases odds of success.

 

[OnlineRando]

Are you sure it was specifically the level 5 serum that was a recent development and not evolution serums as a whole?

Replayed the Ella vs Clark and Lexy fight, I don't see anything saying it's for general evolutions, nor for specifically level 5. I guess you could argue that Clark and Lexy's surprise regarding the power gained from the serum might indicate it's a general evolution serum, or at least that they hadn't used it before, but idk.

There might be more info elsewhere, but I don't wanna go prop hunting for this honestly.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

The performance I expect from the fraud Eye when it finally finds the two things it’s been yapping about and becomes complete.

 

[bfc233]

Are we sure there is only one serum?

Talking about, have we ever gained some significant insight into what happened when Michael had his shared evolution with Tiff?

 

[INquiop]

Well that'd be a grime outlook, since that means no more superhumans. You need Pure Humans for reproduction of the human race.

Clone's ?

 

[UncleFappy]

Clone's ?

Or breed with monsters.

 

[INquiop]

But probably clones since we have a literal guy whose powers is cloning himself. that old science dude probably could modify his power in a lab and setup a machine to clone the people before they turn them into superhumans. or s.i.n could be doing that with some werid power combo between some of the members

 

[OnlineRando]

Or breed with monsters.

That makes monsters.

But probably clones since we have a literal guy whose powers is cloning himself. that old science dude probably could modify his power in a lab and setup a machine to clone the people before they turn them into superhumans. or s.i.n could be doing that with some werid power combo between some of the members

How would Xanthe even begin doing that? There's no indication H.E.RO. is capable of straight-up engineering powers.

 

[UncleFappy]

That makes monsters.

WW said that results in either a human or monster, according to a post in the previous page.

 

[OnlineRando]

WW said that results in either a human or monster, according to a post in the previous page.

Oh. Well, that makes sense, I guess.

 

[BobCarter]

Or you could do the Mc's way and fuck any monster chick remotely humanoid looking, I don't think there has been a answer as to what offspring mating beetwen a Superhuman and a monster produces, could be another superhuman or a monster depending and how strong the genes from either are.

There has it produces monsters, minus whatever the fuck mom did which some how made a pure human.

 

[BobCarter]

Clone's ?

Good point, if they have the sci-fi bullshit for it that'd be a long term plan I guess.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Apostle Spawns -

1st Apostle = Jake (Greater)

2nd Apostle = Indra (Chosen), Michael (Greater)

3rd Apostle = Ella (Chosen), MC (Greater) (player determined)

4th Apostle = Syla (Former Chosen), MC (Greater)

5th Apostle = Claudia (Greater)

6th Apostle = Aos (Chosen), Alice (New Chosen)

7th Apostle = Valravn (Chosen)

8th Apostle = Tiffany (Greater)

9th Apostle = Eisheth (Chosen)

10th Apostle = Aglaecwif (Chosen)

11th Apostle = Evander (Greater)

12th Apostle = Rebis (Chosen), Devana (Greater)

Something to also keep in mind is all Chosen are Greater Spawns but all Greater Spawns aren't Chosen. Those turned by the Apostles, their Chosen and their Chosen spawns are considered Greater Spawns. But not all of them are Chosen or can become one. It's possible for spawns of Chosen (2nd Generation) to succeed the previous Chosen and even their spawn. Assuming they meet the requirements and maintained everything.

For example, if Alice (2nd Generation) infected someone that was about around the same ballpark as herself with the Ether Trait. They could potentially become a Chosen later. If she died or they manage to beat her. Assuming they fulfill the requirements.

With all of that said. Because I know it's going to be asked. Deryl, Michael and MC can't become Chosen. They're each missing requirements. And yes, even WW said this was so. Not that it was needed because we know Michael wasn't an exact fit for the 2nd. MC having both traits already tells you about it. But he has another route that will allow him to surpass the pure ones by combining them. Deryl messed up when he became a monster and didn't complete his Rebis Ascension.

Other noteworthy or believed Greater Spawns are:

Nico - 3rd or 4th Gen of the 6th via Hexenringe. Which can be 2nd Gen or 3rd Gen depending on who created it.

Elijah - of the 9th line via one Eisheth descendants.

Kira - 2nd Gen of the 12th or 3rd via Goliath?

Deryl - 2nd Gen of the 12th via Rebis.

Tanos - 2nd Gen of the 12th via Rebis.

Shen - 2nd Gen of the 10th via Aglaecwif.

Zack - Of the 5th line. Likely high based off of his powers being so potent.

Clark - Of the 8th line and likely high since his monster is close enough to the 8th for him to share similar powers with Tiffany.

Danica - Of the 11th line but we don't know how high the M65 Gestas was.

You could probably throw a few more in there like Alexis, Lucius and maybe Nyx. But these should be the more "confirmed" greater spawn in the game. As in, they're believably high in the line or their monster were.

I actually think Aos was infected by the previous Chosen of Ether, based on how he complains about how tall they were yet he ended up so small

 

[INquiop]

That makes monsters.

How would Xanthe even begin doing that? There's no indication H.E.RO. is capable of straight-up engineering powers.

this is weird dude who is a scientist in a basement of a building of organization plus think FF7 remake who does kind of look like ? this man for sure has some secret's in that building or at other facilities that the big boss has no clue about. Then lets not forget this man experiments all the time on others and no doubt on himself

 

[OnlineRando]

this is weird dude who is a scientist in a basement of a building of organization plus think FF7 remake who does kind of look like ? this man for sure has some secret's in that building or at other facilities that the big boss has no clue about. Then lets not forget this man experiments all the time on others and no doubt on himself

Because he still uses actual monsters when making new superhumans instead of artificially making perfect ones? Just because he's got a lot of knowledge and skill regarding superhumans, that doesn't mean he should get the Batman preptime treatment. He can't do everything.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I actually think Aos was infected by the previous Chosen of Ether, based on how he complains about how tall they were yet he ended up so small

Apostles can potentially override or ascend spawns higher. Assuming they're not too far down the line. For instance, MC is technically 2nd Gen of the 4th from birth. Syla having him when she was already a spawn of the 4th. However, MC can get infected and rises directly to 1st generation. Being the "true son of an Apostle" according to Aglaecwif.

Obviously, the circumstances are different. The context being that MC was mostly human unlike the Sky People, who I believe were genetically modified and then made into Superhuman. If I remember the recent update. But at the same time, it could also be similar since Aos and Danu could still have kids after that happened?

Talking about, have we ever gained some significant insight into what happened when Michael had his shared evolution with Tiff?

From what we could tell. The insight was given in the scene itself. They got more out of their evolution. Michael getting way more because the 2nd showed up. And while Tiffany did get things from it. It wasn't as great since the 8th wasn't there for her.

Also, at least from Xanthe and Nyx side. They likely just wanted to see how the Apostles work. Nyx pointing out to MC that something was present but he couldn't sense it. With her even make sure MC was the one to join in their fight. Presumably, to bait an interaction. Meanwhile Xanthe starts questioning why the 8th didn't show up.