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He's made a solemn promise to himself there that he will not let any conflict get in between the DeLuca sisters (2 of the most important people to him), and Gracie becoming an antagonist basically would mean that he has failed to keep that promise. Not sure that would be something I'd be too keen on seeing.


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Now take your tin foil hat, lean back and enjoy a wild goose chase.

It is highly unlikely that Gracie and Luna will fight each other. From the opening we also seen the MC with the two sisters and Isabel.
This four I assume show us the next generation of Don or Serpents for the Delucas. Wilfred (Consigliere), Cordia (Donna) and Antonio (Capobastone) is not in the picture. Could simple be for artistic reasons, but for what then do we have our hats on? - Even Wilfred changed his.

What we also have seen is, that Antonio killed the traitor before he could say something.
Antonio is also a little older than the two sisters and, if I'm not wrong, have a different father than this two.

As Capobastone he is the direct successor to Cordia and would gain the most if she, for what reason ever, would retired.
Do he have an agenda on his own? I don't doubt it. Wilfred clearly has his on too. The important question is what does his agenda goes against the goals of the family?

I believe so. We had a lot of incidents already that shows that someone of high rank of the house collaborate with an enemy.
First the malfunction of the car breaks, then the beach prison event and at last the poisoning of the MC. Additionally the assassination attempt on the MC.
Two of them where on the main estate and all involved the core family in a way.

Does Wilfred, Cordia or Antonio doesn't know anything about them? Can it be that all of this fly under their radar? Or is someone directly involved and the others turn a blind eye on it?

My assumption is that Antonio is involved, possibly even in Luna and Gracie childhood events too. His distance to Isabel is also a part of it.
In reaction to this MC and his group will need to go "against" the family to discover this and in the end, Wilfred and Cordia needs to retired.

So now, you can either take your hat of or join me on this goose chase. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Now take your tin foil hat, lean back and enjoy a wild goose chase.

It is highly unlikely that Gracie and Luna will fight each other. From the opening we also seen the MC with the two sisters and Isabel.
This four I assume show us the next generation of Don or Serpents for the Delucas. Wilfred (Consigliere), Cordia (Donna) and Antonio (Capobastone) is not in the picture. Could simple be for artistic reasons, but for what then do we have our hats on? - Even Wilfred changed his.

What we also have seen is, that Antonio killed the traitor before he could say something.
Antonio is also a little older than the two sisters and, if I'm not wrong, have a different father than this two.

As Capobastone he is the direct successor to Cordia and would gain the most if she, for what reason ever, would retired.
Do he have an agenda on his own? I don't doubt it. Wilfred clearly has his on too. The important question is what does his agenda goes against the goals of the family?

I believe so. We had a lot of incidents already that shows that someone of high rank of the house collaborate with an enemy.
First the malfunction of the car breaks, then the beach prison event and at last the poisoning of the MC. Additionally the assassination attempt on the MC.
Two of them where on the main estate and all involved the core family in a way.

Does Wilfred, Cordia or Antonio doesn't know anything about them? Can it be that all of this fly under their radar? Or is someone directly involved and the others turn a blind eye on it?

My assumption is that Antonio is involved, possibly even in Luna and Gracie childhood events too. His distance to Isabel is also a part of it.
In reaction to this MC and his group will need to go "against" the family to discover this and in the end, Wilfred and Cordia needs to retired.

So now, you can either take your hat of or join me on this goose chase. :ROFLMAO:
I think with the whole traitor/inside job situation, many people are expecting either Wilfred or Antonio to be the turncoat of the Family. Each character there are reasons that people may point out are suspicious that they may possibly be the traitor.
Though I don't know why, but for some reason I have my suspicion on Gildart (Wilfred's "favorite pupil"), who is in Wilfred's Division.

He seems to know much moreso than other members of Wilfred's Division (much to Onorina's annoyance), and it is unknown why he seems so interested in MC (to the point of saying something along the lines of "How will you forge your path, MC?" after watching him deal with Quasi-Capo).
While it could be interpreted in many different ways, in a way it also kinda feels like a predator playing with the prey before it readies to strike.


