VN Ren'Py Tales Of Sanctaris Arcane [v0.1.2] [Gladerine]

[Gtdead]

At this point I feel like I am turning into the type of commenter I've argued against in the past, but Imma say it anyway. If the ex was a dude and the very same thing happened I think there is a 99% probability you would be singing a different tune. I say this to put things into perspective.

This is an angle of attack that I have also argued against myself, stating that "well its a girl and will be in bed with MC sooner or later so its fine" but this ? Nah thats too far. This wasnt a LI attracting another girl for the MC, this wasn't two girls with a crush(or previously established love) for the MC sharing a steamy moment to tease what is to come(for those that like that).

My dude, She completely forgot that the guy that she supposedly can't live without is dying on the floor at the hands of the person she was kissing.


I'll say it again, if a [lesbian netorare] tag existed(I don;t say this lightly because I know if it did exist, it would likely be used incorrectly very often) this would be the first scene that I would consider applying it for and I am happy the dev is going to change it, because it is inconsistent with what the dev is trying to establish.

First things first, the scene has issues in general without the Aria/Bella thing. I've already gave my feedback on a previous post. Plot issues take precedence in my mind so that's that.

Regarding the second part, If you ask me personally, it entirely depends on the dude. If I could fuck him too (he needs to be kinda feminine looking though), or I could use the relationship for corruption and humiliation purposes as the MC, I wouldn't mind. There's also context considerations etc. But generally speaking, as long as there's a general sense of a harem conclusion with MC in control, I just don't care. You could argue that the scene made it look like MC is the greatest looser in the world and you could potentially be right (especially if you disregard that while the girls were kissing, MC was fucking a goddess), but if you had to bet money on it, what would your prediction be about the resolution 2-3 updates in?

Regarding your last paragraph, he has already removed the scene completely. And since the game is updated to 1.2 on this site, ntr doesn't exist in any shape or form currently, so it should be removed.

called it

You have to be a prophet or something, divining that someone will use the established counterargument to one of the most common criticisms in harem/polyamory style lesbianism.

 

[Tenchip3d0]

It's worse than that.

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The images say it all. An old friend kills the MC, her ex-girlfriend shows up, she gets mad at her ex because she killed her new half-boyfriend, she attacks her, the ex immobilizes her... and what happens is what appears in the images while 2-B's boyfriend aka Nier Automata tries to resurrect him. Everyone can draw their own conclusions.

Oh, and this has NOTHING to do with Eternum.

 

[Fazed]

Regarding the second part, If you ask me personally, it entirely depends on the dude. If I could fuck him too (he needs to be kinda feminine looking though),There's also context considerations etc. But generally speaking, as long as there's a general sense of a harem conclusion with MC in control, I just don't care.

Hold up. Am I hallucinating? Am I talking to reflection of myself? That scene isn't in line with that though, which Is why I disagreed with your comment.

I like burgers but if I expect a burger with onions rings and mayo but I receive a cold soggy ass meal, even if I got the extras I asked for, I'm not going to eat it. The food sucks.

You could argue that the scene made it look like MC is the greatest looser in the world and you could potentially be right

Yea thats the problem. No way around that. From their perspective, MC was dead/dying. They "forgor"

Nathan is a real G.

but if you had to bet money on it, what would your prediction be about the resolution 2-3 updates in?

Like I mentioned I have no doubt that they would end up in bed together as is typical, so I would not bet against that outcome even if the dev wasnt changing the scene. But I don't think the ends justify the means. If it's worth doing, it's worth being done well. Certainly, dont do something that is likely to destroy what you want before even building it.

 

[Darkbreed]

Hold up. Am I hallucinating? Am I talking to reflection of myself? That scene isn't in line with that which Is why I disagreed with your comment.

I like burgers but if I expect a burger with onions rings and mayo but I receive a cold soggy ass meal, even if I got the extras I asked for, I'm not going to eat it. The food sucks.



Yea thats the problem. No way around that. From their perspective, MC was dead/dying. They "forgor"

Nathan is a real G.




