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ozoz69

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You forgot the "Donate to my Patreon for more."

I typically keep my comments to myself on these "In progress games" but this is ridiculous.
At least give us a half-hour of content before trying to plug a Patreon or something.
This just screams "stay away" to me.

1.The person you are answering is not the producer of this game.
2.Okay, did you answer. But with the subject this member wrote, your answer is not at all relevant.
3.You can criticize the game. This is your choice . (short lesson, bad image v.s ...)
4.But what I put on my page is not your choice. The Patreon page is mine and I can ask for help as I want. It is every individual's own choice to help or not to help. Your choice is like being stay away from my patreon. U can.
5.I respect your choice. You should respect my choice.
 

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Seeing the overall concept and by playing the intro to tell you the truth no one knows what will you do in the game. I will just add a few questions and give a few recommendations:

So let's start:
-How will the game be?. Seeing as you are using ren'py I find two possible options here:
*A game like Big Brother in the sense that your character can take actions during the day but having "main events" that happen at x point or when y conditions are met. Usually in this type of game the MC has a few stats or skills and it is followed the affection of the girl/s towards the MC and any other parameters. I recommend this type for the game that you are doing.

*A game like Dating my daughter in which we follow a visual novel pure style, choosing a few options during the events of the story and seeing how it develops. It usually tracks stats too that can be increased or decreased depending on your choices during the story and it serves to lock options if you don't meet the requirements.

-Will the swinging be able to develop into netorare/netori?: Being more clear this means that by having interactions with Ashley she could end up deciding that she loves more Alvin over Brain (netori) or that Tania could end up deciding that she loves more Brain over Alvin and leave him (netorare), it can be used for endings or just a part of the game.

-While in your patreon page you don't add it, you are saying that this game contains incest, which is clearly banned by patreon so you are kind of asking to get banned before you can start. I recommend that you eliminate incest because you are risking a ban from patreon.

-Finally a big question would be how far the lesbian content will go, I kind of suppose not too far because we don't have a FF tag but a MFF one.
 
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ozoz69

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Seeing the overall concept and by playing the intro to tell you the truth no one knows what will you do in the game. I will just add a few questions and give a few recommendations:

So let's start:
-How will the game be?. Seeing as you are using ren'py I find two possible options here:
*A game like Big Brother in the sense that your character can take actions during the day but having "main events" that happen at x point or when y conditions are met. Usually in this type of game the MC has a few stats or skills and it is followed the affection of the girl/s towards the MC and any other parameters. I recommend this type for the game that you are doing.

*A game like Dating my daughter in which we follow a visual novel pure style, choosing a few options during the events of the story and seeing how it develops. It usually tracks stats too that can be increased or decreased depending on your choices during the story and it serves to lock options if you don't meet the requirements.

-Will the swinging be able to develop into netorare/netori?: Being more clear this means that by having interactions with Ashley she could end up deciding that she loves more Alvin over Brain (netori) or that Tania could end up deciding that she loves more Brain over Alvin and leave him (netorare), it can be used for endings or just a part of the game.

-While in your patreon page you don't add it, you are saying that this game contains incest, which is clearly banned by patreon so you are kind of asking to get banned before you can start. I recommend that you eliminate incest because you are risking a ban from patreon.

-Finally a big question would be how far the lesbian content will go, I kind of suppose not too far because we don't have a FF tag but a MFF one.
Thank you for your criticism and suggestions.

The story is completely mine and independent. I now accept that I have released this version early, I was releasing a version with a little content and a longer version, not just an introduction.

The game will be like the second option, so it will be in the form of visual novel. But here I also got advice on how to proceed with the first option (like big brother). If I want to do the game according to your recommendations. I'm just starting to learn Renpy. But I can learn how to make the first option, but the end result of my computer's capacity is out of date because I do not have time to learn because I have to release a new version on 2 March.

The main character is Tania. It will advance over her wishes, but will progress to the extent allowed by her husband (the person who plays the game will determine the choices). I will interact Tania's best friend ashley and the game will progress like flashing, lesbien, voyeur, soft and full swinger. Everything will be just as I write.

When it comes to incest, there is no such option in patreon, I did not write it in the explanations. But as I said, I am unemployed and open to advice. I wrote Only in Patreon; mother, son, dad, my daughter. If even these will provide me to get rid of them.
I think that the incest will start very soon, maybe 11th version will start 11th version. In addition to this an extra file with a separate file to give my patrons. So in patreon, there will never be an incest version.
Do not do incest at all.
What advice do you advise me to get rid of Patreon.

