Ren'Py Abandoned Teacher's Pets [v2.06.1] [irredeemable]

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GH_TK

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I've been on there for years. There's no bait. Only constant whining and bitching from a few assholes who can't beat their meat because a game was delayed or didn't meet with their expectation.
What happens with many of these projects is more than just "delays", let's be real here. When a creator gets paid several thousands of dollars each month, and substantial content updates only come about every half-year or so -especially when it consists of poorly written/translated dialogue, and static images using generic 3D assets on top of it-, then it's reason to be frustrated. At worst, it's a scam. At best, it's sheer incompetence from the devs.


On a side note, I'm fairly sure a significant portion of the people who visit this site come from 4chan. F95 gets mentioned in /weg/ all the time.
 

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What happens with many of these projects is more than just "delays", let's be real here. When a creator gets paid several thousands of dollars each month, and substantial content updates only come about every half-year or so -especially when it consists of poorly written/translated dialogue, and static images using generic 3D assets on top of it-, then it's reason to be frustrated. At worst, it's a scam. At best, it's sheer incompetence from the devs.


On a side note, I'm fairly sure a significant portion of the people who visit this site come from 4chan. F95 gets mentioned in /weg/ all the time.
Generic 3D assets?
I have spent $600.00+ in "generic assets" the people making games have invest in their creations, you make it sound like they're using generic free stuff to make their games and that is not the case, TP uses many premium assets and the characters have been modified they're not "out of the box" generic characters, they're custom designs.

If you expect to find 3D sex games that look like GTA or COD you're in the wrong place, most of the games are made by individuals having fun with their hobby not by established game studios.

I'm working on a game myself and I can say from experience that is not an easy task.
 
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It is currently. Previously I was doing freelance web development but I haven't taken on a job in months now.

I have source that tells me that they're really going to be cracking down on the "big 5" in the community guidelines. I'm already under scrutiny (it's still unclear to me whether I'm cleared to post anything yet, waiting to hear back from Trust and Safety.). Even if I weren't, I strongly suspect my suspension was the result of someone vindictively reporting me and have no reason to think he or she wouldn't do so again. Additionally, since I announced the changes I've probably received 25-30 messages from irate TP players who apparently think I'm scum now.

In other words, I think thorough adherence to the community guidelines is advisable.

That said, I really think many people are overestimating the impact the changes will have on the game. Pills are gone, but at this point they were basically just shortcuts for +rom anyway, or a grind to content I'll fit in some other way. Blackmail BJ is gone(but not consensual BJ) but in retrospect I think it really clashed with the tone of the game anyway. The other changes are largely inconsequential. Mostly just nominal things like "daughter" -> "stepdaughter", "high school" -> "junior high" which could probably be modified by some nefarious modder (I do not endorse this, nefarious modders) if it really matters to you.

As for the ETA, I don't really have a good one at the moment. I was kind of a wreck during the suspension and didn't get much done other than checking my email constantly and emailing everyone I could think of to email. Now I have to go through the code making compliance changes. I realize it's been a long time since 1.62, but 1.7 is going to feature 2 of the highest quality interactive renders I've produced, and I've recently decided to add a new scene, perhaps partially animated (unless I go nuts and decide to do a 3rd full anim), that I think most of the fans will thoroughly enjoy.
Hey @irredeemable, thanks for the update. However, I think you meant "high school" -> "junior high" to be "high school" -> "community college", that is if you're worried about the girls appearing to be underage in any way, shape or form.
 

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I have source that tells me that they're really going to be cracking down on the "big 5" in the community guidelines.
They've already dealt with "big 5" in a guideline. They're prepering something more? The only and worst thing I can think about is that they might use those rules they've used against you with other devs which would remove most of the games here from development. But it's so serious I doubt it would be a case. Still, adult games seem to be rather marginal when compared to real porn so it's not like something Patreon can't do.
 

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The other changes are largely inconsequential. Mostly just nominal things like "daughter" -> "stepdaughter", "high school" -> "junior college" .
When you say changing daughter to stepdaughter.
Is it going to be one of those things that's just established at the beginning and never brought up again.
Or is there going to be a constant reminder that you're not blood related?
 

