RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.45] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

No one thinks they are the villain. No matter how wrong he is, Inoda will of course justified what he did to get what he wants. That is why our verdicts are decided by third-parties. But in NTR stories, the villains are usually right. By the end of the story Inoda will get what he wants, Asuna will be happier than when she was at beginning of the game so everything he did was worth it.

Ironically, that last bit is one of main positive reasons I personally wanted Suguha to be 'stolen away' by Inoda back after playing Part 1, because Inoda legit would also end up with Sugu 'better', while Hebishima legit would just fuck her till she got knocked up and then throw her away after getting bored most likely (Weird how bad then I admitted it was just a silly impossible personal wish, but now after Part 2's start and that poll it could really happen, lol).

It kinda depends on the NTR story. I have played NTR games where the villain is just evil for the sake of being evil, the justification being at most "I just thought she look kind hot." or where stealing the love interest is more secondary to the antagonist. So its really nice to have a really good villain in this, but i will probably just start gushing about how well i think the characters are written so i will stop.

It really depends on your personal view of the characters' morals honestly, like, Inoda technically is less "evil" than your random NTR Rape doujin character or even Fujino's usual NTR males in previous game, technically, but this is mostly because he starts out as a loser who becomes an opportunistic bastard first chance he gets from people who genuinely wanted to be kind to him. For all intents and purposes from a 'normal' standpoint he's "evil", regardless of his reasons for doing so, he has raped and blackmailed to get what he wants and he wants to ruin someone's life (Kirito's) just for his own selfishness. The only real 'positive' in him is that he legit wants Asuna and to completely own her and keep her rather than just ruin someone else's life/lives because he's horny and thinks she's hot (Though granted he HAS started walking down a bit in that direction now, between greedily and happily turning Kyouko into his personal slut and more than likely planning to do the same with Liz to help himself get Asuna).

 

[darkbatVX]

Do you have any actual quotations of that being a recent thing? I can't really remember Fujino mentioning this at all at any recent point, even less specifically about Suguha (Who I pay close attention to any news coming about). This we're talking about now is something based off recent developments, aka the whole debacle in Part 2, not anything about the previous plans of how the game was gonna go or its story.

In case you didn't know, many things happened after the first update of Part 2 that resulted in that recent "poll" which is what this entire 'issue' comes from and that have been discussed around during the past few weeks: Fujino himself offered the choice of getting rid of Hebishima (Clearly because he saw way too many people complaining about not being interested in the non-Asuna stories), which is why this went from a totally impossible unrealistic thing to an actual possibility. If Hebishima gets removed from the game, Fujino would NOT just remove Suguha or Shino (The girls in his 'plot'), so they would most likely end up somehow getting folded into Inoda's plot somehow.

This is what has sparkled some debate ever since that poll came out because people are split into those who don't care, those who don't want that, and those who would be all for it (I'm in the latter camp myself).

I tried searching, and indeed, I couldn't find the original source. It's possible that he deleted it. And yes, it could be that he had a different mindset before and has recently undergone some changes.

 

[darkbatVX]

I would argue that Inoda THINKS its real love, doing everything he can to get to Asuna. I think that Indoa thinks what he is doing is sort of "opening her eyes" and trying to make her see that he should be her one true love, not Kirito.

Yes, that's what I meant. Inoda’s love may be atypical and twisted, but at least he himself believes that his feelings for Asuna are genuine and not just a fling. His involvement with Asuna's mother and his insults towards Asuna stem from his flawed personality, but it doesn't contradict his love for her.

 

[oozaru2023]

if hebishima is removed, it will become a generic NTR.

 

[TheMagister]

Yeah, I prefer Inoda having Asuna, Liv, and Asuna's mom, and Hebishima dealing with other girls. Inoda being focused on Asuna (and Liz and the mom get involved because of that) makes more sense than Inoda going after every single girl in town. Especially when you consider the amount of sex that was happening in general in Part 1, it'd be weird if now only Inoda was getting lucky.

 

[HentaiBaka]

Hebishima needs to disappear while Agir or old dude needs to replace him

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yeah, I prefer Inoda having Asuna, Liv, and Asuna's mom, and Hebishima dealing with other girls. Inoda being focused on Asuna (and Liz and the mom get involved because of that) makes more sense than Inoda going after every single girl in town. Especially when you consider the amount of sex that was happening in general in Part 1, it'd be weird if now only Inoda was getting lucky.

