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NishiGM

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Nov 21, 2020
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I was hoping we got animations with new updates, but not happened :( I realy love this game art style but without animations its more like normal VN for me, pictures not does job :p
Animations is really hard to do, and no sayng the classic fotogram x fotogram, maybe with a program (very expensive by the way) you will need to change the way you make art - separate the parts to animate, light, shadows, it's chaos.
 

kratoscar2008

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thanks know i read that this game has only pics that a shame
Sorry for being harsh.
The game proper doesnt have what you call animations but rather alternates betwee images to simulate movement, if thats enough for you then give it a go.

Anyways just played everything in one sitting. The game scalates quite quickly, I think the hypnosis was more believable on Anna than the other girls because we spent a good while setting it up.
Also game sets a few stuff that get tossed aside quite quickly like the reason why Akaber was with Willow and why she was absent for a while, MC makes her take him where she was camping but he didnt question her further. We dont get anything more than her receiving a talismán from him.
Also strange that she becomes MC's slave willingly so the only explanation to me is that she is faking it and biding her time as she is or related to the vessel of the other entity.
Then the voice dissapears (This one is used to make MC rely less on hypnosis) but when it reappears MC doesnt act looking to help it despite knowing his life is in danger.
But in all I enjoyed it, definitely give Esther the title of best girl. Game clearly favors Willow but Esther is better.
 

tubitubler

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Sep 2, 2021
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Sorry for being harsh.
The game proper doesnt have what you call animations but rather alternates betwee images to simulate movement, if thats enough for you then give it a go.

Anyways just played everything in one sitting. The game scalates quite quickly, I think the hypnosis was more believable on Anna than the other girls because we spent a good while setting it up.
Also game sets a few stuff that get tossed aside quite quickly like the reason why Akaber was with Willow and why she was absent for a while, MC makes her take him where she was camping but he didnt question her further. We dont get anything more than her receiving a talismán from him.
Also strange that she becomes MC's slave willingly so the only explanation to me is that she is faking it and biding her time as she is or related to the vessel of the other entity.
Then the voice dissapears (This one is used to make MC rely less on hypnosis) but when it reappears MC doesnt act looking to help it despite knowing his life is in danger.
But in all I enjoyed it, definitely give Esther the title of best girl. Game clearly favors Willow but Esther is better.
thank you if its renders so great also anyway i give it a try and play
 
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RandyPhoenix

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Animations is really hard to do, and no sayng the classic fotogram x fotogram, maybe with a program (very expensive by the way) you will need to change the way you make art - separate the parts to animate, light, shadows, it's chaos.
Of course its hard but its only hard if you cant earn enough or dont have good PC etc for doing renders or cant hire anyone because of lack of outcome but our DEV earns enough for those things. I saw and still see lots of DEV doing it without far less outcome and they were doing good job. Our DEV can hire someone to do animations, there is lots of people doing animations for fair price. And honestly we are living in 2021, playing games without proper animations (the ones with static animations aswell, those are not good either) feels like im still playing in 2010 or someting :D I can understand some people enjoy games with just pictures and i was enjoying when i first started playing games aswell, but after some time, when you saw other amazing games with amazing animations you just cant enjoy from games with just pictures.
 

Whiteleaf Studio

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Of course its hard but its only hard if you cant earn enough or dont have good PC etc for doing renders or cant hire anyone because of lack of outcome but our DEV earns enough for those things. I saw and still see lots of DEV doing it without far less outcome and they were doing good job. Our DEV can hire someone to do animations, there is lots of people doing animations for fair price. And honestly we are living in 2021, playing games without proper animations (the ones with static animations aswell, those are not good either) feels like im still playing in 2010 or someting :D I can understand some people enjoy games with just pictures and i was enjoying when i first started playing games aswell, but after some time, when you saw other amazing games with amazing animations you just cant enjoy from games with just pictures.
I doubt you know how much it costs to comission a single static picture, let alone a few static pictures.
Let me tell you, it's not cheap. Also, animations are way, way more time consuming and expensive. If a few pictures costs 300$, a simple animation would cost 1000$ or even more. You think it's worth it? Consider that we have two games.
 

RandyPhoenix

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I doubt you know how much it costs to comission a single static picture, let alone a few static pictures.
Let me tell you, it's not cheap. Also, animations are way, way more time consuming and expensive. If a few pictures costs 300$, a simple animation would cost 1000$ or even more. You think it's worth it? Consider that we have two games.
I do believe you need search some games and DEV's without any income, and how they can give their players best they can do even with Demo versions. There is easy ways to make animations, cheaper animators etc. This comment are yours is pretty sad... You even give my logical argument ''facepalm'' and im not even sure why im bothering giving person like you answer now... Its cool you want live like that, but there is lots of game not suitable your description, there is lots of DEV does amazing job with funny incomes, so your argument is not fact, its just your own poor vision. And honestly, its your game, instead of acting rude, arrogant and ignorant you can just tell ''I dont want bother making animations, nor dont want spend money to hire people for it. I just want game easy money with doing games with pictures and its my style/game.'' and thats it. Because its your game, so instead of acting like that just accept facts. But i dont think you will and i dont think i will give a damn aswell. I just write that argument of mine because of thinking i was assuming talking with person can talk in logical ways, but its clear you are not that person so im done here. Good luck i gues?
 