Perhaps I'm just expecting something a bit different since much expectations are on Antonio and Wilfred to turn traitor by many.
 

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Now take your tin foil hat, lean back and enjoy a wild goose chase.

It is highly unlikely that Gracie and Luna will fight each other. From the opening we also seen the MC with the two sisters and Isabel.
This four I assume show us the next generation of Don or Serpents for the Delucas. Wilfred (Consigliere), Cordia (Donna) and Antonio (Capobastone) is not in the picture. Could simple be for artistic reasons, but for what then do we have our hats on? - Even Wilfred changed his.

What we also have seen is, that Antonio killed the traitor before he could say something.
Antonio is also a little older than the two sisters and, if I'm not wrong, have a different father than this two.

As Capobastone he is the direct successor to Cordia and would gain the most if she, for what reason ever, would retired.
Do he have an agenda on his own? I don't doubt it. Wilfred clearly has his on too. The important question is what does his agenda goes against the goals of the family?

I believe so. We had a lot of incidents already that shows that someone of high rank of the house collaborate with an enemy.
First the malfunction of the car breaks, then the beach prison event and at last the poisoning of the MC. Additionally the assassination attempt on the MC.
Two of them where on the main estate and all involved the core family in a way.

Does Wilfred, Cordia or Antonio doesn't know anything about them? Can it be that all of this fly under their radar? Or is someone directly involved and the others turn a blind eye on it?

My assumption is that Antonio is involved, possibly even in Luna and Gracie childhood events too. His distance to Isabel is also a part of it.
In reaction to this MC and his group will need to go "against" the family to discover this and in the end, Wilfred and Cordia needs to retired.

So now, you can either take your hat of or join me on this goose chase. :ROFLMAO:
Well if you think about it three happened at the house. Cut brakes in the garage, poison in kitchen, and assassination in his room. How did she know what room he was in? Your thoughts are pretty good I think. But what about the ass when he first gets there? Just my thoughts and questions.
 
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Does anyone know where we are in the story ? if I interpret the version number correctly then we are only 7.2% in! with 92.8% still to come
Is that a fair assessment?
 
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Does anyone know where we are in the story ? if I interpret the version number correctly then we are only 7.2% in! with 92.8% still to come
Is that a fair assessment?
Nope.
They mean nothing for a lot of the games on this site.

For instance, a game may be at one point be v0.33 then jump instantly to v0.67 in the next update.
The version numbers for a lot of games here are simply just numbers, and shouldn't be interpreted literally (though there are some exceptions, this game isn't one of them).

For this game, before the dev (HopesGaming), back when v0.07 was released, has said that the game at that stage is like 30% done (before full completion).

Upcoming update will finish season 1 of the game, so I'd assume with that the game would be roughly 33~34% or so done.
 
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Nope.
They mean nothing for a lot of the games on this site.

For instance, a game may be at one point be v0.33 then jump instantly to v0.67 in the next update.
The version numbers for a lot of games here are simply just numbers, and shouldn't be interpreted literally (though there are some exceptions, this game isn't one of them).

For this game, before the dev (HopesGaming), back when v0.07 was released, has said that the game at that stage is like 30% done (before full completion).

Upcoming update will finish season 1 of the game, so I'd assume with that the game would be roughly 33~34% or so done.
Thanks for the reply,
I'm behind in the updates, but I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far and the thought that this might turn grow into some massive series was giving me all sorts of tingly feelings :D
I hope you're wrong :p, and this story continues year after year, but still another ~60% to go still isn't bad.

Games can make big jumps in either content or reassessing the goal posts, so skipping from 0.33 to 0.67 isn't necessarily a stumper in my book.
 

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He said a lot of things that he couldn't keep :(
He only did that once with the statement about "trying to get it out in December 2021", which he admitted he overestimated himself in that case.

Thanks for the reply,
I'm behind in the updates, but I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far and the thought that this might turn grow into some massive series was giving me all sorts of tingly feelings :D
I hope you're wrong :p, and this story continues year after year, but still another ~60% to go still isn't bad.

