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How the fak is it an improvement if the old art was much better ffs
This news from patreon regarding your first point.You should always quote an announcement so that people have a point of reference to go to. Memories are hazy and this genre is highly volatile - so it's best to be as clear as possible.
- I don't see anything referring to your first question - please clarify with either a link or direct quote.
- The second sounds accusatory rather than inquisitive - as if the dev maliciously fouled up something in previous update.
- The third question references a mistake by the dev that was corrected quite quickly once the fanbase pointed it out.
As for your second point, I asked because referring to the post, the Mary and Darnell scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm asking if they are any changes based on the story progression, or are they going to stick to the plan they have made earlier.Hello everyoneYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
The work is going exceptionally well, I have found a new plug-in for the game engine which is helping to speed things along nicely. I've mostly been switching between posing and creating the artwork to help move things along. (It can really burn me out just sticking to doing one too long).
Still not sure on a date yet, but I will try my very best to get a pinpoint on an estimate when I can!
Lostraven will now be working on the Chantelle script. We thought we'd talk to you about the future of Taffy Tales a little on a pretty hot button topic, (yes, that one). For too long we've left a certain portion of our fanbase in the dark on what's happening with NTR, and when it's coming, and while we've still got a longgggg way to go before it's introduction, (with Three Mega updates and our Supreme Pie update to come first), we felt it's time to finally talk about what's the plan to integrate it.
I can now confirm, the Chantelle update will bring in NTR.
WAIT WAIT! Before you throw stones at me, let me explain the plan...
The Chantelle Script is going to be a double script combined into one update, one for 'Netori' on the main route, and one for straight-up 'NTR' on the NTR Route.
It will allow on the 'main' route, the chance for players to steal Chantelle and humiliate Darnell as your conflict with him continues to spiral into chaos. It will have a heavy 'Netori' focus.
BUT, the other half of the script, will begin the NTR route (for players choosing that route). Where Darnell will 'steal' one of the girls.
So, the choice will be yours, humiliate Darnell, or be humiliated by him, Taffy Tales is all about choice, and tailoring the experience to what suits you.
You'll never be forced onto the NTR route, it's 'one choice' in-game that basically says 'Do you want to play the NTR route or not?' That is it, if you end up on the NTR route, you chose it willingly.
Well, on another note guysWe have another little teaser for you guys! You know who really needs some love around here? A certain cute blonde whose more 'effeminate' than most!
-The Taffy Tales Team
Yes that has been clear from the part where we chose to lie or tell the truth to the doc. That isn't my question.Overall, looking at the developer's discord:
Taffy Tales currently has planned Three Major routes.
- The main default route involves the MC either seducing, 'stealing', or romancing the other characters. You will not get cucked.
- The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
- And the third route is 'The 'NTR route,' but this is entirely avoidable, you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again.
Thank you! You quoted something from September 2019. The post I shared from the discord was made January 2020, so unless they change direction -- "you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again."This news from patreon regarding your first point.
As for your second point, I asked because referring to the post, the Mary and Darnell scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm asking if they are any changes based on the story progression, or are they going to stick to the plan they have made earlier.
Yes that has been clear from the part where we chose to lie or tell the truth to the doc. That isn't my question.
I am asking if they are going with a direct Non-NTR and an NTR/Sharing route from the first choice you make in the phonecall or not. Or will the Mary and Darnell kind of choice keeps popping through the storyline as we progress.
The phonecall decides if the NTR route is enabled or not. Going to the doc will get rid / subdue the alter ego of MC, making him the cuck.I am asking if they are going with a direct Non-NTR and an NTR/Sharing route from the first choice you make in the phonecall or not. Or will the Mary and Darnell kind of choice keeps popping through the storyline as we progress.
