Paco Loco

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Just for clarification regarding the food poisoning event with the MC.

- Everyone was pretty surprised when Cordia invited the MC to sit with them since they didn't expect him to be invited with the table. So what's with the poison? was the original target really the MC? or was it accidental and the target was someone else? Since everyone was pretty surprised that He was invited, wouldn't it cross out the main family from being the suspect since they have no knowledge beforehand of Cordia wanting to invite the MC? or did the perpetrator predicted Cordia's action?

or is there a significant amount of time from the invitation to the dinner table where those who would target the MC could be notified by a traitor and immediately prepare the poison to be specifically given to the MC?
Yes, that's true. But, I still think all that drama around the poisoning does not change a simple fact: if anyone of the high ranks of the family was decided to kill the MC, especially Cordia, he would be dead so quickly as a finger snapping. That said, it is possible a presence of another traitor inside the lower ranks (like Trino) could explain the poisoning on dinner. Even if one of the core family was involved (Cordia, Wilfred, Antonio, Luna, Isabel and Gracie), just one of them could fit on the profile - Wilfred.

- Cordia doesn't need to secretly poison a guy who's was invited by herself on her own dinner table. More than that, she would not like the stains of blood and a dead body on her carpet (like Trino) :ROFLMAO:;
- Antonio is described all the time as a hothead capobastone, not a sneaky poisoner :mad:;
- Luna is a force of nature, a death by poison is too boring for her :cautious:;
- Isabel is not involved in any family's business and nothing on story indicates that she has any abilities on combat, or killing - it will be a surprise for me if she has any involvement on plotting against MC or other members of Delucas :unsure:;
- Even Gracie was being trained by Wilfred on the family's business, but on the dinner, she doesn't knows almost nothing about the MC. She knows that he is a hostage, but for what purpose she would kill him? :unsure:
- Wilfred, who was not on the scene (the dinner), is the only could fits on the criteria of a mastermind that could did it - not by himself, but in cooperation with a third party - and that gives another tons of questions without answers, yet. :whistle:
 

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Some quick, nosy, interruptions from my part -

- I have not lost motivation for the game. My mind is still filled with more ideas than there is time for, and there are still plans to jump full time on this.

- I wouldn't say the game has had a 'rework'. It was more an add-on of new gameplay mechanics, with some few redone here and there. Otherwise, the main game hasn't been touched. There was always plans to expand the gameplay part the of the game.

- I've always said that this is a hobby project and the time is due to that. I've made that clear on the front page of my patreon and been very open on that here too.
Of course, that is not optimal for people that like the game and want it out quicker, but until I jump into this full force, it is what it is at the moment.

However, what I have to admit fault to is; keeping my mouth shut about when I feel like I can release the game. I always get optimistic about how work has been done, and I feel like I got a timeframe. But due to a combination of underestimating the work, real life stuff, work hours, and deciding to change/add content - it takes way longer.
Should just shut my mouth until I've given it to the beta testers!
Worst part is that I always say this, but I keep giving personal estimation anyway. Maybe it is a sickness in my brain. But no more! My mouth is shut!

Btw, I feel like the game should be done before this month is over. That is where I will give it to the beta testers that is.
Would have wanted the update to come sooner, but it is what it is.
Still very much looking forward to the update.

Regarding you mentioning ETAs, well I guess this could be something you can look back and chuckle at a lot when your releases transition to quicker yet shorter releases.

And speaking of quicker yet, shorter update releases, any goal as to how often the releases would be after v0.08?
Some devs release their game updates like clockwork (either 1 update every month or even 1 update every 3 weeks; e.g. games like Rebirth, Ataegina, A Father's Sin), which would be awesome if that is the case, but I also wouldn't mind 1 update every 2 months (quicker than the general 3 months, but longer than 1 month, allowing for more content. That sounds like a nice compromise in between).
 
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Some quick, nosy, interruptions from my part -

- I have not lost motivation for the game. My mind is still filled with more ideas than there is time for, and there are still plans to jump full time on this.

- I wouldn't say the game has had a 'rework'. It was more an add-on of new gameplay mechanics, with some few redone here and there. Otherwise, the main game hasn't been touched. There was always plans to expand the gameplay part the of the game.

- I've always said that this is a hobby project and the time is due to that. I've made that clear on the front page of my patreon and been very open on that here too.
Of course, that is not optimal for people that like the game and want it out quicker, but until I jump into this full force, it is what it is at the moment.

