VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P2a] [Mircom3D]

[Adviar5050]

I really enjoy the game and since I enjoy it I always look for ways to improve it. These are not criticisms they are just ways that I think the game could be even better. The first thing is Martin. I think the way it should have been written is Annie acts towards him the same way she does if you pick the "no martin" path. She gets angry when he tries stuff with her and at no time does she give in. But then he starts to wear her down and at first she does a little bit of playing with him but then we see her feeling guilty about it since Tony told her he was a no go. You can then add more scenes that either proceed the relationship with Martin or cut it off (these could be choices by the player). I think a slow burn with a slow corruption of Annie with Martin would have been better than just an "either or" from the start. Like I said it's not a criticism it's just what I think would have made a more interesting story. There isn't another character in the game that would have that slow burn which would have made Martin a more interesting character. Anyway, that's just my thoughts, doesn't make them right, doesn't make them wrong, just makes them mine.

 

[Tinman021]

Why when I tried to install android P1a, it said app not installed as package appears to be invalid?

Also the prompt mentioned update installation, not install new app for the S2.

 

[TonyMurray]

You need to avoid the cinema too. Anne will give the lad sat next to him a handjob before asking if she can fuck him

Yeah, I was doing that for speed anyway, but if I remember rightly it's just a hj there too unless you give the go ahead for Anne to fuck him. Not sure if there's any repercussions for denying her that, but based on other examples, I would suggest not.

Now my main issue with specifically the Anne cheating path is the fact you get the choice to put her in it. So she's therefore cheating on Tony with no narrative reason. I mean I know it's a porn game but still...

Yeah, literally just to see the route/scenes I guess. It gives a handy "save here for branching" point.

Interestingly, today in our little "cuck Queen no sharing" route experiment I discovered that if you deny Anne every opportunity to sleep with a man despite working her up. You have the number of points needed to get on path automatically. I don't think that is a coincidence. Treat Anne shit, she'll go elsewhere.

I was surprised though about the points. I think it was mentioned earlier about dropping points when you deny Anne, but I only found one example (when you decide not to invite Cornell back to your room while on holiday). Even pulling Anne out of the hot tub with the guys doesn't result in any dropped points.

Unless I missed any (and I was checking), there are three pick up points available if you avoid the massage. Denying Cornell is -1, so that makes a likely 12 relationship points by the time you get to Martin on the beach. I believe the choice activates at 14 points, so I guess it's well worked.

I would have expected a bit more movement though, to be honest. Some of the plus points you get are for not a lot, and it's stuff you do at other times too, so I would expect them in both cases or neither. Same with the minus points. I think relationship points in total are underused in this game. I suppose it might get tricky trying to balance it to choose the right number for the Martin choice to activate, but it would definitely be workable.

 

[BlenderGuy]

Yeah, I was doing that for speed anyway, but if I remember rightly it's just a hj there too unless you give the go ahead for Anne to fuck him. Not sure if there's any repercussions for denying her that, but based on other examples, I would suggest not.

Yeah, literally just to see the route/scenes I guess. It gives a handy "save here for branching" point.

I was surprised though about the points. I think it was mentioned earlier about dropping points when you deny Anne, but I only found one example (when you decide not to invite Cornell back to your room while on holiday). Even pulling Anne out of the hot tub with the guys doesn't result in any dropped points.

Unless I missed any (and I was checking), there are three pick up points available if you avoid the massage. Denying Cornell is -1, so that makes a likely 12 relationship points by the time you get to Martin on the beach. I believe the choice activates at 14 points, so I guess it's well worked.

I would have expected a bit more movement though, to be honest. Some of the plus points you get are for not a lot, and it's stuff you do at other times too, so I would expect them in both cases or neither. Same with the minus points. I think relationship points in total are underused in this game. I suppose it might get tricky trying to balance it to choose the right number for the Martin choice to activate, but it would definitely be workable.

The spa scene is super odd to me. It's hot but I feel it can be too much if you allow it.

It escalates into her fucking a bunch of random guys. With the guy she actually likes getting to be the third guy she fucks.

 

[TonyMurray]

The spa scene is super odd to me. It's hot but I feel it can be too much if you allow it.