Feels like you're missing my point so I'm gonna say it here. I'm not doing the "NTR/Non-NTR" flamewar over here. I think you're assuming that I am and referenced this topic "is volatile" because of that. If people are bothered by a question just answer it or ignore it. Simple as that. I'm asking about Choices through the storyline. Are they going to keep showing up after you made your choice during the phonecall with the doc. I used Mary/Darnell as a reference to my question. I'm not bothered if there is NTR or Not im a game where its completely optional.You're beating a nearly year old dead horse about Mary/Darnell. It was a fuck up, they admitted it, and they quickly fixed it. This is a game that is in development - hiccups happen.
So are they going back to the originally planned story? Choices during the phonecall and thats it? Just that one time? Because that post you mentioned plus the dead horse i dragged just make it to three times the game asked us if we want to go for NTR/Sharing path. This is why I'm a little confused.As for Chantelle, directly --
In October of 2019, LostRaven stated that he had "Finished the Chantelle script" and that the "Chantelle update would be split between the two. (half main update, half NTR)." In March 2020, LostRaven stated the storyline for "Chantelle is planned after Tiffany" and that "Chantelle hasn't had sex with anyone in the game yet." In June 2020, he states that the supporters poll result showed "Danny and his sister beat Chantelle and the first NTR route" for the who gets updated before the other. There are a few other statements made by LostRaven - but not many and mainly corroborate what I have already quoted.
Based upon the September 2019 post you shared, the January 2020 Discord post and the quotes I found above, it sounds as though we still may have quite awhile to wait for the Chantelle update. When the NTR route does come - it sounds like you get asked just once and if you choose not to take that third route, you won't get asked again.
Yeah I know that NTR or Harem path is from that phonecall. I didn't know helping Darnell would also be a flag to route change. Thanks for that man.The phonecall decides if the NTR route is enabled or not. Going to the doc will get rid / subdue the alter ego of MC, making him the cuck.
Similarly, helping Darnell after hes bleeding in some alleyway will enable the friendship route, where you can be bros and banh hoes together (if you want).
Both NTR and friendship routes are quite far away anyway. According to polls, more patrons prefer to be chads instead of cucks, which is why the NTR content keeps getting delayed. I guess that the dev is now looking to complete the main route, and then adding the NTR and friendship.
Danny's sister has not appeared in the game at this time. Only Danny and his cosplay character Vivian.Do you have to enable the trap content to get with danny's sister?
I think the reason for our miscommunication is that the storyline and development are not near completion. What you lay out in your supposition of the three paths sounds viable, at this time - but it could be implemented differently.Feels like you're missing my point so I'm gonna say it here. I'm not doing the "NTR/Non-NTR" flamewar over here. I think you're assuming that I am and referenced this topic "is volatile" because of that. If people are bothered by a question just answer it or ignore it. Simple as that. I'm asking about Choices through the storyline. Are they going to keep showing up after you made your choice during the phonecall with the doc. I used Mary/Darnell as a reference to my question. I'm not bothered if there is NTR or Not im a game where its completely optional.
So are they going back to the originally planned story? Choices during the phonecall and thats it? Just that one time? Because that post you mentioned plus the dead horse i dragged just make it to three times the game asked us if we want to go for NTR/Sharing path. This is why I'm a little confused.
My thought was that once you picked the choice from the phonecall was, you are commiting into a single playthrough unhindered be that NTR or Not. So that is why I'm asking since it still being prompted after making your choice. And wether or not the dev plans to change the gameplay in the future to look exactly like the other Harem or Netorare game where you get to pick and chose which girl to keep or not.
Yeah I know that NTR or Harem path is from that phonecall. I didn't know helping Darnell would also be a flag to route change. Thanks for that man.
So far this is how i'm understanding it. I'm just going to assume Mary/Darnell and Chantelle choices are for the players who want to go on a Sharing path? Since we can't leave Darnell after he was being beaten up? (unless i missed some updates where you can actually leave him)
- So you have to lie to doc, then leave Darnell in the ditch if you wanna play the Harem path.
- Lie to doc and help Darnell for the Sharing path.