However, what I have to admit fault to is; keeping my mouth shut about when I feel like I can release the game. I always get optimistic about how work has been done, and I feel like I got a timeframe. But due to a combination of underestimating the work, real life stuff, work hours, and deciding to change/add content - it takes way longer.
Should just shut my mouth until I've given it to the beta testers!
Worst part is that I always say this, but I keep giving personal estimation anyway. Maybe it is a sickness in my brain. But no more! My mouth is shut!

Btw, I feel like the game should be done before this month is over. That is where I will give it to the beta testers that is.
What? Nothing about Connie? Really? The mods should really marks this aband..........:p:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Some quick, nosy, interruptions from my part -

- I have not lost motivation for the game. My mind is still filled with more ideas than there is time for, and there are still plans to jump full time on this.

- I wouldn't say the game has had a 'rework'. It was more an add-on of new gameplay mechanics, with some few redone here and there. Otherwise, the main game hasn't been touched. There was always plans to expand the gameplay part the of the game.

- I've always said that this is a hobby project and the time is due to that. I've made that clear on the front page of my patreon and been very open on that here too.
Of course, that is not optimal for people that like the game and want it out quicker, but until I jump into this full force, it is what it is at the moment.

However, what I have to admit fault to is; keeping my mouth shut about when I feel like I can release the game. I always get optimistic about how work has been done, and I feel like I got a timeframe. But due to a combination of underestimating the work, real life stuff, work hours, and deciding to change/add content - it takes way longer.
Should just shut my mouth until I've given it to the beta testers!
Worst part is that I always say this, but I keep giving personal estimation anyway. Maybe it is a sickness in my brain. But no more! My mouth is shut!

Btw, I feel like the game should be done before this month is over. That is where I will give it to the beta testers that is.
As someone who's been supporting you on Patreon for over a year now, my two cents are that real life always has priority, and the fact you've been communicating with the people on a pirate site tells me that this is for passion, which has led to some of the best storytelling I've ever seen in a game. Does it suck we didn't get the release earlier? Sure, but again, real life comes first, so I get it.
 
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you wanted to say
capo di tutti i capi - I have been training as you commanded ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

right? :cool:
technically I have to call him Master because he's the one training me to fight and protect Luna

you want to know how
HopesGaming trains me to be fast enough to dodge gunfire he shoots at me

that's why he created the redhead

he wanted me to bring out my anger

he wanted to use my rage to make me strong

Hopes knows that I care only for Luna and no one else

which is fine with him because he's the leader of the Luna fanbase after all
 

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Would have wanted the update to come sooner, but it is what it is.
Still very much looking forward to the update.

Regarding you mentioning ETAs, well I guess this could be something you can look back and chuckle at a lot when your releases transition to quicker yet shorter releases.

And speaking of quicker yet, shorter update releases, any goal as to how often the releases would be after v0.08?
Some devs release their game updates like clockwork (either 1 update every month or even 1 update every 3 weeks; e.g. games like Rebirth, Ataegina, A Father's Sin), which would be awesome if that is the case, but I also wouldn't mind 1 update every 2 months (quicker than the general 3 months, but longer than 1 month, allowing for more content. That sounds like a nice compromise in between).
Hmm, probably 2 months and 3 months for the story heavy ones.
Nothing for certain as of yet.
 

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Are you trying to lump us in with you camera boys? Huh? Huh? You big creep! That audacity!

We planted just audio recorders, unlike you. MC probably is gonna be punished equally for both choices when they find out. But what we did was something that would make Cordia angry and then kick us in the sack. What YOU did was something that deserves at least three angry kicks in the sack and a crushed nut.
No, I only placed audio, because it was the lesser of the two options open to me.
I felt that, of the two choices, it was the one that was the least bad.

But the point I am making, is that the people you spied on will not know that it was the "least" bad option.
As far as they are concerned, your choice was to spy on them, or not.
How you went about doing it is irrelevant, to that.
They just know that you chose the bad option. So what if there was a worse option? It doesn't make the bad one any better.
It is still the same end result, because you still betrayed their trust & spied on them.
From our point of view it matters, morally.
From their point of view it does not matter, because it does not exist.
It's Hobson's Choice.

