Ren'Py Abandoned Sylphine [v.024] [Glacerose]

[DA22]

If it disqualifies Lillian from being your favorite LI then it does so? They aren't all going to be perfect for you.

Serra talks weird and is obsessed with imagination stuff, turns off some players

Alex drinks a lot, is older with an obvious mommy angle, turns off some players

Celeste is a Tsundere, turns off some players

Gracie is cheerful to an extreme extent, naive, turns off some players


They all have flaws or whatever. They aren't written to all be perfect for every single person. If you dislike that part of her, then stop pursuing her. If that one thing is enough for you to dislike the whole game, then stop playing the game.

None of those other worse sides are nearly as bad as the one from Lilian though and it being an unavoidable one. Now if she was just an exhibitionist it would be something else, she is something else though. But fine, I will stay away if you prefer that and think camming is a normal thing to do and a great example for other girls to do with no serious dangers and downsides and just a normal kink and slight indiscretion........

 

[The One and Only Bob]

Lillian does what she does because she wants to do it and doesn't require the approval of anybody. That, frankly, is the most realistic part of the entire game.

I don't hear people quoting psychological studies of the negative consequences of a guy having a harem of 20+ girls, all of whom are dependent on his, and only his, dick.

 

[DA22]

Lillian does what she does because she wants to do it and doesn't require the approval of anybody. That, frankly, is the most realistic part of the entire game.

I don't hear people quoting psychological studies of the negative consequences of a guy having a harem of 20+ girls, all of whom are dependent on his, and only his, dick.

Nice strawman. A harem with 20 wives IRL is extreme rare though, camgirls ending up very badly if at least financially on the other hand is more rule then exception ...... Camming is not something to be glorified.

 

[Cartageno]

While we're talking about realism,

So fact she in game reacts bad if you are not super hell yeah well that makes it even worse., since that would be the only correct reaction for any brother that MC is more or less to her instead of a horny perv.

young people (men or women) always appreciate the wisdom of their family. There have been no cases ever of them being angry at their life choices being questioned.

I am not saying being a camgirl is a good choice (even though there are some that indeed only do nudity, many of them will move on, as you say, to more stuff to keep their audience interested). I am not saying that any family member or close friend shouldn't try to talk her out of it. The thing I say is: it is realistic that she will react negatively and not enthused about the wisdom installed upon her. Nobody likes being critizised, whether it is rightly or wrongly. Some do cope better and adjust when hearing good arguments - but they will still not like it. Others cannot stand any criticism at all, however obviously valid, however minor, and will have a full on Karen tantrum. Most are inbetween, leaning towards the first extreme. But they will still not necessarily be happy.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

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[HogRocket]

I'm against Lillian camgirling because it takes time that she could be spending naked with ME!

 

[Dragon59]

It's always interesting when some people try to take the moral high ground in regards to an AVN/porn game.

I have a number of friends who have been camgirls or more conventional sex workers. Some women have seen it as a spiritual calling as part of their Pagan path. I know even more who don't do live streams, but enjoy posting pictures an videos on Fetlife as well as having an OnlyFans and/or ManyVids account.

The women I know all made those decisions on their own and do not regret them. The talk of suicide rates--as another alluded to, those are much more likely to be the result of negative pressure from people outside judging them rather than their chosen activity itself. It's having to deal with judgemental individuals who claim to know what is better for them, who put them down for their choices that will increase likelihood of depression and suicidal thoughts. We even have a developer of these games who recently had to walk away because the hostility he was receiving was exacerbating his depression.

Most of us "sell our bodies, ourselves" in one way or another as part of having a job. Why is sex work so much worse than acting, athletics, backbreaking physical labor, or mind numbing office work?

Let Lillian be Lillian instead of trying to shape her into someone else. Last I checked, this is not a manipulation, mind control game.

 

[House Of Black]

You aren't dating Lillian at this point, you don't really have a right to control what she does with her body

Like I said in the future when dating is possible you can get her to stop.

Lol that makes it so much better...

 

[Wicked Garden]

That damn Wicked Garden voicing his opinion, while leaving some moist in the process.

Here me, no here me clearly. This is MY personal preference on what I want in a potential Love interest, again if you get off on the fact that others fap to a future LI, then more power to do, but don't you dare act as if something is wrong with us guys that have different standards. Furthermore comparing the flaws in the other characters to what Lillian is doing is completely ridiculous to me.