- Truth to doc and help Darnell for the NTR path.
thanks, because I play on Android, no place name description appears on my screen, really appreciateStart at 4:51
"most people", I guess I missed that poll, I would love to see the Stats gathered from it, (Sounds to me like "very straight" might be code for "homiphobic" and/or "insecure", so I guess it could be true for a significant percentage), personally I want to see more spit roasts and gangbangs particularly in corruption games, and what is the point in having a harem of sex slaves if you can't pimp them out from time to time (for both fun and profit). I'm curious what that makes me? Am I gay now?I can't remember exactly which comedian said it but he had a bit about threesomes in porn. He talks about skipping a scene with more than one man but stopping to watch a lesbian scene. When his girlfriend who's watching with him calls him out on his hypocrisy he has a simple answer. 'Every straight man has a one penis per fantasy limit.' It's not a matter of masculinity. It's a simple matter of sexuality. Most people are very straight. So they're not going to going to be able to get off when more that one dick is involved.
I doubt it, I imagine danny's sister will appear for the folk who can't live with the trap route,Do you have to enable the trap content to get with danny's sister?
I got a feeling that this is exactly how it will play out, I personally hope for it to be implimented case by case, for example I want to own the milfs and Becca (Owning them means I CHOOSE wether to share them, not wether they are exclusive to my cock), the rest I don't really care about, I'd like to have the option of leaving them for the wolfs (as long as I get to watch), I'm so sick of games making you define shit before you get any context.......
So far this is how i'm understanding it. I'm just going to assume Mary/Darnell and Chantelle choices are for the players who want to go on a Sharing path? Since we can't leave Darnell after he was being beaten up? (unless i missed some updates where you can actually leave him)
- So you have to lie to doc, then leave Darnell in the ditch if you wanna play the Harem path.
- Lie to doc and help Darnell for the Sharing path.
- Truth to doc and help Darnell for the NTR path.
Look up the Kinsey Scale. It's not the be all and end all but it's a good starting point. I want those things as well but I wouldn't call myself gay or bi or pan. I think it's called heteroflexible. Again it's not insecure to be who you are. Maybe homophobic sure."most people", I guess I missed that poll, I would love to see the Stats gathered from it, (Sounds to me like "very straight" might be code for "homiphobic" and/or "insecure", so I guess it could be true for a significant percentage), personally I want to see more spit roasts and gangbangs particularly in corruption games, and what is the point in having a harem of sex slaves if you can't pimp them out from time to time (for both fun and profit). I'm curious what that makes me? Am I gay now?
PS: can anyone tell me why notifications havent been working for me on this thread, I just had to read 5 pages of posts because todays notification was the first since early december, and that was a "someone liked one of your posts" type, I'm still getting "replied to thread" notifications on other threads I'm watching, just not this one.
The Kinsey scale relates to a theory of sexual fluidity, not to a specific survey/poll, I do get a little triggered when people cite things like "most people", "everyone" and "normal" without data to back it up, it wasn't all about the trigger though, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing the results of a respectible study regarding sexual bias, seems like one should be viable now we have a better expectation of privacy and less pressure to follow conservative lifestyles. Just a matter of figuring out who might be unbiased enough to conduct an honest one without trying to push an agenda.Look up the Kinsey Scale. It's not the be all and end all but it's a good starting point. I want those things as well but I wouldn't call myself gay or bi or pan. I think it's called heteroflexible. Again it's not insecure to be who you are. Maybe homophobic sure.
Hopefully a mod or admin sees your message and can fix that. Maybe unwatch and watch again.
While the Kinsey Scale opened up the minds of society toward a range of sexualities, not just Hetero-, Bi-, Homo- ... a major problem with it is self-report bias due to social desirability, social conditioning, pleasure denial, lack of diverse sexual experience opportunities, and other factors. This is hinted when you look at the original study when less than 10% of the males stated they were strictly gay, but over 1 in 3 stated they had experienced orgasm in what would be considered gay sexual situations. Again - this is self reporting and so there is an automatic understanding of bias that sociologists always attempt to account for. We have seen similar bias in other polls in the past decade of a different, but as volatile, nature as sexuality.Look up the Kinsey Scale. It's not the be all and end all but it's a good starting point. I want those things as well but I wouldn't call myself gay or bi or pan. I think it's called heteroflexible. Again it's not insecure to be who you are. Maybe homophobic sure.