The thing about Inoda "getting lucky with every girl" is not that it will happen for making sense or being more story-logic, is just what will naturally happen if Hebishima IS removed, that's all there is to it. Everything depends on if the poll won that way or not and if it was enough to convince Fujino to do so or not.

Hebishima needs to disappear while Agir or old dude needs to replace him

This won't happen under any circumstances, lol. I remember someone else in Ci-En was also trying to say Agil should replace Hebishima, and even ignoring the eye-roll-worthy attempt of people in the SAO NTR community lately of trying to turn Agil into the Raikage when it comes to SAO NTR, what you're not getting is that the only reason Fujino is even considering removing Hebishima is because he realized most people didn't care for the plots that weren't Inoda's, if Hebishima is gone he won't make someone else replace him at all, the girls would either 'vanish' or be folded into Inoda's story (And he wouldn't just remove them after already making their models and everything, he obviously did want to make H-scenes on them regardless, so the latter is the most realistic option).

 

[dolorz141]

You overestimate the developer and the game itself. He only did two things well: portraying the characters of Kirito and Asuna and an unconventional plot twist - pity sex. everything else in the game is very bad and full of boring (maybe even to many) clichés: - Boy with a penis transplanted from a horse -A girl who is being blackmailed (well, imagine what’s worse - they find out that you masturbated on your STEP-brother or become the personal whore of some moral monster?) - A woman who is being blackmailed (a woman with extensive experience of cheating was caught so easily? Well, yes, I really believe it). It remains to add: blackmail by school bullies, interracial sex (+ very large dicks), Asuna moaning “Oh, how good it feels!!! I can’t live without a dick!” (Although a lot of people get along just fine without them, at least with the same vibrators, an excellent replacement Inoda). And then it will be possible to put this game aside in a long row of monotonous crap. At the moment, the developer doesn't have anything special about Asuna. Well, it will show how they grab her ass. That's all. But there will be a lot of Liz, Klein, Alice, poor fucked Suguha. Why was online chat removed? It wasn't bad.

bro really reviewed the plot of an RPGmaker koikatsuslop NTR game made by an ESL

 

[MeepMoop123]

if hebishima is removed, it will become a generic NTR.

I don't really agree with that. I would say it would become more simplistic, but outright generic? I don't really think so.

 

[killerjeb]

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I know this looks hot.

But my god her spine broke, make me feel back pain.

 

[darkbatVX]

Yeah, I prefer Inoda having Asuna, Liv, and Asuna's mom, and Hebishima dealing with other girls. Inoda being focused on Asuna (and Liz and the mom get involved because of that) makes more sense than Inoda going after every single girl in town. Especially when you consider the amount of sex that was happening in general in Part 1, it'd be weird if now only Inoda was getting lucky.

And Inoda doesn't have the ability to clone himself, so if he were to pursue other girls, it would inevitably dilute the number of events with Asuna, which I don't want to see.

 

[jaden000]

there should be a route where Asuna falls in love with Inoda

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

And Inoda doesn't have the ability to clone himself, so if he were to pursue other girls, it would inevitably dilute the number of events with Asuna, which I don't want to see.

See, it actually wouldn't, because 1, this is a Hentai game so the MCs can keep going for as long or as much as the creator wants it, and 2, something people against this change sometimes don't get is that the other girls' having scenes ARE gonna happen no matter what, this is a fact, if Hebishima stays then the only difference is that they will be for Hebishima, but if he's gone they will be folded into Inoda's and probably one way or another be repurposed to actually help fasten him getting Asuna (Getting her jealous or help distract Kirito most likely).

The girls getting with Inoda would not end up reducing the Asuna scenes one way or another in this situation because the only reason Fujino is even considering getting rid of Hebishima is that people don't wanna see more of other storylines, so he wouldn't suddenly make Inoda have to take a dozen scenes or interactions to 'pursue' or 'conquer' the other girls, they would most likely end up 'under him' immediately through whatever plot he writes to get rid of Hebishima or something to prevent that exactly from happening.