GH_TK

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Generic 3D assets?
I have spent $600.00+ in "generic assets" the people making games have invest in their creations, you make it sound like they're using generic free stuff to make their games and that is not the case, TP uses many premium assets and the characters have been modified they're not "out of the box" generic characters, they're custom designs.

If you expect to find 3D sex games that look like GTA or COD you're in the wrong place, most of the games are made by individuals having fun with their hobby not by established game studios.

I'm working on a game myself and I can say from experience that is not an easy task.
I don't know what you do, and I haven't been following TP's development long enough to make a judgement. I was just responding to another person who was downplaying some of the concerns that surround the whole erotic western game scene, so you kinda blew my comment out of proportion.
Aside from that, games that use preexisting assets is technically "generic" by the very definition of the word. Counting very slight changes to existing models is not making unique assets any more than if I use Honey Select's character creation to make my own waifu.

Regardless, that wasn't even my point, because I'll fap to to the same girls if I have to (and trust me, I have set my expectations quite low when it comes to porn games in general). What I'm saying is that using generic assets should at least significantly speed up the development process, even more so if you're just using static images in your game, that's all.
 

irredeemable

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When you say changing daughter to stepdaughter.
Is it going to be one of those things that's just established at the beginning and never brought up again.
Or is there going to be a constant reminder that you're not blood related?
Every time. What I've been told, and this is 2nd hand not directly from Patreon, is that you can't have her refer to you as Dad "too often" either. Which is not very helpful information. I'm just going to have her say things like "Hey, you!" instead of "Hey, Dad" occasionally, and maybe have her call you by your first name once if she's mad or something. Hopefully this will be too complicated for any nefarious modders to patch out.
 

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Well pretty much all of the other games I've been following have released their updates, so this is the one I'm waiting on now. Really looking forward to the update Irredeemable!
 
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From my experience step-kids rarely use dad/mom unless they were adopted really early and didn't meet real parents. Usually it's uncle/aunt or names. But that's how it is in real world - here it would be hard to introduce. Apparently someone in Patreon's headquarter will play your game every update so you should be happy for having such a loyal fans. I wonder how TP's future is gonna look.
 
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irredeemable

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From my experience step-kids rarely use dad/mom unless they were adopted really early and didn't meet real parents. Usually it's uncle/aunt or names. But that's how it is in real world - here it would be hard to introduce. Apparently someone in Patreon's headquarter will play your game every update so you should be happy for having such a loyal fans. I wonder how TP's future is gonna look.
Hah, well if they do I'll be clean. But that wasn't specifically referring to me, that will just be their general guideline going forward. Sort of like they told me that disclaimers don't matter when it comes to age, the "disclaimer" of one "step-daughter" won't count for as much. Again, this is second-hand info I'm hearing. And as far as I know they're not interested in seeking out the content, but if you get reported you would be in trouble.
 

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Hah, well if they do I'll be clean. But that wasn't specifically referring to me, that will just be their general guideline going forward. Sort of like they told me that disclaimers don't matter when it comes to age, the "disclaimer" of one "step-daughter" won't count for as much. Again, this is second-hand info I'm hearing. And as far as I know they're not interested in searching out the content, but if you get reported you would be in trouble.
Yeah I got that. Your actions are totally understandable. Even tho it hurts seeing some devs being repressed while others just don't give a damn. I hope TP will be as good as always. If someone will report you, we will find him and report his favourite devs as well \m/
 

Meghan's Dad

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Just a thought, Deem.
If you've got any unused images that are now unusable, why not post them in the 'TP Fan Art' thread, when you're less busy, rather than bin them?
 

LordGMLP

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It is currently. Previously I was doing freelance web development but I haven't taken on a job in months now.

I have source that tells me that they're really going to be cracking down on the "big 5" in the community guidelines. I'm already under scrutiny (it's still unclear to me whether I'm cleared to post anything yet, waiting to hear back from Trust and Safety.). Even if I weren't, I strongly suspect my suspension was the result of someone vindictively reporting me and have no reason to think he or she wouldn't do so again. Additionally, since I announced the changes I've probably received 25-30 messages from irate TP players who apparently think I'm scum now.

In other words, I think thorough adherence to the community guidelines is advisable.

