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I hope there will be some way to resolve the Netori route with Isabel and still have lewds and continue the story and character relationship development. I really HATE the idea of cuckolding Antonio, since he's been nothing but kind, friendly and welcoming to the MC.
 

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I am not here to defend seniorboop. In fact, under regular conditions I would prefer to troll him.. cause, you know, it is fun!
You know what, let's do it a little, why not? What is funny about these guys complaining is that they clearly do so out of frustration that something they like is not going out. Otherwise, why would they care to keep coming? For example, I am one of the biggest critiques in games like WVM as the game is total pure boring crap in which everyone loves MC's dick as a gift from god. But I do not go to that tread to stir the waters.. as I really couldn't not care less about that game.

So.. my opinion is that seniorboop does not dislike the game at all, on the other hand he really likes it. The opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference.

Now on the serious matter at hand

Deluca development process has been terrible. This is a fact, not an opinion at this point. (well my fact.. which is after all an opinion.. but you know how these things are.. it is an statistical thing at this point).

I am not going to claim I understand anything. I barely know how to code at all on very user friendly stuff. And i have as non music artistic skills as a dead dinosaur. But that does not mean one cannot make educated guesses.

The previous update had the "new engine" reason. Now, a year later, no release. There will always be a thousands reasons... And believe me I understand that. The problem, more than anything, is in the lack of consistency and continuously pushing supposed deadlines back and forth. And please, let's not start the "Hopes never sets up deadlines" because what he sets up are expectations.

So I keep checking on it because I love the story and I love the game. But my expectations on the development of this game are extremely low.


To others reading this as a critique: first, yes it is a critique on the development process. But notice that I tried to be as respectful and unentitled as possible. Saying a critique does not mean being rude.
 
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Now on the serious matter at hand

Deluca development process has been terrible. This is a fact, not an opinion at this point. (well my fact.. which is after all an opinion.. but you know how these things are.. it is an statistical thing at this point).

I am not going to claim I understand anything. I barely know how to code at all on very user friendly stuff. And i have as non music artistic skills as a dead dinosaur. But that does not mean one cannot make educated guesses.

The previous update had the "new engine" reason. Now, a year later, no release. There will always be a thousands reasons... And believe me I understand that. The problem, more than anything, is in the lack of consistency and continuously pushing supposed deadlines back and forth. And please, let's not start the "Hopes never sets up deadlines" because what he sets up are expectations.

So I keep checking on it because I love the story and I love the game. But my expectations on the development of this game are extremely low.


To others reading this as a critique: first, yes it is a critique on the development process. But notice that I tried to be as respectful and unentitled as possible. Saying a critique does not mean being rude.
What you said about the game's development cycle itself is fair.

And no one should point fingers at you or accuse you (if anyone decides to), because you were Hopes' supporter once, and iirc (from what you said, you supported him up to total of $60, a cost of supporting a full AAA game before rotating support to another dev).
It's basically been a year since v0.07 was released, and disappointment that it's taking so long to get there is natural (I mean let's all be brutally honest here, we all feel that way to certain extent).
Whether one is an actual supporter or not, we all wish for quicker DeLuca updates, and get into this world as soon as possible because we love this game!

I just truly hope that when v0.08 comes it's a really enjoyable experience, & we no longer have to go through prolonged droughts of releases like we've been experiencing for the past 2 years.

And the best way for that to happen is for the shorter yet quicker release cycles to be implemented, which Hopes said is the plan after v0.08.

Here's hoping we get that (fingers crossed).
 

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And please, let's not start the "Hopes never sets up deadlines" because what he sets up are expectations.
On the contrary, despite Hopes regularly saying he's not going to give any estimates, he keeps doing it & raising expectations. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...
So I keep checking on it because I love the story and I love the game. But my expectations on the development of this game are extremely low.
That's great, everyone's expectations of the development of this game should be low. Hopes has said throughout that he's a part-time hobbiest, so there should be no expectation of timely releases, consistency or hitting the etas he doesn't know how to calculate. Yes that will limit his number of subscribers, but presumably Hopes is comfortable with that reality. And the rest of us just have to wait patiently for something to get released whenever. The only way it is likely to improve is if Hopes goes full-time, of which there's no guarantee.

It's still pretty lame for certain users to keep coming back to this thread to complain about this again & again though. They already know what the development chaos of this game is like, so continually harping on about it seems pointless to me. Some people just like to bitch about stuff I guess, even if it doesn't improve the delivery time at all & just adds more useless iterations of this topic.
 

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On the contrary, despite Hopes regularly saying he's not going to give any estimates, he keeps doing it & raising expectations. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...