 

[Kazuto123]

How many people like AsunaxKirito's canon pairings and like Kirito's character? How many people like Asuna ntr as fantasies?
I wrote about this once. I like Asuna ntr as fantasy and I like AsunaxKirito pairings canonically. I'm reading the LN, and I'm a fan of the AsunaxKirito couple, I'm waiting for the author to write a wedding about Asuna and Kirito.
I'm not interested in haters/trolls and I ignore them, except for the couple's fans

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

How many people like AsunaxKirito's canon pairings and like Kirito's character? How many people like Asuna ntr as fantasies?
I wrote about this once. I like Asuna ntr as fantasy and I like AsunaxKirito pairings canonically. I'm reading the LN, and I'm a fan of the AsunaxKirito couple, I'm waiting for the author to write a wedding about Asuna and Kirito.
I'm not interested in haters/trolls and I ignore them, except for the couple's fans

Dude...you DO realize you're asking that in a thread of a hardcore NTR Hentai game centered about NTR-ing Kirito big time of Asuna and every girl around him filled to the brink with people who actively hate actual SAO/Kirito, right? I don't think you're gonna get answers to your liking at all with that question here, lol

 

[Kazuto123]

Dude...you DO realize you're asking that in a thread of a hardcore NTR Hentai game centered about NTR-ing Kirito big time of Asuna and every girl around him filled to the brink with people who actively hate actual SAO/Kirito, right? I don't think you're gonna get answers to your liking at all with that question here, lol

I know about that. Okay, I'll delete the post

 

[EnterYourNameHere]

I know this looks hot.

But my god her spine broke, make me feel back pain.

hahah yes, if you say it now ^^

 

[Racoon_4]

See, it actually wouldn't, because 1, this is a Hentai game so the MCs can keep going for as long or as much as the creator wants it, and 2, something people against this change sometimes don't get is that the other girls' having scenes ARE gonna happen no matter what, this is a fact, if Hebishima stays then the only difference is that they will be for Hebishima, but if he's gone they will be folded into Inoda's and probably one way or another be repurposed to actually help fasten him getting Asuna (Getting her jealous or help distract Kirito most likely).

Apart from the fact that Inoda would need infinte stamina a day only has 24 hours regardless. So if Inoda would be the only antagonist he would have what - 5 or six girls to fuck? So either he's fucking one every few hours or some of them won't get it for an entire week because he's busy with another one.
But anyways it would decrease the quality of the story and the impact of the ntr itself. I like that the game centers around Inoda, Asuna and Kirito. Squeeze too many side characters in and it dillutes the core of the game.
I don't care if Hebishima stays or leaves - as long as the main focus stays on the three mentioned characters.
And i don't see that with Hebishima gone.

The girls getting with Inoda would not end up reducing the Asuna scenes one way or another in this situation because the only reason Fujino is even considering getting rid of Hebishima is that people don't wanna see more of other storylines, so he wouldn't suddenly make Inoda have to take a dozen scenes or interactions to 'pursue' or 'conquer' the other girls, they would most likely end up 'under him' immediately through whatever plot he writes to get rid of Hebishima or something to prevent that exactly from happening.

If that would be the case what is the point in switching so much after 55% of the game?
Where does the notion of switching Hebishima with Inoda come from? No matter how "fast" Fujino would change it it would need several scenes and developing time for that to occur.
If anything Hebishima and the side girls could have somewhat less content than in part 1. Apart from that nothing major changes. That would allow Fujino to concentrate more on Asuna and the main plotline.

 

[MeepMoop123]

Apart from the fact that Inoda would need infinte stamina a day only has 24 hours regardless. So if Inoda would be the only antagonist he would have what - 5 or six girls to fuck? So either he's fucking one every few hours or some of them won't get it for an entire week because he's busy with another one.
But anyways it would decrease the quality of the story and the impact of the ntr itself. I like that the game centers around Inoda, Asuna and Kirito. Squeeze too many side characters in and it dillutes the core of the game.
I don't care if Hebishima stays or leaves - as long as the main focus stays on the three mentioned characters.
And i don't see that with Hebishima gone.

Last time i checked you can also not literally go into a videogame that transmits some sensations to your actual body. What is it with you guys and realism in a fictional game?
The only person it would effect currently is Suguha (and Sinon now that she is added), all other side characters would stay the same. It would be waaay more of a problem that Sinon is being added as yet another character in the game, but strangly people don't seem to care about that one.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

What is it with you guys and realism in a fictional game?

I don't know man. These people needs to touch grass. They're so fixated in something that should emulate reality and common sense on a porn game.

I for one dont want these in real life. Why would I treat it with common sense when it's not real in the first place.