Thanks for the info mate, Not usually a fan of UW monitors but that does look nice. And yea i feel your pain on the eyesight issue. its why i basically have to have a 32" or larger monitor, i would never be able to see anything smaller lol
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First time I played V0.2
Then I played V0.4 and I had to start a new game.
Again in V0.5, had to start from begin.
Probably in the next version, we will have to start from beginning again and so far.
Dev should finished the game at once and then say should have say, "start from begin"
Then I played V0.4 and I had to start a new game.
Again in V0.5, had to start from begin.
Probably in the next version, we will have to start from beginning again and so far.
Dev should finished the game at once and then say should have say, "start from begin"
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or maybe, if it bothers you, you should just wait till a game is completted to play it. it happens all the time with games still in development.
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Yeah, should have wait until completed.
Or atleast dev could give a option like player can start from any episode or could provide save files.
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Weeeeeeeell,
sitting in a hot tub and drinking pina colada can keep you extremly busy, for all i know!
sitting in a hot tub and drinking pina colada can keep you extremly busy, for all i know!
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recreation Just curious as to what the technical reasons would be to cause this sort of "must start over" or "saves not compatible" thing. Not just with your game, but in general. Is it something to do with how Ren'Py creates saves? Is it that Ren'Py saves variable names & values and those "need" changing to help future dev or story direction changes? Or is it something completely different?
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Something big changes in the code and can no longer read old code saves were made on.
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renpy saves variables and values in save files, so if a dev has to change a variable, or needs to introduce a new one earlier in the code, the game simply won't recognise it until it's used/requested, but once that happens and renpy can't find the initial variable in the save, it will throw errors and stop working.
A quick example of something that happens quite often, especially if the dev is new:
We have variable A and variable B, both are defined quite early, usually at the beginning of the game:
define A = 10
define B = 5^ this goes into the save file.
later in the game we have a condition that changes B:
if userchoice "yes":
B = +5
if userchoice "no":
B = -5^ This also get's saved.
While working on the next episode/update the dev realizes that he needs another variable C that depends on A and B, so he makes a new variable:
define C = 1^ this get's saved, and even if it didn't exist in the prior save, it will get saved now and work in the future.
Now he wants to set C's value (1) to a different value depending on if A and B got more or less points:
if B < 5 and A < ...wait a minute.Now the dev realizes he forgot to include a condition to change variable A in the previous release.
He doesn't know what the user would choose, so he can't set variable C, but C is needed to trigger an important scene later in the game, so the player will have to start a new game to change A.
This example wouldn't even throw an error in most cases, but if the player doesn't start a new game, the A value will never change, so C will never be set, and the scene where it's needed would never trigger.
Another example would be switched variables: instead of A, like intended, a choice changes B, so A and B have wrong values, and even if the code is fixed, there's no way to figure out if the save contains the correct (the fixed, or the non-fixed) values.
^ this happened to me in v0.3
The problem with most of those type of games is that they're more or less an early alpha, not even a beta, and in such an early stage of developement it's hard to forsee every little bit of code change, to know every single variable in advance, and then there's human error... (probably the biggest problem).
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Well put! Your use of
define had me worried there, but you do use default in your game so all's good. *phew* jdw6, Avaron1974 has a point, too. See
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I just chose define here to make it a bit more understandable for people with no coding background^^
This is kinda what I expected, just wasn't sure. Kinda more that 25+ year dev "educated guess" than anything. Basic -> C++ -> C -> Perl -> VB -> Java with a few side steps into other languages here and there... been on here enough to know there's try...catch type logic available, but I've spent most of my career fixing bad coding to know not to equate any dev with good coding. Even that crap I wrote
now() - 1 ago. And, wow! Thanks for the uber detailed response.
(But, what?!? You don't have a crystal ball to foresee the unforeseeable future?)Hordragg Ah... rollback stuff (from that link) dur! Don't know why I didn't realize all of that was in there too. (So, naturally if the text of scenes get redone, and the old is still in there, or the ordering of the scenes... yeah, whole bunch of reasons.)
just came by the forest that part shown in the photos and was wondering is it supposed to be so dark you cant see whats happening ? as in i could see that something was moving but only after it was done could i actually see what happened.
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this one and do note my phone instantly tried to make it lighter. in game i can only see her leg its so dark and main characters arm thats it.This one?
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That specific shot is supposed to be quite dark, but if you can't see the next shot/camera angle properly, then there's something wrong.
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This is the Italian translation of Tainted Heritage - a.k.a Weird Shit Is Going to Happen [v0.5]
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Unzip the .rar file - copy/paste the game folder into the game directory, replace when asked.
**This translation is "unofficial" and "made by a fan"**
next ones where quite visible. i just thought in this one you should at least be able to see whats happening a bit more clearly while keeping it dark