Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[ArtMeat]

Am I nuts, or would a Chibi of Our Donna be out of line? If Cordia isn't out of line, could we get a Chibi of Wilfred. I'd pay to see that.

 

[JJJ84]

Am I nuts, or would a Chibi of Our Donna be out of line? If Cordia isn't out of line, could we get a Chibi of Wilfred. I'd pay to see that.

We already have Chibi of Luna, Gracie, Isabel already, so why would Chibi of Cordia be out of line?

If it was up to me, I'd love to see Chibi of all characters in the game.

Also, to clarify, we will be getting Chibi of Cordia in the future (my guess? When her content gets unlocked in season 2 I think).
Not sure about the others though.
Feels like 50/50 according to Hopes:

The chibis has been a hit or miss so far. Some like em and some don't.
Cordia will get her own. About the others and perhaps in other poses? Maybe! Depends again on how many would like it.

 

[KiichiYakuza]

I think I need to come in again Honestly, the first time I ever supported on Patreon was when I saw update takes 2 months. I was like wow good game and 2 months? Let's do it. And then Hopes slashed that and made it to 3-4 months. It was still acceptable to me.

On the website it clearly says 3-4 months but may take a little longer sometimes. I could do with a little longer maybe 5-6 months. But honestly its been almost 14 months now. I think you should take this part down from your patreon or at least be even more honest about it and either mention that it will take much longer.

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nowhere in that answer dev says it will take him 3 months....
"what would be "
so...that post proves nothing ... except maybe someone has a problem comprehending but who knows..maybe thats me?

 

[HopesGaming]

I think I need to come in again Honestly, the first time I ever supported on Patreon was when I saw update takes 2 months. I was like wow good game and 2 months? Let's do it. And then Hopes slashed that and made it to 3-4 months. It was still acceptable to me.

On the website it clearly says 3-4 months but may take a little longer sometimes. I could do with a little longer maybe 5-6 months. But honestly its been almost 14 months now. I think you should take this part down from your patreon or at least be even more honest about it and either mention that it will take much longer.

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The first thing I write is that it is impossible to give an estimation on, as this is my hobby.
Under 3-4 months is what I wanted and is what I'm aiming for.

I also clearly write that I have had updates taken a lot more, which indicate that an update can take a lot longer than 3-4 months.
Do note that this was written back when the updates still had the normal update rates of 3-4 months if I remember right.
I tried to prepare people on the possibility of taking a long time even before it really happened.

The current long update times are not what is planned for the future. I've mentioned many times that I aim to change the style to shorter update cycle with shorter content in the next updates.

Lastly, the real reason for the prolonged update time is that I add one minute to the release date every time someone asks about the release date.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

Lastly, the real reason for the prolonged update time is that I add one minute to the release date every time someone asks about the release date.

Alright, as much as I appreciate you being here and always responding cordially I think we are going to need you to leave these forums.. Cause I am dreading the consequences...

 

[JJJ84]

I think I need to come in again Honestly, the first time I ever supported on Patreon was when I saw update takes 2 months. I was like wow good game and 2 months? Let's do it. And then Hopes slashed that and made it to 3-4 months. It was still acceptable to me.

On the website it clearly says 3-4 months but may take a little longer sometimes. I could do with a little longer maybe 5-6 months. But honestly its been almost 14 months now. I think you should take this part down from your patreon or at least be even more honest about it and either mention that it will take much longer.

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Why should he take it down though?
Nothing about what he said in that Q & A of that post from his Patreon is untrue.

No offense in any way, but only reason you're saying that he should take it down (and "be honest" when he has always been till now) seems like because you can't handle waiting for the update taking a lot longer (which Hopes admitted yes that it was taking too long but also said before time and time again, that he'll implement shorter release cycles after this upcoming v0.08 release) than what you expected.
But that shouldn't be the valid reason to take it down.

And I said it before and I'll say it again, just cause you spam same complaints again and again ("Oh it's taking too long" which you've already said the first time around) doesn't mean the update will come quicker.
Why not just be patient and wait till it gets released, and in the meantime, try out other games to keep yourself occupied (unless you don't want to play other games lol)?

