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Daggum (the dev) is a big football fan himself. He does a lot of research before putting anything into the game. If you want to discuss it more with him, feel free to come over and join the Discord server.

I am an American but I hate the NFL, I love 'real' football. I am Bayern Munich fan. (y)
 
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I'm sort of torn, because it's a football game so I want to see football, but at the same time, it's hard to do stills (and even animations) that look even remotely realistic, or just "not comical". Not to mention the kits and especially the boots that just look odd regardless of pose. So I think little snippets here and there is good, but with the majority of the football content be "behind the scenes" stuff, since that is where our MC focus is. If the MC was a player, or maybe the manager/coach, I would expect to see more actual football, but he isn't.

As a side note though, I do appreciate the new kits that were previewed - less sexy, but far more realistic and functional.
 

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What's you guys take on what will happen with the MC’s relationship with the girls, especially Hana cause on the later parts of the story she's acting differently.
 

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Daggum (the dev) is a big football fan himself. He does a lot of research before putting anything into the game. If you want to discuss it more with him, feel free to come over and join the Discord server.

I am an American but I hate the NFL, I love 'real' football. I am Bayern Munich fan. (y)
Real football... important statement. I hate football because in Italy it's the most important sport. It's all anyone talks about, and often the fans and players are arrogant and think they're better than everyone else. For example, I used to play tennis at a sports centre that had tennis courts (clay) and football pitches. In winter, instead of warming up by running on the football pitch, the footballers preferred to find a heated indoor tennis court and run there with their studded boots on. Or, at the end of training, they would cross the tennis court to get to the changing rooms, ignoring anyone who was playing and had to stop to let them pass. And, of course, they always wore their studded boots. Rude and arrogant. But they are footballers and tennis players are secondary. Nadal had to win Roland Garros 12 times before making the front page of Italian sports newspapers. Obviously, he also made it there the 13th and 14th time.
But before the 12th time, no one gave a damn about him. It was an article in the second half of the newspapers after all the pages and pages talking about football, Serie A, Serie B, Serie C, foreign football, transfer rumours and only after all that, Nadal and his Roland Garros.
I find it unbearable. Fortunately, Sinner has arrived and now things are changing quickly.

EDIT: I saw another unusual front page when Kobe Bryant died. No one cared when he retired or anything he had done. All the articles were in the second half of the newspaper, after they had talked about football, even the minor leagues. At least when he died, he made the front page.
 
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Did ivi simply whore Zach to get hester? What a disappointment. With all her rules and ideologies. A real disappointment.
 
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Did ivi simply whore Zach to get hester? What a disappointment. With all her rules and ideologies. A real disappointment.
I'm not disappointed by being whored because I do like both Kiki and Hester. But I am disappointed by the inconsistency of the writing. I expect some sort of suspension of disbelief when playing porn game, but it's still jarring to see contradictory characteristics. "Don't hit on the girls" but "hit on the potential new girls to recruit them" (and to a certain degree, "it's ok if we hit on each other") is just messy that could've been solved easily by not having the "Don't hit on the girls" to begin with.

But yeah, still not anywhere near the worst games, so I'll just turn see where this game goes.
 
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I'm not disappointed by being whored because I do like both Kiki and Hester. But I am disappointed by the inconsistency of the writing. I expect some sort of suspension of disbelief when playing porn game, but it's still jarring to see contradictory characteristics. "Don't hit on the girls" but "hit on the potential new girls to recruit them" (and to a certain degree, "it's ok if we hit on each other") is just messy that could've been solved easily by not having the "Don't hit on the girls" to begin with.

But yeah, still not anywhere near the worst games, so I'll just turn see where this game goes.
Can you stop polluting this thread, please? You've given this remarkable game a two star rating, so you clearly hate it. I can't understand why you are still here, walking your dirty shoes over the clean white carpet of this thread. Based on your review and recent comments, you don't even seem to understand the story, or the difference between "writing" and "characters". Please just stop playing, or at least stop posting here and irritating the majority of the fans that visit this thread, appreciate the game and the brilliant writing and story. Peace out.
 
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Can you stop polluting this thread, please? You've given this remarkable game a two star rating, so you clearly hate it. I can't understand why you are still here, walking your dirty shoes over the clean white carpet of this thread. Based on your review and recent comments, you don't even seem to understand the story, or the difference between "writing" and "characters". Please just stop playing, or at least stop posting here and irritating the majority of the fans that visit this thread, appreciate the game and the brilliant writing and story. Peace out.
Discussing the game in the game thread is not equal to "polluting the thread", and giving a two-star rating is not equal to "hating the game", and asterix69 is not equal to "the thread's gatekeeper, who decides who can post and what."
 