It escalates into her fucking a bunch of random guys. With the guy she actually likes getting to be the third guy she fucks.

I get that. It's the point where she goes from just flashing and teasing to all of a sudden giving a blowjob and then being licked out and finally fucked, with the last being the only one with specific input from Tony (but not choice based). It was hot, but I think it did progress too quickly considering how she had previously been about it all. It's like a switch was flicked but I feel it should have been a more gradual change.

Also, the balls on the guy to start dicking her after she specifically said "no fucking" and he knows her husband is watching from just feet away...

 

[BlenderGuy]

I get that. It's the point where she goes from just flashing and teasing to all of a sudden giving a blowjob and then being licked out and finally fucked, with the last being the only one with specific input from Tony (but not choice based). It was hot, but I think it did progress too quickly considering how she had previously been about it all. It's like a switch was flicked but I feel it should have been a more gradual change.

Also, the balls on the guy to start dicking her after she specifically said "no fucking" and he knows her husband is watching from just feet away...

I loved how it went from him then saying he was using the head only to Tony saying "he's already further, honey!"
Could be to show how pushing Anne also means Tony becomes harder to control as a character too.

But yea, I think when it came to actually doing her first penetration, it should have been more of an event for them.

 

[TonyMurray]

I loved how it went from him then saying he was using the head only to Tony saying "he's already further, honey!"
Could be to show how pushing Anne also means Tony becomes harder to control as a character too.

But yea, I think when it came to actually doing her first penetration, it should have been more of an event for them.

At least the first wasn't Kenny though, where you're not there and only see it second hand.

 

[Justaphase]

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Sam def has the most punchable face in any VN.

Wrong "couple" game?

 

[Tinman021]

Why when I tried to install android P1a, it said app not installed as package appears to be invalid?

Also the prompt mentioned update installation, not install new app for the S2.

 

[Lagunavii]

Unless I missed any (and I was checking), there are three pick up points available if you avoid the massage. Denying Cornell is -1, so that makes a likely 12 relationship points by the time you get to Martin on the beach. I believe the choice activates at 14 points, so I guess it's well worked.

Denying cornell is - 1
Not letting her show boobs on beach is a -1
Is refusing to sleep with her another - 1?

And then obviously there are chances here and there to get +1

It's very well worked cause without those 10 points at the start you are in the Martin path by being an arsehole to her... And let's face it, if you didn't take the 10 points you're cheating on your wife and being an arsehole

The issue is it's too balanced to make it this way. Why do I get +10 for turning down a HJ but not - 10 for accepting. Why do I not gain points for turning down Nicole? Why do I loose points for denying cornell but when I do it at the spa Anne is equally as pissed. I tell Anne one day not to flash her boobs, - 1 tell her another... Not so much

 

[TonyMurray]

Denying cornell is - 1
Not letting her show boobs on beach is a -1
Is refusing to sleep with her another - 1?

Yeah, I was only checking what deductions you get as a result of not letting her fuck anyone else, so I let her flash and I made sure to have fun with her whenever the opportunity came up.

It's very well worked cause without those 10 points at the start you are in the Martin path by being an arsehole to her... And let's face it, if you didn't take the 10 points you're cheating on your wife and being an arsehole

Or you're lazy - I think the alternative to getting a massage in the first place is something like lounging around in bed?

The issue is it's too balanced to make it this way. Why do I get +10 for turning down a HJ but not - 10 for accepting. Why do I not gain points for turning down Nicole? Why do I loose points for denying cornell but when I do it at the spa Anne is equally as pissed. I tell Anne one day not to flash her boobs, - 1 tell her another... Not so much

Yeah, this is the bit that I don't get, the inconsistency. There should definitely be at least a minus point in the spa, I would say she is probably more pissed there than she was when you stop her inviting Cornell back. Nicole should definitely be involved in points too, but it does just seem weird that the massage hj is the one that gets you the plus points (but no minus). Even if it was a case of telling Anne and getting the points when you explain that you remained faithful, you can have that with other girls as well (although maybe telling her that Nicole propositioned you could hurt their friendship, so you might not want to do that).

 

[Lagunavii]

Or you're lazy - I think the alternative to getting a massage in the first place is something like lounging around in bed?

