Flash Abandoned Teraurge [v2.13] [Meandraco]

[BaloneyAmone]

If I remember correctly he is a Finnish guy living in Finland. There the minimal monthly salary for an 8hr job is around 1200€. But the median is around 4000€. What he gets on patreon now is 886€ minus what patreon removes before paying out (i have no idea). So it isn't much for the country he is living in, but still he got in the last two years around 19200€ for 208h of total work (2 streams/week for an 1hr). Which is a 92€/h salary.
But I know, I should go and f*** myself questioning the great and mighty MD, because he is "working on V3, even with hurt feelings."

Disregarding the fact that he lives in Finland, which frankly is punishment enough, who cares about how much money he makes from people who most likely don't care that he's not constantly working on it? It's not like it's his job or anything, it's just a side hustle that people decide to monetarily support. That's what separates him from the typical Patreon grifter: he doesn't compose himself as "I'm making [product], give me money so I can continue making it", and then turn around and take the money and run, he just does what he wants -- and if people give him money, that's their prerogative. This sort of psycho logic of "well if he makes x dollars across y timeframe, we can use the formula f(z)= √[(x/y)^2] to determine how many z discrete labor units he makes, and since presently z is CLEARLY less than the prescribed minimum of (z/12)+log(10)x builds per month, he's officially scamming everyone and should be reported to Interpol for this offense", you inevitably come off as overtly entitled, because he's just indulging in a personal project and is electing to share it with others, not trying to make a career out of it. Your overt concern with his income makes you look like you think he's grabbing the cash out of your wallet and blowing it all on sports cars, and then proceeding to laugh at your face before making out with a hot girl from Alpha Centauri while going 120 through a red light in Downtown Brooklyn. That's why he's offended: people are building an idea of who he is in their heads and proceeding to assign expectations, and then go and lash out at him when he doesn't fit to the standards that he had no idea could even be manifested by any individual who knew anything about him. And, since him apparently not compromising the integrity of the project by rushing it out for a bunch of vocal nobodies is their problem, why not just step back until their throats get raw so he can continue in peace?
But if you'd like to have a quickie with one of your clones, by all means, I'm not stopping you.

P.S. you can say fuck on the internet. There is far more horrendous stuff on this forum than a single curse word.

Ninja edit: this is the first essay I've typed out on this website. I hope you're honored to have made me manifest this.

 

[spacecorpse337]

this feels like yandere dev all over again I'm kind of glad i didn't give this guy money

 

[Decckar]

this feels like yandere dev all over again I'm kind of glad i didn't give this guy money

If you legitimately think Meandraco is ANYTHING like YanDev, you don't know hardly anything about YanDev. I don't even know much about either one, but the things I do know make me absolutely certain YanDev is a horrific little gremlin of a man and Meandraco is just like... an artist who's maybe tired of some peoples' shit.

 

[BobCarter]

this feels like yandere dev all over again I'm kind of glad i didn't give this guy money

If you thought the money was going to the game, you likely shouldn't have donated. This said he's an art guy and a steamer, not a crazy old man with shit old code.

 

[nanajosh]

Ninja edit: this is the first essay I've typed out on this website. I hope you're honored to have made me manifest this.

The problem with making essays forums and online in general, not a lot of people are gonna read it. Having read yours though I agree with you. One question though. Has he explicitly said that this is a side project that he's not looking to sell? I think getting that across would stop or lower the "how long?" and "you a scammer" commenters. A simple *WARNING; THIS IS A SIDE PROJECT AND WILL BE UPDATED SELDOMLY* would go a long way at keeping people from complaining to him about updates.

Thoughts?

 

[BaloneyAmone]

The problem with making essays forums and online in general, not a lot of people are gonna read it. Having read yours though I agree with you. One question though. Has he explicitly said that this is a side project that he's not looking to sell? I think getting that across would stop or lower the "how long?" and "you a scammer" commenters. A simple *WARNING; THIS IS A SIDE PROJECT AND WILL BE UPDATED SELDOMLY* would go a long way at keeping people from complaining to him about updates.

Thoughts?

I used "side hustle" in the sense that it isn't his career focus, not that it's a side project; in terms of output, I'd imagine it's still his main project. Regardless, given that the game is free and I don't think it ever had any paid builds, I'd imagine he's not trying to sell it.

 

[DuckDafer]

this feels like yandere dev all over again I'm kind of glad i didn't give this guy money

Don't pretend you were going to give him money either way.

 

[nanajosh]

this feels like yandere dev all over again I'm kind of glad i didn't give this guy money

Far from that. Yandere dev has issues.