Whiteleaf Studio

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I do believe you need search some games and DEV's without any income, and how they can give their players best they can do even with Demo versions. There is easy ways to make animations, cheaper animators etc. This comment are yours is pretty sad... You even give my logical argument ''facepalm'' and im not even sure why im bothering giving person like you answer now... Its cool you want live like that, but there is lots of game not suitable your description, there is lots of DEV does amazing job with funny incomes, so your argument is not fact, its just your own poor vision. And honestly, its your game, instead of acting rude, arrogant and ignorant you can just tell ''I dont want bother making animations, nor dont want spend money to hire people for it. I just want game easy money with doing games with pictures and its my style/game.'' and thats it. Because its your game, so instead of acting like that just accept facts. But i dont think you will and i dont think i will give a damn aswell. I just write that argument of mine because of thinking i was assuming talking with person can talk in logical ways, but its clear you are not that person so im done here. Good luck i gues?
Like I said, you have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about. You're making it sound like it's very cheap to comission an animation artist. It's not. If you find someone willing to do animations for 50$ or even 100$ I'll gladly hire them, let me know.

Yes, indeed there are some some games that make animations while having low income. These games are either 3D games (which is easier to do animations) or games where the dev is the artist so he can do his own animations (which is not the case here, I must hire someone and it costs a lot to do so).

But yeah, whatever. That's the last reply I will give you since you're very clueless on this subject. and I don't mean to sound rude by saying that (and sorry if I might have sounded a bit harsh), but you need to get better information on this stuff before talking things like that.
 

kiwiip4it

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I do believe you need search some games and DEV's without any income, and how they can give their players best they can do even with Demo versions. There is easy ways to make animations, cheaper animators etc. This comment are yours is pretty sad... You even give my logical argument ''facepalm'' and im not even sure why im bothering giving person like you answer now... Its cool you want live like that, but there is lots of game not suitable your description, there is lots of DEV does amazing job with funny incomes, so your argument is not fact, its just your own poor vision. And honestly, its your game, instead of acting rude, arrogant and ignorant you can just tell ''I dont want bother making animations, nor dont want spend money to hire people for it. I just want game easy money with doing games with pictures and its my style/game.'' and thats it. Because its your game, so instead of acting like that just accept facts. But i dont think you will and i dont think i will give a damn aswell. I just write that argument of mine because of thinking i was assuming talking with person can talk in logical ways, but its clear you are not that person so im done here. Good luck i gues?
whats really sad is that you continue to go on and on about this when the DEV has given you their response. If it is so easy and cheap, then show everyone and go create the animations for Tama's awakening..... yeah didnt think so.
 

DarkLoki

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I have to tell you, this is funny shit.
I liked it.
A very important point, there is no tag "animated" BUT, somehow, despite the fact that it is not very good, it is animated.
In fairness, I generally cannot imagine the further development of the storyline.
Just what else to develop? MC has already fucked all his girls, poured sperm into their uterus, and now the plot can be the maximum attempt of the protagonist to help the unknown voice survive?
Maybe I'm stupid and missed something, but that's all I could think of now after completing the game.
I'm not even sure if any more girls are needed here.
It would be awesome if it eventually morphed into a hybrid VN/Sandbox game so done events could be repeated. That would take some of the pressure off of story development. JMO
 

Whiteleaf Studio

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It would be awesome if it eventually morphed into a hybrid VN/Sandbox game so done events could be repeated. That would take some of the pressure off of story development. JMO
We're gonna change a lot of the game once we're done with the main plot. This is not a final product, it's still in development. There's gonna be choices and additional story branches as well. The final product will be much different than what we have right now, rest assured .
 

tigerdiamond

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ran into a few script bugs where the twins are still referred to by their default relationships, and when they're arguing with their mom after she comes out of the closet the large titty one calls her mom by MC's mom's name.
 
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The art in the game is amazing. No questionn about it. But.. it's not a game in any capacity, the dialogue isn't worth reading. There's no gameplay. It's just the artist's work that's worth checking out here. Could've been a lot more. Shame.
I'm a bit torn on it, I do think the game could improve a lot by having someone with a bit of editing experience going over some of the text though, without a doubt.

That being said, the vast majority of the draw of these games is the porn, and I think the devs have done a good job of recognising that, instead of forcing some weird half-assed VN on top of that, as a lot of other teams tend to do (and tend to burn out on, because as the dev said above, art is fucking expensive and VNs need a heap of it).

If the intention is to just finish the main skeleton of the game and then polish more when creating the final product, I can't really complain too much though, god knows lots of huge mainstream devs have worse processes (looking at you Bioware).
 
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Sewyoba

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The art in the game is amazing. No questionn about it. But.. it's not a game in any capacity, the dialogue isn't worth reading. There's no gameplay. It's just the artist's work that's worth checking out here. Could've been a lot more. Shame.
You haven't seen Norn/Miel games, have you? Nukiges and kinetic novels are a fairly common thing. Western Devs, though, don't have Japanese' productivity, who produce a couple of such simple novels with 10-20 scenes per year. Must be a bad market, somehow.
 
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