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About an hr worth of content once you figure out building relationship points are useless to advance the story. Still has potential I will be back in a year to see how it goes.
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I realized what was happening after clicking the crystal back and forth a few times. I eventually noticed that the map options had changed.
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CELESTEE BEST GIRL ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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*Sigh* I knew Lillian was too good to be true. Great character with an awesome personality but.. A camwhore? Why?
My hatred for the whole camwhore cliché continues to grow stronger. Like what's the point of her character being a camwhore? I could see if she needed money or something, but for what? Out of boredom? For attention? Then there's the choice you're given after her show where she asks Mc how he liked her stream, if you select that you're not into it she gets sad and appears to mope. Like what? You're now in the wrong because you don't enjoy strangers getting off to a woman you're pursuing or might have a thing for? I'm going to bed lol.
My hatred for the whole camwhore cliché continues to grow stronger. Like what's the point of her character being a camwhore? I could see if she needed money or something, but for what? Out of boredom? For attention? Then there's the choice you're given after her show where she asks Mc how he liked her stream, if you select that you're not into it she gets sad and appears to mope. Like what? You're now in the wrong because you don't enjoy strangers getting off to a woman you're pursuing or might have a thing for? I'm going to bed lol.
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She is sad because you disparaged something she does. That's not saying "you're in the wrong for not getting off on it" - neither do I - but it is akin to saying her taste in music is bad or similar.
But dev has already confirmed you can make her stop later, once you got enough trust/relation/however you want to call it.
Well it’s a good thing she’s not forced onto the players. I know some dudes may got off on having a Gf that’s a camgirl but I don’t, she’s not even wearing a mask, I wouldn’t want to be out in public and guys going “Hey I know you” but that’s my opinion. Btw Serra is the best girl.
It’s not like the mc called her a filthy slut or insulted her he basically said that this isn’t my thing in which he has the right to. Stripping in front of the entire internet is a big deal for guys obviously.
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Yeah with a girl you have been living with for over 10 years, that trust and relation should already be there as a brother like figure even if have to build it into something sexual and more later. Besides should she be not more disappointed if he went yippy, my sis like char is a cam whore and sells her body through a screen for money destroying about half her future career options and making herself easily blackmailable in future. There is a big difference between streaming and showing some cleavage to spice up interest and being a sex worker. Now most people would be kinda surprised if you were glad for them over that.
Now being non judgmental but concerned might be appreciated, but thinking it is great? If that as a girl would not send you a big red flag about that guy and that he has no interest in your best interests, what else should?
It is just a pity Lilian seemed a great girl until that revelation and even with she is not bad, just going into a relation with someone that has no brains and thinks selling her body for money on the internet is acceptable and smart move is a bad move at best beyond fucking
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Well said, I don’t know what world some of these people are living in but naturally if a guy have the hots for a girl, goes to pursue said girl and finds out she’s a sex worker more than likely that guy will run the other way.Yeah with a girl you have been living with for over 10 years, that trust and relation should already be there as a brother like figure even if have to build it into something sexual and more later. Besides should she be not more disappointed if he went yippy, my sis like char is a cam whore and sells her body through a screen for money destroying about half her future career options and making herself easily blackmailable in future. There is a big difference between streaming and showing some cleavage to spice up interest and being a sex worker. Now most people would be kinda surprised if you were glad for them over that.
Now being non judgmental but concerned might be appreciated, but thinking it is great? If that as a girl would not send you a big red flag about that guy, what else should?
It is just a pity Lilian seemed a great girl until that revelation and even with she is not bad, just going into a relation with someone that has no brains and thinks selling her body for money is acceptable and smart move is a bad move at best beyond fucking
You aren't dating Lillian at this point, you don't really have a right to control what she does with her body
Like I said in the future when dating is possible you can get her to stop.
Like I said in the future when dating is possible you can get her to stop.
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I disagree with the "even if" part. That's a completely new beast - of course you can and will build on the trust and may skip certain "getting to know" parts. However, I was referring to however you would call it in game. Your influence as a trusted childhood friend may not be sufficient, but your influence as a love interest might be. But you have to build that first.
Well, if it were that easy, the whole trade wouldn't exist in real life now, would it? And some girls make a lot of money, others rise to fame.Besides should she be not more disappointed if he went yippy, my sis like char is a cam whore and sells her body through a screen for money destroying about half her future career options and making herself easily blackmailable in future. There is a big difference between streaming and showing some cleavage to spice up interest and being a sex worker. Now most people would be kinda surprised if you were glad for them over that.
Don't get me wrong, I personally agree with your sentiments, any many of the repercussions are true, also let's not forget the staggering suicide rate of people who were - in one way or another - getting paid for sexuality. But this theoretical knowledge does not prevent people who see the easy money or have a certain streak to join the ranks.
There's many a man lusting after famous porn stars or just the cam girl next door. And they probably want a real relationship, too. This is a "I wouldn't join a club that takes me as a member" situation: Thinking along those lines girls wouldn't date a guy who would date them. It doesn't work that way.Now being non judgmental but concerned might be appreciated, but thinking it is great? If that as a girl would not send you a big red flag about that guy and that he has no interest in your best interests, what else should?
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Edit to add: a similar logic applies to us. What is the impression people will have about people wandering around a porn game forum with all kinds of kinks? What would the girl you have the hots for think? Sure, you're not selling your own body. Some may be accepting. Some may even like it themselves. But the majority may just think "creepy perv" and run away while she can.
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Friends also have an opinion especially in a situation where they have been living in a sibling like relation for years. You may not own her body, then again you do not do own a girl or her body when dating or married to her either it is still her body and right to do with it as she wants to in the end. Just that those choices might have consequences on your relation is another thing.