Games can make big jumps in either content or reassessing the goal posts, so skipping from 0.33 to 0.67 isn't necessarily a stumper in my book.
This was by Hopes back in late Feburary 2021 (just couple of weeks before v0.07 came out):

Hmm. Would say game is around 30% done.
We are done with many of the introductory parts. Not just the characters, but the world and family as well.
Now we are just adding arcs and the 'meat' of it all.

As I said before, version numbers are... just numbers.

To cite another example, in the game "Sorcerer", updates used v0.01, v0.02, v0.03...........v0.35, v0.36 v0.37, v1.00,
with v0.01 = Day 1, v0.02 = Day 2 and so on (and v1.00 is the final day, Day 38).

So version numbers are meaningless in a lot of cases, and one shouldn't put so much stock to them, or otherwise they will be misled often.
 
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Now take your tin foil hat, lean back and enjoy a wild goose chase.

It is highly unlikely that Gracie and Luna will fight each other. From the opening we also seen the MC with the two sisters and Isabel.
This four I assume show us the next generation of Don or Serpents for the Delucas. Wilfred (Consigliere), Cordia (Donna) and Antonio (Capobastone) is not in the picture. Could simple be for artistic reasons, but for what then do we have our hats on? - Even Wilfred changed his.

What we also have seen is, that Antonio killed the traitor before he could say something.
Antonio is also a little older than the two sisters and, if I'm not wrong, have a different father than this two.

As Capobastone he is the direct successor to Cordia and would gain the most if she, for what reason ever, would retired.
Do he have an agenda on his own? I don't doubt it. Wilfred clearly has his on too. The important question is what does his agenda goes against the goals of the family?

I believe so. We had a lot of incidents already that shows that someone of high rank of the house collaborate with an enemy.
First the malfunction of the car breaks, then the beach prison event and at last the poisoning of the MC. Additionally the assassination attempt on the MC.
Two of them where on the main estate and all involved the core family in a way.

Does Wilfred, Cordia or Antonio doesn't know anything about them? Can it be that all of this fly under their radar? Or is someone directly involved and the others turn a blind eye on it?

My assumption is that Antonio is involved, possibly even in Luna and Gracie childhood events too. His distance to Isabel is also a part of it.
In reaction to this MC and his group will need to go "against" the family to discover this and in the end, Wilfred and Cordia needs to retired.

So now, you can either take your hat of or join me on this goose chase. :ROFLMAO:
I have already thought about this theory myself. Yes it is likely that It was Antonio. Connected to break malfunction poisoning and beach prison? Could be. Luna and gracies childhood events? Maybe. Gracie's childhood event might be tied to Wilfred though. Wilfred could tell that Gracie took after her mother. So he new he needed to "nudge" her into the "right" direction. Think about it. We know he was training her even though Cordia told him not to. We know he is " a gentleman on the outside and a brute on the inside." Meaning he pretends to be a gentleman, but is a true savage. He might be a heartless sociopathic psycho. Basically an amped up fusion of Luna and Gracie in male form. He may have even had a hand in Luna's abduction. We really do not know. There has always been two people I have been most worried about, Antonio and Wilfred. Antonio is a true psycho. Wilfred, you never know what he is thinking. He acts like a gentleman, but at times you can see he is a cunning savage. Then there is the goofy side to him. Which makes me wanna throw an extra. What the hell do we even know about Joey? A forgettable goof who is more talented than what he seems and a mystery. Is he the village idiot or is there something more sinister? .....Maybe Wilfred's son.
 
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I think with the whole traitor/inside job situation, many people are expecting either Wilfred or Antonio to be the turncoat of the Family. Each character there are reasons that people may point out are suspicious that they may possibly be the traitor.
Though I don't know why, but for some reason I have my suspicion on Gildart (Wilfred's "favorite pupil"), who is in Wilfred's Division.