That said, I really think many people are overestimating the impact the changes will have on the game. Pills are gone, but at this point they were basically just shortcuts for +rom anyway, or a grind to content I'll fit in some other way. Blackmail BJ is gone(but not consensual BJ) but in retrospect I think it really clashed with the tone of the game anyway. The other changes are largely inconsequential. Mostly just nominal things like "daughter" -> "stepdaughter", "high school" -> "junior college" which could probably be modified by some nefarious modder (I do not endorse this, nefarious modders) if it really matters to you.

As for the ETA, I don't really have a good one at the moment. I was kind of a wreck during the suspension and didn't get much done other than checking my email constantly and emailing everyone I could think of to email. Now I have to go through the code making compliance changes. I realize it's been a long time since 1.62, but 1.7 is going to feature 2 of the highest quality interactive renders I've produced, and I've recently decided to add a new scene, perhaps partially animated (unless I go nuts and decide to do a 3rd full anim), that I think most of the fans will thoroughly enjoy.

I see. In the current climate however I strongly recommend getting a paid job mate. I understand your POV and your commitment to the project and level of engagement with your player base convinced me to contribute. However from my POV (and I’m sure quite a lot of your players/patrons) it’s just a few clicks away from cancelling payments, regardless of how agreeable they are with your planned changes. I’ve post on your Patreon beforre, there is no shortage of games to play atm, adult or not. Right now you’re asking people to trust you and your plans mate.

I’d much rather see you financially stable however long it takes until you can work on the game in your own time than trying to appease people AND worrying about your livelihood at the same time.
 

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This is a game I've downloaded, but not gotten around to play. Reading this thread, I really like the way you write and I'll make sure to play the next update. To me, it seems like you're good at seeing the bright side of things and that this whole mess inspired you to fix some things that were already bugging you, so my advice would be to follow your instinct and not bow down to demands of people who are hurt because you're "conforming". Follow whatever vision you see to be best and it'll likely both be more enjoyable to make and to play.
 
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Darth Helmet

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What happens with many of these projects is more than just "delays", let's be real here. When a creator gets paid several thousands of dollars each month, and substantial content updates only come about every half-year or so -especially when it consists of poorly written/translated dialogue, and static images using generic 3D assets on top of it-, then it's reason to be frustrated. At worst, it's a scam. At best, it's sheer incompetence from the devs.


On a side note, I'm fairly sure a significant portion of the people who visit this site come from 4chan. F95 gets mentioned in /weg/ all the time.
We both know the majority of people there don't support a developer financially. I said a few assholes, not the entire community. I'm also here from 4chan. If a game is delayed there's always a reason. I don't want buggy filled crap. Let's just agree that there's always that one person.
 

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I see. In the current climate however I strongly recommend getting a paid job mate. I understand your POV and your commitment to the project and level of engagement with your player base convinced me to contribute. However from my POV (and I’m sure quite a lot of your players/patrons) it’s just a few clicks away from cancelling payments, regardless of how agreeable they are with your planned changes. I’ve post on your Patreon beforre, there is no shortage of games to play atm, adult or not. Right now you’re asking people to trust you and your plans mate.

I’d much rather see you financially stable however long it takes until you can work on the game in your own time than trying to appease people AND worrying about your livelihood at the same time.
I went from 0 to $7000(bigger than the number you see because of instant pay) a month in about 4 months. That's with my first game having never used DAZ, Ren'Py, or even Python before. You think I'm going to let this set me back? There is a huge market for these games, and an even bigger untapped one.
 

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I went from 0 to $7000(bigger than the number you see because of instant pay) a month in about 4 months. That's with my first game having never used DAZ, Ren'Py, or even Python before. You think I'm going to let this set me back? There is a huge market for these games, and an even bigger untapped one.
You'll do fine. You have some real loyal followers. We here love the game and understand what you did and how things are. We're loyal pirates. Lol.
 
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You'll do fine. You have some real loyal followers. We here love the game and understand what you did and how things are. We're loyal pirates. Lol.
I'm confident that once 1.7 comes out I'll get a big bump. Not only is there fan favorite content, there is a publicity stunt of sorts that is sure to reach a large audience.
 
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