Yeah, we're not far from lesbian sex. Because Tania's sex preference is bisexual, she will always have lesbian sex. But as I said, this will depend entirely on the player's preferences.

Thank you again
 
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DawnCry

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Thank you for your criticism and suggestions.

The story is completely mine and independent. I now accept that I have released this version early, I was releasing a version with a little content and a longer version, not just an introduction.

The game will be like the second option, so it will be in the form of visual novel. But here I also got advice on how to proceed with the first option (like big brother). If I want to do the game according to your recommendations. I'm just starting to learn Renpy. But I can learn how to make the first option, but the end result of my computer's capacity is out of date because I do not have time to learn because I have to release a new version on 2 March.

The main character is Tania. It will advance over her wishes, but will progress to the extent allowed by her husband (the person who plays the game will determine the choices). I will interact Tania's best friend ashley and the game will progress like flashing, lesbien, voyeur, soft and full swinger. Everything will be just as I write.

When it comes to incest, there is no such option in patreon, I did not write it in the explanations. But as I said, I am unemployed and open to advice. I wrote Only in Patreon; mother, son, dad, my daughter. If even these will provide me to get rid of them.
I think that the incest will start very soon, maybe 11th version will start 11th version. In addition to this an extra file with a separate file to give my patrons. So in patreon, there will never be an incest version.
Do not do incest at all.
What advice do you advise me to get rid of Patreon.

Yeah, we're not far from lesbian sex. Because Tania's sex preference is bisexual, she will always have lesbian sex. But as I said, this will depend entirely on the player's preferences.

Thank you again
Well if it's your first game then it's usually better the second one (visual novel style), however for the theme of the game I find it better the first one, but just do what you can on that point, no one starts knowing how to do everything.

It's very interesting that you have clarified that Tania is the MC because that changes things a lot, I won't try to give recommendations on this point because I suppose you will have your own plan about how it develops.

But about incest I truly don't recommend it because patreon doesn't care if it is a mod or whatever, this is a big risk you are taking by adding it, I'm only saying this so that you know the risk. It's a very bad moment for that fetish. If you add it and patreon detects it by any way you will get banned.

I would wait until pages like are ready before thinking to add fetishes like that again.
 

ozoz69

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Well if it's your first game then it's usually better the second one (visual novel style), however for the theme of the game I find it better the first one, but just do what you can on that point, no one starts knowing how to do everything.

It's very interesting that you have clarified that Tania is the MC because that changes things a lot, I won't try to give recommendations on this point because I suppose you will have your own plan about how it develops.

But about incest I truly don't recommend it because patreon doesn't care if it is a mod or whatever, this is a big risk you are taking by adding it, I'm only saying this so that you know the risk. It's a very bad moment for that fetish. If you add it and patreon detects it by any way you will get banned.

I would wait until pages like are ready before thinking to add fetishes like that again.
When you mentioned the website, you have information about how to operate.
 

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When you mentioned the website, you have information about how to operate.
It is still in development so until it is ready we don't know a lot, I just said the page to give information that patreon is gonna get good competition in the future, but it may be ready around march or so. However if you want to add incest to the game I recommend that you have it waiting until then.
 
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Well if it's your first game then it's usually better the second one (visual novel style), however for the theme of the game I find it better the first one, but just do what you can on that point, no one starts knowing how to do everything.

It's very interesting that you have clarified that Tania is the MC because that changes things a lot, I won't try to give recommendations on this point because I suppose you will have your own plan about how it develops.

But about incest I truly don't recommend it because patreon doesn't care if it is a mod or whatever, this is a big risk you are taking by adding it, I'm only saying this so that you know the risk. It's a very bad moment for that fetish. If you add it and patreon detects it by any way you will get banned.

I would wait until pages like are ready before thinking to add fetishes like that again.
Stop it man, Let him add the incest for the game. There are many other incest games on patreon but nothing happened. Maybe he could give us a patch. We play adult games as a fantasy and it's no fun without incest.
 

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When you mentioned the website, you have information about how to operate.
You go dude! I will donate to your patreon cuz you have created something different by adding '' swingers''. There is no much swingers adult games.
 