He seems to know much moreso than other members of Wilfred's Division (much to Onorina's annoyance), and it is unknown why he seems so interested in MC (to the point of saying something along the lines of "How will you forge your path, MC?" after watching him deal with Quasi-Capo).
While it could be interpreted in many different ways, in a way it also kinda feels like a predator playing with the prey before it readies to strike.


Perhaps I'm just expecting something a bit different since much expectations are on Antonio and Wilfred to turn traitor by many.
Wilfred would not "betray the family"...At least in his mind he wouldn't. His actions can be interpreted different to others than he would. He is a cunning sociopathic fake gentleman savage. Antonio similarly would not "betray the family." He would feel like others are betraying the family cause they do not truly follow his lead. Especially if he was the Don.
 
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Mine probably is a bad/poor theory.
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I really appreciate anyone that took time to read my bad theory. I know, probable im wrong, so any comment ill gladly reading you all. And sorry my bad english hahaha.
I dont want to spoil anyone so ill put hide in spoiler.
 
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Season 1 will not have all the way.
Season 2 will have all way with most of em. That is what is planned as of now.
MC needs to man the fuck up. :cool: All this killing and he is still a boy. BTW I read your post a few weeks back and you must have still been sick when you typed it, you gave me COVID o_O:sick: , all over it now and feeling better.
All jokes aside Thanks HopesGaming and looking forward to the update.
 

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MC needs to man the fuck up. :cool: All this killing and he is still a boy. BTW I read your post a few weeks back and you must have still been sick when you typed it, you gave me COVID o_O:sick: , all over it now and feeling better.
All jokes aside Thanks HopesGaming and looking forward to the update.
Well, the best characters are the ones that you see grow with time, you see them face every problem and learn and then you can develope more empathy to them. For example when Luna tells you her story it, at that point you are really commited to help her or know more about her, because it feels as that trust was build with time and effort.
But yeah, we all want the MC to grow and do more everytime, but if thats made too quickly then it will not be the same. I loved the scenes with every character because this game was not "ch1 you have everyone and they love you".
 

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Well, I wouldn't outright dismiss your theory (unless Hopes says "Nope, that won't happen" [but even if it happens that way, it's pretty much deep in spoiler territory, and I'd assume he'll keep it close to his chest]), but going that route with Gracie presents two issues;

1) Making her an antagonist would most likely put a stop to her freeroam/lewd events section, so unless Hopes is preparing to do that for Gracie's character (or all girls freeroam/lewd for that matter) it likely wouldn't be a good idea.

as well as;

2) Making Gracie an antagonist I don't think would be met with a positive reaction from Gracie fans.
I mean, I'd only consider Gracie to be my third favorite girl (my favorites go in order of Luna, then Cordia, then Gracie/Isabel), but over the years I've seen quite a considerable number of Gracie fans out there.
They may not be as big as Luna's or as loud as Cordia's fandom, but they certainly exist when they wish to voice their love for her character.
Hence such action might have more of an adverse effect on the game than it being a boon (especially if Gracie is the player's favorite girl).

Portend despite the definition of the word, I think it might be one of those rare instances where the event title may be a red herring.
Plus, there's the MC's inner monologue at the end of that event:

"As much fun it is to think about (Luna vs Gracie), for it to happen for real is another thing. I would never let that happen. I'll protect both of them."

He's made a solemn promise to himself there that he will not let any conflict get in between the DeLuca sisters (2 of the most important people to him), and Gracie becoming an antagonist basically would mean that he has failed to keep that promise. Not sure that would be something I'd be too keen on seeing.

Not invalid points but i think both are manageable. There's plenty of ways to put a character in a villainous role yet still have them interacting in non-violent ways with other characters. Soap Operas have done that for decades. Also pretty much every CW Show. Granted, CW is trash TV but...this ain't exactly highbrow entertainment. lol

I can even see a few scenarios in my head already for how it could all play out, devolve into open civil war, and still end with everyone happily reconciled and forgiving each other. If we're going with multi-season long story arcs.Especially considering how many years it takes to get just part way through one season. That's plenty of time to do some storycrafting.
 
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