Ren'Py Abandoned Sylphine [v.024] [Glacerose]

[mordred93]

Fact is, even if the medical shit is valid it doesn't really matter to 99% of us. It's not a question of caring or not caring; I don't jerk off to other men's mental health issues.

I used to support maybe 10-20 creators at a time. Now I support a handful. I exclusively support creators who are *currently* producing content at a satisfactory pace. I don't care if a creator takes 10 years and 15 remakes to put out a game, but I will not involve myself in the hype, nor will I support them during that process. I pay for results, and if a creator stops producing results I stop supporting them.

I also stop supporting them the second I read anything that sounds like an excuse. Apologies are fine, excuses just piss me off.

It's important to reward good creators. It's equally important to cut support for bad creators. Part of why this whole system works is we can browse here, try a bunch of different games, and find creators who suit our individual tastes. This allows us to find content we want while also allowing creators to market their products on an open forum. The whole system starts to break down if they don't get rewarded for good content, or if they easily get rewarded for bad behavior.

While I technically could, I never support a dev with money that in the process of making a game, I support them only after the game has been delivered. When there is a "completed" tag and it looks good will I support them. The one thing I see a lot of, is people who think it is all about money. You don't get into software development to be rich, as you only make money on the back end (typically), when its done, and people like it. The rarified 0.1% which can make a living based on their subscriptions, good for them. The rest of the 99.9%, sorry, that is life.

That being said, there are a few games I will help out with my time. I write walkthroughs and image guides to multiple games that I like. My time is worth a lot (I bill at $500/hr IRL), and if I spend a couple hours a month writing a walkthrough or updating a guide I created, you get the point.

 

[mordred93]

then what do you think of games like city of broken dreamers ? last update 2023-06-24 yet the game is extremely well made. basically you would be supporting and getting nothing for months on end. what do you think about those games ? take ages but give great result

There are some games, which have excellent content cycles, which people are willing to pay a good amount for. If you consistently add new content, that people feel is worth it, then fine, get paid. "Summer's Gone" is another. The Dev released 1 or 2 releases a year, but each release is over an hours worth of game play, with a great story, and awesome graphics.

I will say that some games wane over time, even with a great story, and good graphics. If the story gets too hard to follow in between the times you play, and it becomes just not worth it to follow any more. Being a DIK and WVM have gone the route for me. I just don't care any more, and will maybe play again when the are completed.

 

[AntiVeraX]

While I technically could, I never support a dev with money that in the process of making a game, I support them only after the game has been delivered. When there is a "completed" tag and it looks good will I support them. The one thing I see a lot of, is people who think it is all about money. You don't get into software development to be rich, as you only make money on the back end (typically), when its done, and people like it. The rarified 0.1% which can make a living based on their subscriptions, good for them. The rest of the 99.9%, sorry, that is life.

That being said, there are a few games I will help out with my time. I write walkthroughs and image guides to multiple games that I like. My time is worth a lot (I bill at $500/hr IRL), and if I spend a couple hours a month writing a walkthrough or updating a guide I created, you get the point.

Dude, if you would be billing for that amount you would be at the minimum a DA and you wouldn't be bothering to write 'guides' to low-class/budget ren'py porn games.

 

[mordred93]

personally i think that there are some execptions to any rule, like how most games with low amount of patrons get abandon but some do keep going (rise of the crime lord is one like this, the patrons amount was once below 10 (in about version 0.4) but it keeps going even now)

Not every dev is in it for the money, as not every dev needs the money to survive. Some people live at home, have a day job, etc. The game creation is a side job. Look at ILS Productions, they are in their 40s, have a day job, and their two games have been side jobs.

 

[mordred93]

Dude, if you would be billing for that amount you would be at the minimum a DA and you wouldn't be bothering to write 'guides' to low-class/budget ren'py porn games.

I don't know what a DA is in this context (and google didn't help, unless you mean District Attorney). I work in IT Management, and consulting, so not a lawyer, but own my own company and do many contracts. I have to do something with my free time, why not enjoy some porn games? I mean, I am single and live alone, 50, my kids are 30 and live on their own, own my house, and am almost near early retirement due to saving my salary for many years. I like to work, and spend 12-16 hours a day in front of a computer. I have liked computers since I was 8 when I learned to program in BASIC and played games after school (Oregon Trail, Lemonade Stand, Lode Runner, etc.).