Like I mentioned I have no doubt that they would end up in bed together as is typical, so I would not bet against that outcome even if the dev wasnt changing the scene. But I don't think the ends justify the means. If it's worth doing, it's worth being done well. Certainly, dont do something that is likely to destroy what you want before even building it.

Not gonna lie, this game was one of the saddest fumbles in porn history, It seems AAA and porn devs have lost the plot together.
Also the first fuckup is Very hard to undo.

 

[Gtdead]

Hold up. Am I hallucinating? Am I talking to reflection of myself? That scene isn't in line with that which Is why I disagreed with your comment.

I like burgers but if I expect a burger with onions rings and mayo but I receive a cold soggy ass meal, even if I got the extras I asked for, I'm not going to eat it. The food sucks.

Let me put it this way:

Aside from his interactions with Aria, MC isn't exactly a pushover. He is more capable than he looks (he went against a sorcerer that Nath couldn't handle), his interactions with Bella and the gym girl can't remember the name are not simp-y at all (his interactions with the goddess were balanced too, factoring his general demeanor).

This is also the first update and there's an obvious attempt from the dev to show that his current situation isn't good. The implementation may not be the best, making him look inconsistent, but if he has the ability to pull his weight, then that's all I need for now.

Take a game like Out of Touch! for example, I can draw a lot of parallels between CJ and this MC, yet after all these updates I don't think anyone can say that CJ is either weak, a simp or a pushover. He is gentle and values freedom. This MC isn't too far off and the way he wins over people is similar, by having a dependable personality.

Someone could easily say that I'm reaching, but factoring in the dev's inexperience and trouble with english, along with the actions scenes that show MC punching above his weight and the plot which sets him up to be "the one", with Aria (the most obnoxious character so far) destined to be his priestess, I think I can safely bet on this turning into a satisfactory power fantasy despite whatever hiccups.

 

[Noxstella]

as a point of general discontent the story has potential. but there are kind of fucked up points that i feel i agree with a number of other people.
1. Aria is clingy as hell to the point of extreme jealousy but the moment bella is back and she just says a few words to aria and she suddenly kisses her over her supposed "new love interest" dead body. really sets the bar for "i hate both of those unappreciative disrespectful selfish bitches"
2. while the main character has his own interesting abilities in a sense of him rising above the "status quo" in his own way he is literally shit on constantly for shit that is not his fault and he just goes along with it at the hopes of either smoothing things over or hoping he gets his dick wet. the very definition of a fucking simp. imo utterly weak sauce.
3. there is too much fluff in between plot points and story explanations. example of while MC was dead vast amounts of info about history and emotional crap, carrying his dead body on a mission (while have been funny to a point but there so much fluff i didnt give a shit by then because speed clicking through it all took forever and most of it was literally nonsensical. some of the stuff with the goddess was cool but it felt overly forced for a narrative point. everyone else was prolly thinking the same as me (what the actual fuck principal, notice and fix the fucker or any other potential plot point like maybe the goddess putting him back instead?) it's just...too damn much.
4. there are other things that i want to pint out but i'll end up writing a novel and to be fair they are all somewhat linked to the 3 tips above.

to this final point, someone said "write your own story" and so on. this does not mean the story is a bad one. its simply how the story was put forward. the characters themselves aren't necessarily bad. its just what you decided to do with those characters at the most inopportune times and some of the excess fluff you added to them. the only thing i'd prolly change character wise is the MC does not need to be such a damned simp and maybe aria tempered a bit so she isn't so...irrational? maybe? even then she doesn't really need a re-write she could just have her character develop some humility from a situation she caused and is forced to realize it and face it or lose everything. i would say Bella needs a HARD Coming to Jeebus moment with the MC. for real. that bitch is way to trifling for my taste atm. she is fine atm but yeah there needs a serious HUGE redemption arc for her.

I hope you don't take these criticisms too hard as it wasn't intended but i personally have just been tired of these same tropes and issues in new AVN's i've seen lately and it just boils over. so in this spirit please take these with the best of intentions and i hope you succeed in your desire and dreams for this game.