That does not mean the opinion of a brother would not count, maybe even more as that of a boyfriend that is likely a transient passenger in your life unless he is the one you marry and with the amount of those that break up even that forever is kinda limited, while your brother will be there for the rest of your life, unless have a bad fallout and normally more interested in your best interest as a guy just wanting into your panties.
We're back on Lillian's cam shows again? Alright so.
1) It fits her personality/kink. She's an exhibitionist.
2) You don't have to watch the shows and you have the option of getting her to stop eventually.
3) You don't have to like the idea, but other people enjoy her that way, or want to support the Dev's vision, and it's not going away.
4) The outrage, and the terms like 'camwhore' feel like kink-shaming to me. Maybe not for people who like the content, but certainly for people who would get off on being like Lillian. Enjoying being seen, getting off on exciting others that way does not in any way indicate there's anything wrong with a person. You don't have to be into it, but you don't have to call the people in the industry derogatory names either. While it's not wrong to say that it can hurt a person's public image, and limit career choices and such - since that's true - the reason that that is true is because the way that people 'society at large' look at people in the industry is wrong.
If it's not your thing that's fine. If it makes the character less appealing for you, I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm sorry it diminishes your enjoyment of the game. I just ask that you respect that your perspective isn't the only one fans of the game have, and that the Dev is doing his best to cater to both sides with the option to get rid of it later, and I ask that you have a little more respect for those that have kinks that make doing this kind of thing appealing.
1) It fits her personality/kink. She's an exhibitionist.
2) You don't have to watch the shows and you have the option of getting her to stop eventually.
3) You don't have to like the idea, but other people enjoy her that way, or want to support the Dev's vision, and it's not going away.
4) The outrage, and the terms like 'camwhore' feel like kink-shaming to me. Maybe not for people who like the content, but certainly for people who would get off on being like Lillian. Enjoying being seen, getting off on exciting others that way does not in any way indicate there's anything wrong with a person. You don't have to be into it, but you don't have to call the people in the industry derogatory names either. While it's not wrong to say that it can hurt a person's public image, and limit career choices and such - since that's true - the reason that that is true is because the way that people 'society at large' look at people in the industry is wrong.
If it's not your thing that's fine. If it makes the character less appealing for you, I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm sorry it diminishes your enjoyment of the game. I just ask that you respect that your perspective isn't the only one fans of the game have, and that the Dev is doing his best to cater to both sides with the option to get rid of it later, and I ask that you have a little more respect for those that have kinks that make doing this kind of thing appealing.
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Camming is not exhibitionism, it is a business about selling your body for money that normally includes way further action as just showing off your body on a medium where those images will never disappear again after being uploaded. That is something else as someone liking to show, even in a one or one stream though that is dangerous enough, off their body or even dancing in a reputable strip club though that last can have plenty of downsides already. It is business not a kink and though can be very profitable for a short time, well it dries up when get older or no harder content and will then limit you options to make regular money, let alone the high income you would have gotten used to.
So fact she in game reacts bad if you are not super hell yeah well that makes it even worse., since that would be the only correct reaction for any brother that MC is more or less to her instead of a horny perv.
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The future doesn't matter because her being a camgirl disqualifies her for the role of girlfriend so it's not important what you can do after she is the MCs girlfriend.
I never said that the act of doing camshows was a kink. I said it fit her kink of exhibitionism. People who are exhibitionists are more likely to be part of the camshow industry, and more likely to enjoy doing it, as she obviously does. I also said that people who have said that it can have negative repercussions on her life aren't wrong. That's just reality. I also said that the societal attitude that makes that true is wrong, however.
If it disqualifies Lillian from being your favorite LI then it does so? They aren't all going to be perfect for you.
Serra talks weird and is obsessed with imagination stuff, turns off some players
Alex drinks a lot, is older with an obvious mommy angle, turns off some players
Celeste is a Tsundere, turns off some players
Gracie is cheerful to an extreme extent, naive, turns off some players
They all have flaws or whatever. They aren't written to all be perfect for every single person. If you dislike that part of her, then stop pursuing her. If that one thing is enough for you to dislike the whole game, then stop playing the game.
Serra talks weird and is obsessed with imagination stuff, turns off some players
Alex drinks a lot, is older with an obvious mommy angle, turns off some players
Celeste is a Tsundere, turns off some players
Gracie is cheerful to an extreme extent, naive, turns off some players
They all have flaws or whatever. They aren't written to all be perfect for every single person. If you dislike that part of her, then stop pursuing her. If that one thing is enough for you to dislike the whole game, then stop playing the game.
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With that last I can partially or fully agree, though to be honest I do not see the fact that someone finds it ok to exchange sexual favors for money a great character trait in a prospective partner, sex should be given freely and for own fun or not at all in my opinion.
I can absolutely respect the idea that you consider putting on a cam show as being sex. I'm not sure I agree, but that's almost certainly why we have differing opinions on the subject as a whole, and I can certainly understand the perspective.
Again, I'm sorry that it diminishes your enjoyment of the character. It'd be great if someone could make a game that 100% is amazing for everyone, but it's just not possible. Hopefully other aspects of the game are still worth playing it for you.
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None of those other worse sides are nearly as bad as the one from Lilian though and it being an unavoidable one. Now if she was just an exhibitionist it would be something else, she is something else though. But fine, I will stay away if you prefer that and think camming is a normal thing to do and a great example for other girls to do with no serious dangers and downsides and just a normal kink and slight indiscretion........