Yes there is definitely an option not to do it, cause I took it in speedrun thinking it would be faster.


But the points are definitely inconsistent and again this brings me to the endings... If the points value are going to determine them ie above 20 happy ending below 20 there's needs to be consistancy with points.

Heres an idea... If you are going to let the player choose if Anne cheats or not, that's fine. But if we choose it, drop the points to reflect.... There is absolute no. Rhyme or reason why the score should be 20+ if one or both are being unfaithful.

 

[Tinman021]

Don't know what exactly happened on your side and which files you downloaded but all versions I tried are working flawlessly.

From the66:

• TAC'OS Season 1 (part 9b)
• TAC'OS Season 2 (part 1b)

From estrada777 + wt-mod + gallery-mod:

• TAC'OS Season 1 (part 9b)
• TAC'OS Season 2 (part 1b)

I only download APK from the first post, always. Only used those used by OP.

The porter of the android version is cebs though.

 

[88stanford88]

Bearing in mind that I don't intend to pass judgement on this game, for the sake of discussion I'd say that as long as it's not ONE PATH = ONE ENDING, I wouldn't mind that one of the consequences of the unfaithful path be a bad ending, or multiple bad endings, with separation being one of them, the MC ending like a broken cuck being another, etc. But I would disagree that such endings have to stem NECESSARILY from unfaithfulness in a relationship. I don't believe that "crime equals punishment" is a good enough motive to invest time writing a story around.

I flatly agree with you! If a story is written from the point of view that “crime equals punishment” wanting to carry it with a term that everyone can easily understand. is from a typical writer who does not want to antagonize the minister of a fascist regime, in fact only in moralistic and totalitarian regimes does a crime of sexual infidelity provide for humiliating and public punishment.. (this is provably the bad ending that some here would like to see)

I'm really looking forward to finding a game that deals with this in a more complex way. A game where characters don't readily accept all broken boundaries, as if they were made of marble rather than flesh and bone (and ego) - which is sometimes what sharing/swinging games seem like; where they get really pissed off, fuss about it, take action on it, but also where they can come to an understanding, despite the storm, restore their broken trust and rekindle their love, realising, perhaps to their surprise, that what they feel about each other matters more even than your shattered imaged of their integrity and trustworthiness. And, perhaps, that fixing things is a project and takes some effort, rather than just making another promise.

I really think you've found the game you're looking for

As long as there are valid actions/options the MC can use to steer through the turmoil, I can see different endings coexisting without losing the idea that actions have consequences.

Not only that, your point is certainly present in this story but following the logic of what I call “the original plan of the male protagonist” here we are faced with the fact that my wife Anne has also blatantly accepted her husband's plan. And this perhaps makes the story even more complex and it is impossible to have only ONE PATH = ONE ENDING.
It seems to me certain that there will be endings that will also involve my wife Anne to consider the consequences of her own actions.

What I mean, in short, is that I don't like conceptual moral rules, but that doesn't mean I rule out morality altogether. If the story is built in such a way that you have to be an egotistical maniac to make your wife cheat on you, then by all means, let there be pain and gnashing of teeth for you. But if it's possible to get there while the MC is still invested in her and in their relationship - because of impulse, or miscommunication, or even a bout of egoism in what could mostly be considered a mutually respecting relationship - I'd love to see how they'd fuss and fight, and then end up looking again at each other and hoe far they've come, and realising how everything else is relative.

I don't act like a maniac, in fact when I was 16 I wanted to fuck her whenever I could and she didn't mind at all...so if you call me a maniac Anne is too.... we both are. it remains clear that for me and my wife our relationship is very important to both of us. A relationship that exceeds 9 years and that began when we were both 18 years old (or earlier in my personal case) is an important relationship that will be imprinted in our memory until the end of our days.
in the game now e are about 27 years old (by legal rules an adult game cannot have characters under 18 in the story. but in real life you can have relationships between minors, especially if they are the same age. so... )

I'm probably being idealistic. From what I gather, some people here actually lived relationships with some elements as what we're discussing... I haven't. Probably 90% of human beings would react in one way or another, and I'm likely one of them. I have no idea if I could in real life deal with betrayal in any other way, but isn't that part of what games/stories are for, to read about and think about what you're not experiencing in your day-to-day life?