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Can you stop polluting this thread, please? You've given this remarkable game a two star rating, so you clearly hate it. I can't understand why you are still here, walking your dirty shoes over the clean white carpet of this thread. Based on your review and recent comments, you don't even seem to understand the story, or the difference between "writing" and "characters". Please just stop playing, or at least stop posting here and irritating the majority of the fans that visit this thread, appreciate the game and the brilliant writing and story. Peace out.
I'm sorry.
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I'm not disappointed by being whored because I do like both Kiki and Hester. But I am disappointed by the inconsistency of the writing. I expect some sort of suspension of disbelief when playing porn game, but it's still jarring to see contradictory characteristics. "Don't hit on the girls" but "hit on the potential new girls to recruit them" (and to a certain degree, "it's ok if we hit on each other") is just messy that could've been solved easily by not having the "Don't hit on the girls" to begin with.

But yeah, still not anywhere near the worst games, so I'll just turn see where this game goes.
Yes, indeed. That's actually a point where the author lost touch with the characters and the story a little. Definitely not the best scene in the game.
 
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Did ivi simply whore Zach to get hester? What a disappointment. With all her rules and ideologies. A real disappointment.
I'm not disappointed by being whored because I do like both Kiki and Hester. But I am disappointed by the inconsistency of the writing. I expect some sort of suspension of disbelief when playing porn game, but it's still jarring to see contradictory characteristics. "Don't hit on the girls" but "hit on the potential new girls to recruit them" (and to a certain degree, "it's ok if we hit on each other") is just messy that could've been solved easily by not having the "Don't hit on the girls" to begin with.

But yeah, still not anywhere near the worst games, so I'll just turn see where this game goes.
I don't see that as being inconsistent writing. It shows that Ivy is willing to overlook her principles in the pursuit of winning because she is the coach. It makes sense that the coach is willing to bend the rules of the club if she thinks it will give them a competitive edge.
 
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I don't see that as being inconsistent writing. It shows that Ivy is willing to overlook her principles in the pursuit of winning because she is the coach. It makes sense that the coach is willing to bend the rules of the club if she thinks it will give them a competitive edge.
Where I come from, we have a saying: you can't get things by investing other people's asses.
 

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I don't see that as being inconsistent writing. It shows that Ivy is willing to overlook her principles in the pursuit of winning because she is the coach. It makes sense that the coach is willing to bend the rules of the club if she thinks it will give them a competitive edge.
Yep can't be more realistic than that after following some stories (most probably just huge speculation) on the current European men's football start of season trading market :LOL: Some clubs do almost everything to get some players and do some messed up mind/money games on some players heads hehe.

There is a international board rule/law that the players with contract can't be reached by other clubs before the club that has the player allow it but it is easily bent because most players have agents, so they contact the agents instead lmao.
 
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Yep can't be more realistic than that after following some stories (most probably just huge speculation) on the current European men's football start of season trading market :LOL: Some clubs do almost everything to get some players and do some messed up mind/money games on some players heads hehe.

There is a international board rule/law that the players with contract can't be reached by other clubs before that said club allow it but it is easily bent because most players have agents, so they contact the agents instead lmao.
True, but that's not how Ivi is. Throughout the game, she gave different signals, except there.
 

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True, but that's not how Ivi is. Throughout the game, she gave different signals, except there.
She is still a coach and wants the best players, until they aren't their players most internal rules won't apply. Once they are they "dance" at the coach/manager/owner of the club rules. Don't overthink it, it happens in almost every professional football club.
 

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I'm not going to reply too many times about this because I don't want to walk with my dirty shoes on this white carpet, but thought it's worthwhile to respond to explain a bit more of my thought process about this topic since some people decided to have discussion about this.

I don't see that as being inconsistent writing. It shows that Ivy is willing to overlook her principles in the pursuit of winning because she is the coach. It makes sense that the coach is willing to bend the rules of the club if she thinks it will give them a competitive edge.
The problem with this logic IMO is that she's the one who made the rule herself. It's not so much of her willing to break someone else's rule (and suffer the consequence) to achieve the goal because she thinks the rule restricts her to get the best outcome. This is just her breaking her own self-imposed rule that has no consequence when broken. There is no willpower needed to do that.

If her principle is so easily overlooked like that, then clearly the principle is not that important. Hence, my comment about being avoidable if that principle didn't exist to begin with. This is further supported in the last update when Lotta mentioned about how the rule doesn't really apply to MC because he doesn't have any meaningful authority in the team anyway, and she's even willing to help MC hook up with the girls.

All in all, the whole "no dating" rule doesn't really serve any purpose in the game so far other than just for being broken and ignored.

It shows that Ivy is willing to overlook her principles in the pursuit of winning because she is the coach. It makes sense that the coach is willing to bend the rules of the club if she thinks it will give them a competitive edge.
Also, if this were true that she's willing to bend the rules to gain advantage, then the rule should have some leeway. But instead, what we got from the game is this. Zero tolerance means strict application with no negotiation and without exception. Yet, she's the one who broke it herself and of course no consequence.
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I want to end this by saying that it doesn't mean the game is shit or anything like that just because of having inconsistencies. I'm simply saying that I prefer it if it was more consistent. For this particular case, the dev realized this themselves because they wrote MC to be consciously confused as to why Ivy behaved like that in the sauna with Hester/Kiki. There is an acknowledgement of her behavior being out of character. It's on purpose and by choice.
 
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