Ren'Py Abandoned Teacher's Pets [v2.06.1] [irredeemable]

[401Grem]

I want to fuck me some megan:FeelsGoodMan::heartcoveredeyes:

No, she's all mine! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Major Wanker]

This patreon rubbish is causing serious problems. So many people perma banned and alot are having to change there games. After legal advice from my legal team ive pulled out of almost all the games i support until i hear back from patreon. Turns out not even the supporters are protected from this crap. I recieved an email listing the devs i support and warning the content was ilegal. Now in the uk and europe its frowned upon but not ilegal to view that sort of content. So legal team is finding out if american law has changed or what exactly patreon are driving at. While my legal teams tackling that issue im helping a few devs sort problems and issues out. Deems working his ass off to keep game in line with the tos and to produce a worthy update

 

[hgamefix]

Ok, I know I freely gave out my name but that's still a little creepy.

Welcome to porn game forum, man!

There is 1 only rule here, try not get caught by police, SWAT, CIA, or FBI while you playing the porn game.

 

[jackkane]

No, she's all mine! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

you can have that bitchy wife megan is mine bro

 

[401Grem]

you can have that bitchy wife megan is mine bro

Busy with Megan, can't hear you!

 

[jackkane]

This patreon rubbish is causing serious problems. So many people perma banned and alot are having to change there games. After legal advice from my legal team ive pulled out of almost all the games i support until i hear back from patreon. Turns out not even the supporters are protected from this crap. I recieved an email listing the devs i support and warning the content was ilegal. Now in the uk and europe its frowned upon but not ilegal to view that sort of content. So legal team is finding out if american law has changed or what exactly patreon are driving at. While my legal teams tackling that issue im helping a few devs sort problems and issues out. Deems working his ass off to keep game in line with the tos and to produce a worthy update

man I wish I could afford a legal team to always have my back:FeelsBadMan:

 

[Major Wanker]

man I wish I could afford a legal team to always have my back:FeelsBadMan:

Its not that expensive i have 9 solicitors at 1k each per hour. Thats extremely cheap considering there some of the best solicitors in the uk.

 

[Pantisocrat]

@401Grem Maybe so, but could a dev really afford the legal costs and time to challenge patreons new policy in court? Possibly if several creators banded together to do it, but my guess is patreons counting on creators not being willing to do that. Guess it depends how far patreon goes with their clampdown.

I'm not a lawyer (or American) but I don't see what there is to challenge? This is not a legal free speech issue; Patreon are free to permit or ban more or less anything they want, as far as I'm aware. Your 1st amendment allows you to say the word 'Fuck', but it doesn't prevent a message board from censoring the word or even from banning you for saying it.

 

[401Grem]

I'm not a lawyer (or American) but I don't see what there is to challenge? This is not a legal free speech issue; Patreon are free to permit or ban more or less anything they want, as far as I'm aware. Your 1st amendment allows you to say the word 'Fuck', but it doesn't prevent a message board from censoring the word or even from banning you for saying it.

Depends on if they are banning things based on their claim of the legality of the content?

 

[Pantisocrat]

Depends on if they are banning things based on their claim of the legality of the content?

Sure, but even if that was actionable (which I doubt, clueless randomer that I am), you would only be suing them to change that claim, surely? You couldn't challenge their actual right to ban it; their website, their decision, as far as I'm aware.

 

[401Grem]

Sure, but even if that was actionable (which I doubt, clueless randomer that I am), you would only be suing them to change that claim, surely? You couldn't challenge their actual right to ban it; their website, their decision, as far as I'm aware.

Yep, it would depend on what grounds they were standing on. As I posted earlier, the supreme court ruled that virtual porn has a first amendment protection, and isn't subject to the same laws governing real porn.

 

[Darth Helmet]

It's obvious that they panicked after the Harvey Weinstein thing and that's why they took this action. It would be bad for them to get the media's attention over this that is why they took this step. It's ridiculous though how they treated some of the devs. You can see that others with more cash coming in got preferential treatment.

 

[bc21]

Yep, it would depend on what grounds they were standing on. As I posted earlier, the supreme court ruled that virtual porn has a first amendment protection, and isn't subject to the same laws governing real porn.

The first amendment only guarantees that the US Gov will not infringe on your speech. A private company is free to do what they want.

 

[paladin07]

@401Grem Maybe so, but could a dev really afford the legal costs and time to challenge patreons new policy in court? Possibly if several creators banded together to do it, but my guess is patreons counting on creators not being willing to do that. Guess it depends how far patreon goes with their clampdown.

irredeemable hit it on the head with his comment. The Supreme Court ruling only has to do with what Congress or State law can rule or render criminal conduct. The weather or not CGI ********** or CGI incest or CGI beastiality is is obscene for purposes of rendering such content criminal possession creation distribution, is a different question than whether a private company wants to be associated with the creation distribution of such content.

 

[paladin07]

Possible, when i was a kid i remember at school teachers punishing the whole class because of one students behaviour, even though collective punishment is illegal under the Geneva Convention. We were to young to know it was illegal so couldn't challenge it. (i know only tangently relevant but it was on my mind for some reason).

@jande21 Aren't there other payment services though? What about Epoch or CCbill which cam/porn websites use to process payments.

the Geneva Convention is a set of rules by which countries agree on the way in which they will engage in war and handle the imprisonment of prisoners of war with the citizens of other nations. The Geneva Convention does not dictate how nations may deal with their own population and it certainly does not dictate how students are to be treated by teachers.

 

[401Grem]

The first amendment only guarantees that the US Gov will not infringe on your speech. A private company is free to do what they want.

irredeemable hit it on the head with his comment. The Supreme Court ruling only has to do with what Congress or State law can rule or render criminal conduct. The weather or not CGI ********** or CGI incest or CGI beastiality is is obscene for purposes of rendering such content criminal possession creation distribution, is a different question than whether a private company wants to be associated with the creation distribution of such content.

You are both right.

 

[Dasati]

@paladin07 Genuine question, are you a lawyer or have some other kind of legal background? Not accusing you or anything just from the tone of your posts it sounds as if you've at least read into this stuff. (also just a random fyi i'm English so have only the most general understanding of US law).

 

[irredeemable]

It's obvious that they panicked after the Harvey Weinstein thing and that's why they took this action. It would be bad for them to get the media's attention over this that is why they took this step. It's ridiculous though how they treated some of the devs. You can see that others with more cash coming in got preferential treatment.

See that's what I don't get. If it's a PR move, which it appears to be, wouldn't they go after the most visible projects? Those are the ones that the media are going to target. But nothing of consequence has been done to any of the top games, as far as I know, meanwhile I got hassled endlessly and nobody even knows who the fuck I am. Why was I even on that list?

 

[401Grem]

@paladin07 Genuine question, are you a lawyer or have some other kind of legal background? Not accusing you or anything just from the tone of your posts it sounds as if you've at least read into this stuff. (also just a random fyi i'm English so have only the most general understanding of US law).

No, but I did stay at a Holiday inn express. actually I have done much personal study, one of my fav challenges to many claims, is that of legal standing, who has it, who does not, and if their is a valid claim of harm/damage?

 

[401Grem]

See that's what I don't get. If it's a PR move, which it appears to be, wouldn't they go after the most visible projects? Those are the ones that the media are going to target. But nothing of consequence has been done to any of the top games, as far as I know, meanwhile I got hassled endlessly and nobody even knows who the fuck I am. Why was I even on that list?

Might be like Walma*t pushing for legislation to force small businesses to provide healthcare ins, and higher min wages, which Walma*t can afford, but not most small businesses. reduces competition.