Edit: Clarity and spelling

 

[BayJay47]

then what do you think of games like city of broken dreamers ? last update 2023-06-24 yet the game is extremely well made. basically you would be supporting and getting nothing for months on end. what do you think about those games ? take ages but give great result

I have subscribed to him in the past, actually. I want *regular* updates, not necessarily frequent ones, and not necessarily content updates. Progress reports are fine, for example Light of My Life or whatever it's called has maybe one update every 12-14 months, but the updates are substantial. I don't support monthly, but I still consider it a good project especially if you like that kinda sappy stuff. Anyways, the only reason I'm not currently supporting Philly is because he isn't in my current top 5. Depraved Awakening is one of my favorite projects of all time. Same with Dr. Pinkcake. There are many fantastic content creators who I do not support every month, not because I dislike them, but because I limit myself to projects I currently have greater interest in. If I listed all the projects I consider worthy of supporting my sig would be obnoxiously long.

Basically, I don't mind paying for high quality content. I don't even mind supporting creators who are actively creating high quality content. I just need to feel that the quality and quantity of content I'm receiving is roughly in line with my contributions. Shit, I dumped my sub to lewdlab for like a year and a half or more but when he rebuilt his game and released a whole bunch of content I re-subbed for a few months. I don't hold grudges, I just don't want to get ripped off.

 

[Kylemnb]

I'd pay someone to continue this story as long as it wasn't the og dev, Seems like they won't do much.

 

[snow123789456]

this game had a lot of protentional.

 

[cxx]

this game had a lot of protentional.

sure but wrong dev.

 

[Golden Trump]

sure but wrong dev.

Dude you are everywhere ....... When was the last time you touched grass?

 

[cxx]

Dude you are everywhere ....... When was the last time you touched grass?

today. still quite frozen.

 

[FreakingBananas]

well i came bacck to see if i can get more profile pictures and find out this game dead...sadge, well if reincharotica came back maybe this man will, but meh lil poop of update then dead for couple years thats the name of the game

 

[that1guyno1knows]

well i came bacck to see if i can get more profile pictures and find out this game dead...sadge, well if reincharotica came back maybe this man will, but meh lil poop of update then dead for couple years thats the name of the game

Glace coming back wouldn't be too shocking. Glace finishing a game, that would be shocking.

 

[cxx]

well i came bacck to see if i can get more profile pictures and find out this game dead...sadge, well if reincharotica came back maybe this man will, but meh lil poop of update then dead for couple years thats the name of the game

advertising is bad.

anyways rein's case was different than this, rein's dev had personal reasons to abandon project long ago while scamrose just keeps collecting patrons monies.

 

[FreakingBananas]

advertising is bad.

anyways rein's case was different than this, rein's dev had personal reasons to abandon project long ago while scamrose just keeps collecting patrons monies.

i just give people benefit of doubt, we thought the same thing about rein before his coming back patron post

 

[cxx]

i just give people benefit of doubt, we thought the same thing about rein before his coming back patron post

well glamrose has history of abandoning projects and then remaking those with same name or new name.

dunno if rein's dev paused patreon payments or not.

 

[cxx]

well that'd make him master of remakes.

 

[Pudthumper]

He says, while having Ripples in his signature... that is currently being remade/remastered.

News to me. Forgot I even had a signature.

 

[MrBenny]

Hmm...I just played another title (Serenity) which has one of the main characters (always a bitchy, angry pink haired girl) from this title. At least a copy of her character was saved from the dreaded developer abandonment graveyard...which so many other good titles end up in (It seems the Honey Select terms of use can hurt the dev's potential, marketing their work).

RIP...Sylphine, it was a fun ride while it lasted. (I still replay this title, like I do with many others that ended up in the graveyard of abandonment.)

Regards.

 

[cxx]

well 1.5 year's worth of updates.