That's great, everyone's expectations of the development of this game should be low. Hopes has said throughout that he's a part-time hobbiest, so there should be no expectation of timely releases, consistency or hitting the etas he doesn't know how to calculate. Yes that will limit his number of subscribers, but presumably Hopes is comfortable with that reality. And the rest of us just have to wait patiently for something to get released whenever. The only way it is likely to improve is if Hopes goes full-time, of which there's no guarantee.

It's still pretty lame for certain users to keep coming back to this thread to complain about this again & again though. They already know what the development chaos of this game is like, so continually harping on about it seems pointless to me. Some people just like to bitch about stuff I guess, even if it doesn't improve the delivery time at all & just adds more useless iterations of this topic.
lame or not, they are also enabled, seeing as they get responses from other users, be it a regular or someone who just found the game and loved it.
But that's not going to change, people will still come to complain, and other users will still enable them by either mocking them or giving them a reply.
 
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lame or not, they are also enabled, seeing as they get responses from other users, be it a regular or someone who just found the game and loved.
But that's not going to change, people will still come to complain, and other users will still enable them by either mocking them or giving them a reply.
A lot has to do with the how.

Not the same to come and complain bout something like an entitled little bitch than to express disappointment on some things in a respectful way.

Alter all, someone coming to criticize something is a sign they care. Some care only because they don't get their own way, but correlationwise speaking, these are the ones that bitch the most.
 

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A lot has to do with the how.

Not the same to come and complain bout something like an entitle little bitch than to express disappointment on some things in a respectful way.

Alter all, someone coming to criticize something is a sign they care. Some care only because they don't grt their own way, but correlationwise speaking, thise are the ones that bitch the most.
yea , I agree
but at the same time , they come back because someone interacted with them.
and that's what trolls do right?that's what they need to keep coming back and say stupid shit
they need some form of acknowledgement , now if nobody (I know it's not going to happen) interacted with them, they would possibly come back 1 more time ..let's say 2 more times and then move on, since nobody is bothering to reply to their obvious troll comments.
On the other hand I also get the reaction from people that love the game, why should someone else trash either the game or the dev or whatever else that I love and supported for a lot of time.
but like I said, this will never stop, trolls will come and make some kind of stupid comment, people will enable them, they will come back and so on.
a never ending cycle.

onto the game though, I wonder if the girls will find out that MC slept with Eiza, and if they find out .. how will they react.
in my playthrough I'm being a manwhore and I'm pursuing all girls.. I know it will come back to bite me in the ass though :(
Also I'm surprised my memory is that bad that I remember the scene with Isabell being one of full blown sex and not only a bj (the scene where her husband is banging on the door, forgot his name though)
 

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yea , I agree
but at the same time , they come back because someone interacted with them.
and that's what trolls do right?that's what they need to keep coming back and say stupid shit
they need some form of acknowledgement , now if nobody (I know it's not going to happen) interacted with them, they would possibly come back 1 more time ..let's say 2 more times and then move on, since nobody is bothering to reply to their obvious troll comments.
On the other hand I also get the reaction from people that love the game, why should someone else trash either the game or the dev or whatever else that I love and supported for a lot of time.
but like I said, this will never stop, trolls will come and make some kind of stupid comment, people will enable them, they will come back and so on.
a never ending cycle.

onto the game though, I wonder if the girls will find out that MC slept with Eiza, and if they find out .. how will they react.
in my playthrough I'm being a manwhore and I'm pursuing all girls.. I know it will come back to bite me in the ass though :(
Also I'm surprised my memory is that bad that I remember the scene with Isabell being one of full blown sex and not only a bj (the scene where her husband is banging on the door, forgot his name though)
You're an optimist. I would bet that some of would go on an rampage until they will be stop

Regarding the game itself, I'm too a man whore, like in about any other game too and I will se how that goes, when the shit hits the fan, if. Just use enough saves.;)
 

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So.. my opinion is that @seniorboop does not dislike the game at all, on the other hand he really likes it. The opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference.
I am not waiting up for this update chief lol.

I casually peruse the threads of most VNs in the top 2-3 pages but I only play 2-3.

Just wanted to clear that up. Back to the sidelines!
 

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You're an optimist. I would bet that some of would go on an rampage until they will be stop

Regarding the game itself, I'm too a man whore, like in about any other game too and I will se how that goes, when the shit hits the fan, if. Just use enough saves.;)
but that rampage would also end at one point, even if they go on about it for days , it will still stop.

as for the game, I'm a moron... I don't really keep too many saves xD, I usually go with 2-3 saves and they are mostly one after another :p so they actually don't really help me.

when cause I know it's a matter of when , when the shit hits the fan guess I'll have to start all over :D
 

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I am not waiting up for this update chief lol.

I casually peruse the threads of most VNs in the top 2-3 pages but I only play 2-3.