i am one of those who went through an important relationship that after 7 years made us decide that we had to open up to other experiences because it would be absurd to throw away all the good things we had together..that relationship lasted for 15 years in all..sure there were ups and downs..but in the end when you are 25 and the relationship lasts until about 35,,,, we realized that we couldn't hate each other. The best years of our lives couldn't be thrown in the garbage pail...so we still have the pictures and we are still in touch (she lives in another city she had no other major relationships also due she had to take care of her sick mom for i while...and I on the other hand got married to a girl she knows) I still love her

 

[reidanota]

here we are faced with the fact that my wife Anne has also blatantly accepted her husband's plan.

Off topic, but your using of the first person in this conversation makes me think that's the element I'm missing in my AI prompt. I've set up a scenario in kobolcpp that lets me roleplay kinky games with the AI. It's limited by the fact that I don't know how to create a memory database for the AI to refer to, so games end after a while because the AI loses track of what went on a while back. I try hard to nudge the AI to go NTR on my character, but it's hard af. Given a choice, the AI will always make decisions that it calculates will satisfy me, and it calculates from a common wisdom perspective, even through positive and negative prompting. But if I do my prompts in first person, and give her instructions related to how it should deal with ME, maybe I'll have more success?

 

[88stanford88]

About the very interesting cuckquean topic

I realized today that the seventh type of cuckquean was missing and it seems to be the one that fits with the storyline

The Wing Cuckquean is perfect for this game
so now I am convinced that the kind of cuckquean who is included in the story of our adventurous couple is only the type 7...
it makes perfect sense with the story of our game

Unless I missed any (and I was checking), there are three pick up points available if you avoid the massage. Denying Cornell is -1, so that makes a likely 12 relationship points by the time you get to Martin on the beach. I believe the choice activates at 14 points, so I guess it's well worked.

I think you are missing your head with the adventurous couple (sorry it's just an easy joke)
here's my path accepting everything... i said everything-- I always say yes to my beloved wife: I don't need the 10 points at massage parlor I NEED THE MASSAGE!

first I invited Ryan because my plan is to train my wife well so she can get accustomed into having me along with other men around who admire her--she has to feel comfortable in my presence.
I am not sure if this is essential in order to recover love points but I am following my original plan which does not include prohibitions
After talking with Anne about Ryan i go for the massage parlor and I get a blowjob from Fernanda because my big 25-year-old cock really needed it -yeah it was great!
I never knew from the first time I played that there was a possibility of having 10 relationship points in just one go especially without talking with my wife .. and frankly it doesn't make any sense since the points are only about the health of the relationship between me and my wife... I don't see how she could know that I refused the massage with happy ending which is usually not even considered cheating

this nonsense is only in the first massage scene.. but after that when i go for massages i fuck Fernanda and this can be consider fr sure cheating and from NOW ON the points will change ONLY IN DIRECT DIALOGUES WITHIN ME AND ANNE!
from start until day 24 there are no changes in the score (10 love points) unless the husband starts to forbid Anne to do what we both decided in the plan
On the night of day 24 I can recover 1 point "Have sex with Anne" and on day 26 I recover another point if I eat her pussy After that the other points are during the vacation in Punta Cana sure baby I'm training you well to be more confident bc this is our plan to spice up our marriage. Cornell is great start for you. And before sleep after talking about Cornell there is a +1 point for you as you can see the plan allows us to have sex and both she and I experience pleasure that we haven't had in years...
The next day I prepare to also have my fun with other girls, I don't understand why only she should have fun with Cornell's fresh cock and I can't experience fresh pussy especially if the fresh pussy is named Elena the same day in the evening and here there is another +1 but of course I choose to join them I deserve it. I want be the first threesome experience I have to partecipate with my wife and a BBC to encourage her (I don't fear size comparisons with BBCs)
So now we are at 14 love points and today the health of the relationship with my wife has never been better in previous years.
The vacation continues and after fuck with Tina and Trina in the meanwhile she is with Tom&Jerry... oops Harry I think I clean her pussy with love.. and the last day of vacation arrives. I just have to be honest at the right time with my wife to get another nice +1
we have now 15 points without avoiding Fernanda at the massage parlor. At this point the player is ready to get the Martin choice at the beach this is my main path! Allow everything, fucking ever pussy I want and all the cocks Anne want (with some hint from me to encourage her) ....for both Anne and Me by respecting each other and the original plan we both accepted in the prologue in order to save our marriage
This is the most balanced path in the game!