"This one is angry, oh and this one is a little too bubbly, this one has speech problem and finally this one strips and fucks online in front of strangers." Not the same thing.

Her content is avoidable, which is all I ask, but the "It's her body" committee sees this as kink shaming, which is also complete and utter bullshit. But I'm moving on from this topic, I've said how felt, which I'm not gonna double down on and will proceed with the games content.

 

[BlameApple]

This is the weirdest argument.

 

[Deleted member 3036029]

This is the weirdest argument.

No not really

 

[Glacerose]

There's people who don't like it, people who do, and people who don't care.

My question is, why the fuck does it matter? There's other characters.

I get it, some people think it makes a girl a whore, some are just insecure and are projecting that insecurity on a fictional character, but I don't see a problem with a LI being a camgirl and it's my game.

If you want a LI that's not, go after a different girl, go make your own game or play something else.


Edit - Imagine your future real life partner knows you waste time bitching about a virtual girl and calling her a whore on a porn game forum.
Like I said, we all have flaws

 

[Cartageno]

Here me, no here me clearly. This is MY personal preference on what I want in a potential Love interest, again if you get off on the fact that others fap to a future LI, then more power to do, but don't you dare act as if something is wrong with us guys that have different standards.

This wasn't what you were saying though. You weren't saying "I don't like this content, this is not to my personal preference". You were questioning her reasoning (respectively the reasoning of the dev to include this content)

(...) Like what's the point of her character being a camwhore? I could see if she needed money or something, but for what? Out of boredom? For attention? (...)

After that you were complaining about the character in the game not liking your approach

(...) Then there's the choice you're given after her show where she asks Mc how he liked her stream, if you select that you're not into it she gets sad and appears to mope. Like what? You're now in the wrong because you don't enjoy strangers getting off to a woman you're pursuing or might have a thing for? (...)

In essence you were trying to reason what is "YOUR personal preference" should be valid universally. There is no logic in her being a camgirl. She should not react negatively if you disapprove. Points you can make. Others disagree. That is what is being argued.

Are you in the wrong for not liking it? Certainly not. However, that is not the question. The question you posed and being discussed is not whether we like it, the question is how realistic the different aspects of her behavior are.

 

[Eric_Draven]

There's people who don't like it, people who do, and people who don't care.

My question is, why the fuck does it matter? There's other characters.

I get it, some people think it makes a girl a whore, some are just insecure and are projecting that insecurity on a fictional character, but I don't see a problem with a LI being a camgirl and it's my game.

If you want a LI that's not, go after a different girl, go make your own game or play something else.


Edit - Imagine your future real life partner knows you waste time bitching about a virtual girl and calling her a whore on a porn game forum.
Like I said, we all have flaws

Lashing out at others because of difference in opinion is never a good thing, especially coming from a Dev.

 

[DanThaMan]

Lashing out at others because of difference in opinion is never a good thing, especially coming from a Dev.

The dev doesn't like criticism so he says the ol' classic 'make your own game' line on us.

 

[Glacerose]

Lashing out at others because of difference in opinion is never a good thing, especially coming from a Dev.

It ceases to be a difference of opinion when people are claiming their opinion as the correct one and shaming the people who either like or are indifferent to the in game material.

But yes, I agree, I should've kept my mouth shut and will keep out of it.

 

[Glacerose]

The dev doesn't like criticism so he says the ol' classic 'make your own game' line on us.

If I had a real problem with criticism I wouldn't be checking f95.
I just am sick of the Lillian camgirl argument. This is like the fourth time it's happened. It's in the game, it's old news.

 

[Ayhsel]

If I had a real problem with criticism I wouldn't be checking f95.
I just am sick of the Lillian camgirl argument. This is like the fourth time it's happened. It's in the game, it's old news.

I still have to play this game as sandbox are a strong turn off for me.. but I've been following for a while now and I heard about the Camgirl drama from a friend.. Am I the only one that finds it hot? Can we encourage her to keep doing it?

To the NTR police: facepalm me all you want, my definition of NTR is way more strict than yours and I don't get jealous from random guys on the internet hitting on my girl. For fuck's sake, I had once a guy claiming MC was NTRed by a vibrator... after that.. I simply cannot take the NTR police serious.

 

[Niv-Mizzet the Firemind]

For what it's worth, I had absolutely zero problems with Lillian being a camgirl. I think it quite fits her character.
I don't get why people just don't skip her if they feel so strongly about that.

 

[Behappy69]

I all like the game as it is so keep up the great work.