 

[Kerapac]

I was thinking about being his patron, but after that things, i changed my mind

 

[Syljon]

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Heres a guide for making TU characters that might be added to the game.

 

[absolutefrogge]

Really not liking the popular centiment here.
Gonna sayit right now - I am not his patron or anything. I wanna see V3 and the full game as much as the next guy, but you're really not solving much by complaining here. Just repeatedly saying "this guy is too slow I regret giving him money" or "man I'm glad I didn't give him money in the first place" is just going to postpone the product even further.
If you're one of the patrons for this game and you're angry at production time - look at it this way:
If he is working on the game - your complaints really do make him feel bad and may at some point make him quit.
If he's not making the game - you've already lost your money and your complaints are just yelling at the void.
Instead of complaining, try to encourage him. Complaints just lowerour chances of receiving the actual game.
Once again - not a shill. I only wanna see v3

 

[godofthevoid]

dose this even still update anymore

 

[WhereAreTheFemaleAnimals]

dose this even still update anymore

Last update was 2 years ago I think. Despite the bitching and moaning of the jobless basement dwellers, there are signs that Meandraco hasn't completely abandoned the game yet. However, there is no Eta for v3. It started that v3 would be ui improvements but it sounds like it's become more; likely due to people whining that it wasn't big enough of an update. Look for other games to play and check in on this one every few months. Unless you become disinterested, which is fair.

 

[TheWindsOfChange]

Last update was 2 years ago I think. Despite the bitching and moaning of the jobless basement dwellers, there are signs that Meandraco hasn't completely abandoned the game yet. However, there is no Eta for v3. It started that v3 would be ui improvements but it sounds like it's become more; likely due to people whining that it wasn't big enough of an update. Look for other games to play and check in on this one every few months. Unless you become disinterested, which is fair.

He's been using his art streams to make concept art for the game. Whether or not all of them guaranteed to make it into the game isn't known.

 

[Chainjailhunter]

dose this even still update anymore

There's no ETA for the next update and MD will generally refuse to give any detailed information about what's been done so far. That said I don't think the next update will be out this year.

 

[Decckar]

See, I've been checking in on it every few months for two years now and at this point I'm pretty sure he just wants to be an art streamer but doesn't want to lose any supporters by announcing that he's not actually working on the game.

The amount of people that pledge for just the game vs the amount of people that pledge for his art is pretty miniscule. You're going to have to try a different angle from the greed angle, since we've already established that's pretty severely unlikely.

 

[WhereAreTheFemaleAnimals]

See, I've been checking in on it every few months for two years now and at this point I'm pretty sure he just wants to be an art streamer but doesn't want to lose any supporters by announcing that he's not actually working on the game.

The amount of people that pledge for just the game vs the amount of people that pledge for his art is pretty miniscule. You're going to have to try a different angle from the greed angle, since we've already established that's pretty severely unlikely.

Yea, wish there were separate patreons for the art and the game so the number can better reflect what's going on there. But I'm inclined to agree with Decckar; with how long the game's taken to update, the people donating solely for the game have probably already canceled their payments while those that haven't yet are likely content with his art.

It does suck. I had this similar situation with an equine artist that also wrote fanfiction porn and was great at both... but then he stopped writing but kept going on with the art.

 

[Unit 2 Type B]

after waiting on new berserk "chapters" (they aren't very long) for months at a time only for them to be about griffith, this is nothing in comparison. i'll gladly wait a couple years for more of this artstyle

 

[nanajosh]

Really not liking the popular centiment here.
Gonna sayit right now - I am not his patron or anything. I wanna see V3 and the full game as much as the next guy, but you're really not solving much by complaining here. Just repeatedly saying "this guy is too slow I regret giving him money" or "man I'm glad I didn't give him money in the first place" is just going to postpone the product even further.
If you're one of the patrons for this game and you're angry at production time - look at it this way:
If he is working on the game - your complaints really do make him feel bad and may at some point make him quit.
If he's not making the game - you've already lost your money and your complaints are just yelling at the void.
Instead of complaining, try to encourage him. Complaints just lowerour chances of receiving the actual game.
Once again - not a shill. I only wanna see v3

Couldn't agree more but mostly when it comes to free games (which to my understanding this is going to be a free game so the complaining is stupid and does nothing but kills motivation. If you wanna donate to him do so, if you don't? Then don't)

 

[nanajosh]

after waiting on new berserk "chapters" (they aren't very long) for months at a time only for them to be about griffith, this is nothing in comparison. i'll gladly wait a couple years for more of this artstyle

I concur. Haven't seen a lot xenophilia like his and it tickles me so well