The issue is it's too balanced to make it this way. Why do I get +10 for turning down a HJ but not - 10 for accepting. Why do I not gain points for turning down Nicole? Why do I loose points for denying cornell but when I do it at the spa Anne is equally as pissed. I tell Anne one day not to flash her boobs, - 1 tell her another... Not so much

The issue is as I explained ....
1. that those 10 points in one blow are a trap for those who want to remain faithful to my wife by going completely against her husband's MC plan...in fact if there were not those 10 points you would soon get to ZERO and get a divorce finding out that while you were fixated on monogamous fidelity...while you were working and she was leaving to work as a flight attendant or for workout at the gym Anne was getting fucked by Dre and the whole hockey team in the gym and flying to Las Vegas marry Martin to humiliate you for life.

2. Did you read the prologue? I am THE ONE asking my wife that we need to open our relationship so that it can continue...once I have said this with what face can I take it back?

3. Have you ever encountered in dialogue between you and my wife where she tells you that she does not want to accept the original plan?

4.Did you ever tell Anne that the plan you were talking about was all a joke?

5. Did Anne ever tell you that she wouldn't want to fuck Cornell? If you stop her, you lose love points because in her eyes you become pathetic. You are a man who can't even respect what you yourself told her to do only 2 months before--and who didn't even warn her that you changed your mind.

Off topic, but your using of the first person in this conversation makes me think that's the element I'm missing in my AI prompt. I've set up a scenario in kobolcpp that lets me roleplay kinky games with the AI. It's limited by the fact that I don't know how to create a memory database for the AI to refer to, so games end after a while because the AI loses track of what went on a while back. I try hard to nudge the AI to go NTR on my character, but it's hard af. Given a choice, the AI will always make decisions that it calculates will satisfy me, and it calculates from a common wisdom perspective, even through positive and negative prompting. But if I do my prompts in first person, and give her instructions related to how it should deal with ME, maybe I'll have more success?

usually i do not replay to OT but.... I think... I'm not AI expert...
anyway
provably because marriage is a religious sacrament...try not using the word marriage or include as a premise that your wife was very popular as a slut in college and that's why you married her...you need to use a prologue which AI must adhere to

 

[Lagunavii]

Oh my god, here we go again. A few people having random chats about the game mechanics and debating fairly and in comes Stanford with his wall of text and images about how we are all wrong based on his plan

*yawn*

But just to be clear about the plan you keep referring too it's there in the prologue and the description... It's to share Anne. Not share and and have your share of woman.. Just Share Anne.

What you fail to realise is while you may RP as Tony... Depending on thevplaytgrough there's actually many different Tonys

There is faithful Tony
There is swinger Tony
There is cucked Tony etc

Just because you have your preferred version doesn't mean others are wrong. Esp when there are a few of us here who are running multiple playthroughs

 

[sagerock820]

Just ignore him, I do. I play 'sharing' Tony. I hate the word 'cuck', it implies humiliation. I hate humiliation.

 

[Lagunavii]

Just ignore him, I do. I play 'sharing' Tony. I hate the word 'cuck', it implies humiliation. I hate humiliation.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Due to fetish reasons the term cuck has changed... I think the term for you in Stag...

 

[88stanford88]

Just because you have your preferred version doesn't mean others are wrong. Esp when there are a few of us here who are running multiple playthroughs

of course you are right... I also play other paths but you were talking about "too balanced" or "unbalance" point system
YOU ASKED WHY 10 POINTS IF I REFUSE FERNANDA IN MASSAGE PARLOR

I just say you why my path is the most balanced ... I'm following the prologue and the plan while you are going against the plan that no one NO THE MC NOR THE LI have never said the was no more valid...

It is just the logic of the plot.
This is the game we are playing.