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DawnCry

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Stop it man, Let him add the incest for the game. There are many other incest games on patreon but nothing happened. Maybe he could give us a patch. We play adult games as a fantasy and it's no fun without incest.
I'm not against incest, however I wouldn't want him to get his patreon banned because of it. There are many other games with incest indeed, however I wonder how much time will they be without a message from patreon after they ended with the big patreon games containing it.
 
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It is still in development so until it is ready we don't know a lot, I just said the page to give information that patreon is gonna get good competition in the future, but it may be ready around march or so. However if you want to add incest to the game I recommend that you have it waiting until then.


I got it on the website. But I also wondered if it would cause a problem like this;
Can I issue a problem if I publish the game in two separate platforms? Patreon, does that allow it?

Do you know anything about that?
 

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I got it on the website. But I also wondered if it would cause a problem like this;
Can I issue a problem if I publish the game in two separate platforms? Patreon, does that allow it?

Do you know anything about that?
Based on what patreon says:

Retain Full Control
Still want to run ads, do brand deals, or work with sponsors? Cool with us!

They can limit you on the money that you gain with them, however you could easily have in another place something to support an "incest mod" for the game. They can stop you in the sense that the money you obtain with patreon can't be used on banned content, however if you are earning money from another place and the patreon version remains without that content what can they do?.
 

ozoz69

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Based on what patreon says:

Retain Full Control
Still want to run ads, do brand deals, or work with sponsors? Cool with us!

They can limit you on the money that you gain with them, however you could easily have in another place something to support an "incest mod" for the game. They can stop you in the sense that the money you obtain with patreon can't be used on banned content, however if you are earning money from another place and the patreon version remains without that content what can they do?.
I understand. Thank you for the information you have given me
 

DawnCry

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I understand. Thank you for the information you have given me
Just so that you know what patreon says about sexual content I will post here their guidelines about it, I recommend that you read it to be well informed:

"We ask creators to flag themselves as Adult Content if they create any content that has mature themes such as sexuality or graphic violence. When you are flagged as Adult Content your page is removed from our search. We also require that all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences. Content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post.

We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline. As a reminder, you should never post or share nude content of any individual under the age of 18, including yourself. As a strong commitment to child safety, we will work with law enforcement whenever we come across child exploitation.

We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.

We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon.

Lastly, you cannot sell pornographic material or arrange sexual service(s) as a reward for your patrons. We define pornographic material as real people engaging in sexual acts such as masturbation or sexual intercourse on camera. You can’t use Patreon to raise funds in order to produce pornographic material such as maintaining a website, funding the production of movies, or providing a private webcam session."
 

ozoz69

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Just so that you know what patreon says about sexual content I will post here their guidelines about it, I recommend that you read it to be well informed:

"We ask creators to flag themselves as Adult Content if they create any content that has mature themes such as sexuality or graphic violence. When you are flagged as Adult Content your page is removed from our search. We also require that all public content on your page be appropriate for all audiences. Content with mature themes must be marked as a patron-only post.

We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline. As a reminder, you should never post or share nude content of any individual under the age of 18, including yourself. As a strong commitment to child safety, we will work with law enforcement whenever we come across child exploitation.

We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.

We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon.

Lastly, you cannot sell pornographic material or arrange sexual service(s) as a reward for your patrons. We define pornographic material as real people engaging in sexual acts such as masturbation or sexual intercourse on camera. You can’t use Patreon to raise funds in order to produce pornographic material such as maintaining a website, funding the production of movies, or providing a private webcam session."

Yes, I do not think there is a problem with them in my design. I know I've met all of these rules.
But as far as I understand, I understand that incest is allowed if it does not contain extreme porn (little extreme scenes like Lolita)
Did I get right? Because sometimes my english is not enough;)
 

DawnCry

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Yes, I do not think there is a problem with them in my design. I know I've met all of these rules.
But as far as I understand, I understand that incest is allowed if it does not contain extreme porn (little extreme scenes like Lolita)
Did I get right? Because sometimes my english is not enough;)
Indeed, ironically incest, rape and many other things can be used IF you meet the requirement "the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative".

However believe me, that would only be used on a novel, if you talk about a game you will receive a big no.

I still don't understand why do people try to give the same rights to fictional characters but well, it will always be strange for me that killing people in games is okay but most sexual things are persecuted.
 
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