Just wanted to clear that up. Back to the sidelines!
Well, I waste my time doing even more pointless things too, so who am I to criticize that?

Like last time i was complaining to this cloud that decide to move away and stop hiding the sun.. what a bitch!
 

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onto the game though, I wonder if the girls will find out that MC slept with Eiza, and if they find out .. how will they react.
in my playthrough I'm being a manwhore and I'm pursuing all girls.. I know it will come back to bite me in the ass though :(
Also I'm surprised my memory is that bad that I remember the scene with Isabell being one of full blown sex and not only a bj (the scene where her husband is banging on the door, forgot his name though)
Don't know about Eiza, but regarding Isabel, considering one of her previews is her looking through the slit of a door in secret with a little bit of surprised look on her face I'd say it could be very possible that Isabel catches us doing some lewd things with either Luna or Gracie and decided to watch (showing her voyeur side haha).

This pic here:

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Don't know about Eiza, but regarding Isabel, considering one of her previews is her looking through the slit of a door in secret with a little bit of surprised look on her face I'd say it could be very possible that Isabel catches us doing some lewd things with either Luna or Gracie and decided to watch (showing her voyeur side haha).

This pic here:

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well she might be fine with our ... "activities" though not sure to be honest since she was hurt by her current husband, but probably will be fine... (this is me being an optimist here! :))) )
but what about Luna? ... shit ... she's the obvious one but Grace? her intelligence goes over the roof and we've seen her vengeful side .. just a peek but we've seen she holds a grudge..combine that with her hiigh IQ and the fact that MC .. kind betrays her .. by sleeping with every other woman he can ( in my playthrough at least) .. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to that scene :D
 
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Don't know about Eiza, but regarding Isabel, considering one of her previews is her looking through the slit of a door in secret with a little bit of surprised look on her face I'd say it could be very possible that Isabel catches us doing some lewd things with either Luna or Gracie and decided to watch (showing her voyeur side haha).

This pic here:

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Or she see where Wilfred hide his wine.:ROFLMAO:

Like last time i was complaining to this cloud that decide to move away and stop hiding the sun.. what a bitch!
You are an evil mastermind, even the clouds and sun fears you and goes into hiding.:eek:
 

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well she might be fine with our ... "activities" though not sure to be honest since she was hurt by her current husband, but probably will be fine... (this is me being an optimist here! :))) )
but what about Luna? ... shit ... she's the obvious one but Grace? her intelligence goes over the roof and we've seen her vengeful side .. just a peek but we've seen she holds a grudge..combine that with her hiigh IQ and the fact that MC .. kind betrays her .. by sleeping with every other woman he can ( in my playthrough at least) .. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to that scene :D
Well, I know my own fate, because my MC fucked around with all of them (yes I'm doomed, but I accept my fate :ROFLMAO: ).

It's actually gonna be interesting regarding Gracie's reaction to MC's being with other girls.
I mean, it's not like MC kept it a secret that he like "Both" sisters (beach prison event), but actually seeing MC with Luna or MC with Isabel? That's gonna be one hell of a convo afterwards.
 

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I wonder if the girls will find out that MC slept with Eiza, and if they find out .. how will they react.
in my playthrough I'm being a manwhore and I'm pursuing all girls.
I get your point, but there is one fact clearly obvious on that matter. At the last scene of the 0.7.2, your MC is NOT on a forced single route. I mean, your MC is still 'single', since he is not seriously 'engaged' with any of the major LIs. Even if your MC was a 'manwhore' (my MC was :LOL:), I do not know if you are already doomed by your previous actions. If your MC is, my MC is certainly too! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Well, I know my own fate, because my MC fucked around with all of them (yes I'm doomed, but I accept my fate :ROFLMAO: ).

It's actually gonna be interesting regarding Gracie's reaction to MC's being with other girls.
I mean, it's not like MC kept it a secret that he like "Both" sisters (beach prison event), but actually seeing MC with Luna or MC with Isabel? That's gonna be one hell of a convo afterwards.
yea , there was no secret but I think there is a difference between saying it/showiing it and doing it
I dread the scene where Grace will find out xD

I get your point, but there is one fact clearly obvious on that matter. At the last scene of the 0.7.2, your MC is NOT on a forced single route. I mean, your MC is still 'single', since he is not seriously 'engaged' with any of the major LIs. Even if your MC was a 'manwhore' (my MC was :LOL:), I do not know if you are already domned by your previous actions. If your MC is, my MC is certainly too! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
we're fucked.. that's what we are xD
Ohh I hope they are not fine...

I want catfights and safety concerns for MC. That is probably why Gracie is my fav.
noes.. I don't want that ..because a cat fight between the 2 of them .. would be dangerous...

Also... I want to see more of the nun... forgot her name, the one that "helps" MC before the big mission.
 
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