Hopefully a mod or admin sees your message and can fix that. Maybe unwatch and watch again.
Yeah if the dev plans to do the game that way it does give flexibility and choices that would actually cater to all routes easily. I just hope its as simple as a single prompt wether you want this girl or not ( like the danny prompt) and not too overcomplicated like the other harem VNs where they have this "point" tracking. Then forcing me to rely on walkthroughs or walkthrough mod to avoid making wrong choices.I got a feeling that this is exactly how it will play out, I personally hope for it to be implimented case by case, for example I want to own the milfs and Becca (Owning them means I CHOOSE wether to share them, not wether they are exclusive to my cock), the rest I don't really care about, I'd like to have the option of leaving them for the wolfs (as long as I get to watch), I'm so sick of games making you define shit before you get any context.
And sure the Docs call definitely makes sense in a "red" vs "blue" key moment, IMO there should still be cuck/sharing scenes available for those who want to let it happen. The best NTR scenes come because the MC fucked something up, not because it is predefined for the benefit of the squeamish.
Having to replay from the docs phone call just to see that pissy Mom NTR scene would have pissed me all the way off.
Yeah, it almost always sucks when points are used, they are rarely more than a smoke screen for a linear system,Yeah if the dev plans to do the game that way it does give flexibility and choices that would actually cater to all routes easily. I just hope its as simple as a single prompt wether you want this girl or not ( like the danny prompt) and not too overcomplicated like the other harem VNs where they have this "point" tracking. Then forcing me to rely on walkthroughs or walkthrough mod to avoid making wrong choices.
Yeah having an option like that would totally make the game a whole lot easy for Non-NTR fans however i would like to have see which girls are available before i decide it. As for the Danny prompt in the game you are given the option to choose wether to go along a Danny route or not based from the picture in his room if i remember correctly. Now I imagine the game would be having more options like those for every single girls (or boys) so we cn decide who to keep and who to ignore. Its presented with a warning as well what the choice would imply Peter would be doing. So in my opinion that simple choice makes it easier for me than the one you mentioned they presented in other VN. I mean some game works but this game would not considering you already have to grind your way to buy stuff or search for these girls at appropriate time or finding scattered items to advance the route.Yeah, it almost always sucks when points are used, they are rarely more than a smoke screen for a linear system,
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A good game should let you make "wrong" choices and still have the wiggle room to recover and acheive your goals. or atleast give you good information what choices you are making.
- Did you do it exactly as the writer predicted, No.... Then I shall punish you by denying you scenes.
I'm not entire sure what "danny prompt" you are talking about I've not played the game in a while and don't plan to until the next update.
I think a two pronged method would be best,
- Something near the event that makes it clear what you are choosing, sooo many games try to be subtle about this and screw up because something gets lost in translation.
(I've lost count of the number of times I've picked say, the "cheeky" option, just to later find out it was actually the "I'm a little bitch, please cuck me" option)
and
- a check box in the main menu [x] Turn off NTR (for the Anti-NTR zealots)
(this will cause all NTR options to be autoselected, because screw those guys(only joking ..... I think))
Ok I remember the Danny prompt you are talking about now, and I tend to disagree with that kind of carte blanche blocking (It's fine for major fetish routes, but a main/preferences menu check box would work better and wouldn't rely on people not accidently clicking though text).Yeah having an option like that would totally make the game a whole lot easy for Non-NTR fans however i would like to have see which girls are available before i decide it. As for the Danny prompt in the game you are given the option to choose wether to go along a Danny route or not based from the picture in his room if i remember correctly. Now I imagine the game would be having more options like those for every single girls (or boys) so we cn decide who to keep and who to ignore. Its presented with a warning as well what the choice would imply Peter would be doing. So in my opinion that simple choice makes it easier for me than the one you mentioned they presented in other VN. I mean some game works but this game would not considering you already have to grind your way to buy stuff or search for these girls at appropriate time or finding scattered items to advance the route.