I am not downplaying the greater severity of video, I'm simply saying do not downplay the transgression of audio.
If the punishment for spying on them is death, then it does not matter how you spied, you're still going to die.
Yes, video is worse.
Audio is still a death sentence.
But, hey! At least we get to die with honour (or regret), knowing we didn't invade her privacy & watch Gracie masturbating.
We just listened. Yeah, we've got the (im)moral high ground.... :unsure::ROFLMAO:

Think of it like this:
Person A & Person B both do things which make you hate them.
Person A did something worse which makes you hate them more.
Does this make you hate Person B any less for what they did?
They're still a cunt & you still hate them, just the same.
If you remove Person A from that completely, then you're left with what Cordia would face if she discovered you'd placed audio.
 
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While (as I stated), delays beying inevitable as it is a part time thing, it has ALWAYS been a part time thing. It was also a part time thing while the updates took only 5 months. Covid also doesn't make you unable to work for 6+ months (which is how much longer this update has taken compared to every other not counting the system rework).
This dev post I'm quoting under here, was the devpost of November 5th, where it's stated that, while a release that month was unlikely, they would be extremely disappointed with themselves if the update wasn't out before the new year.
If being extremely disappointed with yourself if the update wasn't out before the new year, how must they feel at this point now the update still isn't out 3 months into the new year.

This only leads me to the conclusion that Hopes has lost motivation to work on the game. Which would be fine, such is life. It would be disappointing if this game didn't end up finished, but at the speed it's going right now, I doubt that will ever be the case. I hope to be proven wrong in the updates after this one.
That is your assumption. I know i have no clue what is going on in his real life. Stuff happens. He also is trying to figure out what form he will have this game on steam when he has finished season 1. Also you do know getting covid stops you from doing what your normally which means your habits. We all form habits that keep us on track. When someone's habit is broken it makes getting that habit back a little hard. Adding to the fact we don't know what is going on in his real life nor his ACTUAL job. Judging him for not getting an update out really late is not actually called for. Especially when we do not pay. To say he has lost his motivation for this game that is the assumption you come up with. Even though you do not know all the facts. I don't blame you. People tend to think the facts they know are more than enough to hit the nail on the head even though there is no reason to think so. Also he more than likely wants to make sure we get a good amount of content and polished renders before he puts the update out. If it were around the end of April or even the middle of April then yeah i would start thinking yeah this aint a good sign. I always felt like worst case scenario was we getting around the end of march. We just started the end part of march. Also Its been a bit since we lost heard from Hopes. So i figured we either we will hear from him in a few days or the update. Im still hopeful. If we don't have an update or an update on the update by around the beginning of april then yeah some worry will be there, but still would be mostly hopeful.

Edit: After I posted this I see hopes already typed about whether he lost motivation. I figured with someone questioning his motivation he would show up. LOL
 
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There's always outliers. People also say "smoking kills" as a fact, but my grandma smoked for 80 something years and still made it to 97. It's more of a generalisation that, well over 98% of people are not out of work for 6+ months. And while (very rarely) possible, odds are that they are not.
That is cause health of the person is what takes precedents. We were told that even "healthy" people got hit badly with covid. That is not science unless it was a genetic attack. Many people look healthy, but do not exercise nor eat right. We are told this system or that system works best for our health. They are all shams cause sceince shows we need to eat a certain amount while getting the right nutrients and exercising while not overdoing it. We are told lies mingled with truth to scare us. You realize how crazy ou world is when you know the truth.
 
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Just for clarification regarding the food poisoning event with the MC.

- Everyone was pretty surprised when Cordia invited the MC to sit with them since they didn't expect him to be invited with the table. So what's with the poison? was the original target really the MC? or was it accidental and the target was someone else? Since everyone was pretty surprised that He was invited, wouldn't it cross out the main family from being the suspect since they have no knowledge beforehand of Cordia wanting to invite the MC? or did the perpetrator predicted Cordia's action?

or is there a significant amount of time from the invitation to the dinner table where those who would target the MC could be notified by a traitor and immediately prepare the poison to be specifically given to the MC?
That is why its likely that that one was about testing him. Not saying Cordia new, but pretty sure she suspects "like I do" It was Wildred with his "behind her back" tests he does. Hell the malfunctioning breaks in the car ride their screams the same. But of course right now just speculations till confirmed or debunked by Hopes through the updates in the game.
 
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If the punishment for spying on them is death, then it does not matter how you spied, you're still going to die.
Yes, video is worse.
Audio is still a death sentence.
And if the punishment for spying on them is not death, but the punishment for peeking on the girls is, then what? You can assert that 'the punishment for spying is death either way', that does not make it so.
 
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