 

[fajiker145]

I’ll do that; I’m going to rewrite Aria.
Once I’ve done it and updated the version, I’m sure Zemax will let you all know. After all, he was the one who uploaded it to this platform without me realizing

Could you say it clearly right now if this is supposed to be a forced sharing poly harem with a lot of lesbianism??? That way people who dont like it can leave already.

I dont think deleting the kissing scene or making Aria less of an asshole would do anything as long as she is still in love with Bella (Mc is so pathetic, his girl is still in love with her ex). And she is fucking annoying with her lesbianism, even going for the other girls, trying to kiss hem and shit.

So just let us know if that will still be part of the game or forced /optional so people who are sick of lesbian garbage can just put this on ignore.

 

[Raziel_8]

Could you say it clearly right now if this is supposed to be a forced sharing poly harem with a lot of lesbianism??? That way people who dont like it can leave already.

I dont think deleting the kissing scene or making Aria less of an asshole would do anything as long as she is still in love with Bella (Mc is so pathetic, his girl is still in love with her ex). And she is fucking annoying with her lesbianism, even going for the other girls, trying to kiss hem and shit.

So just let us know if that will still be part of the game or forced /optional so people who are sick of lesbian garbage can just put this on ignore.

Yeah, seconding this.

Gladerine can you just clarify if
A) The lesbian content can be avoided
B) Are we able to reject LI's we don't like, like Aria and Bella

You making her less annoying is nice, but i honestly don't think i will ever like either her or Bella...thought i'd really prefer the MC less of an simp...
Forced LI's and forced lesbian content is just a no for some of us. Just give us the word so we know if it's worth to stay or if we can move on.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Just woke up and i see harem and no shit ntr new game...

Better than coffee

This is the millionth harem game on this site

 

[Pitrik]

This is the millionth harem game on this site

And?

 

[John Doe Jr.]

And?

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You act like it's some surprise it's not ntr

 

[Pitrik]

You act like it's some surprise it's not ntr

Of course...I don't want shit in my harem games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[M3lly]

I just confirmed with the developer that there will be a harem and no NTR.

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I made a walkthrough mod for the game, and I'll soon turn it into a multi mod.
Have fun!

Edit: Moved to Multi-Mod

Then can ntr tag be removed so it stops showing on my search? What a tease.

 

[youraccount69]

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[korochan48]

It's meh. Trying so much to be funny and makes everything into a joke. Not mention issue with Aria and Bella and MC not caring about it and his life making it a joke. I dont even mind NTR it just that was out of blue in MC dead body and they are there talking and shitting doesnt make sense cause Aria was clearly in love with MC and then she suddenly kiss Bella after seeing her.

 

[Storm_13]

You've blown a mountain out of a molehill, let the developer decide what to do, and we'll see, for me personally lesbians are not NTR, it's beautiful. Even though I'm not married, I would share with another girl, so that I could fuck her later too. Don't forget that this is a porn game

 

[Machete]

You've blown a mountain out of a molehill, let the developer decide what to do, and we'll see, for me personally lesbians are not NTR, it's beautiful. Even though I'm not married, I would share with another girl, so that I could fuck her later too. Don't forget that this is a porn game

I disagree! Jilling off counts as NTR too! (Kidding).

 

[korochan48]

You've blown a mountain out of a molehill, let the developer decide what to do, and we'll see, for me personally lesbians are not NTR, it's beautiful. Even though I'm not married, I would share with another girl, so that I could fuck her later too. Don't forget that this is a porn game

What's worse is not the NTR it just dont make any sense in that scenario. MC was treated like a trash

 

[SentryAl]

hate Aria from first 10 sentences. horrible personality that forced to us with no choice to ignore her. MC is treated like shit ....
not sure who would be thrilled to have romance with this garbage girl.
tsundere is a hard characters and this author sucked on making it work.

might be come back later after game gets better if 1it'll happen at all.

 

[frefdre]

The world is cool, but the MC is kind of a sniffling pussy that nobody respects, and Aria is a mediocre ho that walks all over him. Hopefully the mc and Aria get better, but tbh the MC feels like a self insert so I doubt much character change is going to happen.