 

[Paco Loco]

Lastly, the real reason for the prolonged update time is that I add one minute to the release date every time someone asks about the release date.

Bummer. I was prepared to promptly put all the blame on the never-ending questions from a certain 'Mr. Bitter Truth'

 

[c3p0]

Lastly, the real reason for the prolonged update time is that I add one minute to the release date every time someone asks about the release date.

At least you don't let a character from the Delucas universe die each time someone ask about it.

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[Paco Loco]

At least you don't let a character from the Delucas universe die each time someone ask about it.

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When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update?

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[JJJ84]

At least you don't let a character from the Delucas universe die each time someone ask about it.

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When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update? When is next update?

I'm surprised you didn't turn it into a wall of text. You're losing your touch man but even so:

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[captcha69]

You're adding too many assumptions.
The way it works is that if patrons feels like it takes too long, they'll stop supporting. And once the updates gets released in a good pace, they may decide to support again (or not). Patrons are not mindless bots. They're humans with their own thoughts.

The way you're phasing it makes it sounds like I am acting in a malicious way and hiding that it takes a long time.
I've made it very clear in the front page of my Patreon that this is a hobby, and the time can take a long time depending on many factors, and I've never hidden this fact.
Some people accept it and others does not. I do not force anyone to support nor lie about the situation.

Again, I know that the time hasn't been great, but what is important is that I am honest and communicate that with both the players and the patrons.

what i did was separate patrons in two, those who trust and those who dont, and try to put myself in their shoes, for those who trust u, they do it cause they want to believe in ur word, right? or why would u assume they do it? cause they also dont know "all the pieces of the puzzle" right? they just know the pieces that u tell them, and then they have to trust u, again this is all about believing in others, and yes its sounds very sinical, but it is how it is, is not an "assumption of malice" is the way patron works, ur word is ur trademark in patron. As for those who no longer trust... well, is not like "there are not scammers in patreon" is a true sentence, right? so they have to look up for themself, wich is ok, again, even if u have explained that it could take longer etc, is for ur patreons to believe in ur word or not, like u say "they are not mindless bots" and those who stop supporting u, do it cause they need proof to believe in ur word, but this is my opinion, i wasnt saying any of that as a fact, didnt call u a liar or that u act in malicious ways. U could be or not, is not like u are a saint, right? i dont remember seeing u in any pantheon, so i assume u arent... pls dont smite me, jk.


Of course there is a lot more reason as for why patrons stop supporting, but for this case i did made the assumption that most of the people who quit, quit because of the delay, and like i say, i try to put myself in their shoes, and understand their reason, but only them know, i was just trying to understand it myself and sharing it.


pd: didnt like that, pls dont handle ur own work as a joke, that is, if u were being serious with the whole "add 1 min every time people ask" if not, u can just ignore this.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

The first thing I write is that it is impossible to give an estimation on, as this is my hobby.
Under 3-4 months is what I wanted and is what I'm aiming for.

I also clearly write that I have had updates taken a lot more, which indicate that an update can take a lot longer than 3-4 months.
Do note that this was written back when the updates still had the normal update rates of 3-4 months if I remember right.
I tried to prepare people on the possibility of taking a long time even before it really happened.

The current long update times are not what is planned for the future. I've mentioned many times that I aim to change the style to shorter update cycle with shorter content in the next updates.

Lastly, the real reason for the prolonged update time is that I add one minute to the release date every time someone asks about the release date.

Lord hope I actually have a question in the future will there be an in-game guide

or some kind of help system

for all the contracts

so you don't have to look for walkthroughs or randomly click on the screen trying to figure out what to do next

 

[JJJ84]

Lord hope I actually have a question in the future will there be an in-game guide

or some kind of help system

for all the contracts

so you don't have to look for walkthroughs or randomly click on the screen trying to figure out what to do next

Hopes did say there will be a tutorial contract that will serve as a "Beginners contract" that people will be able to go through before the "Nimble Fingers" contract.

Bit of mixed feelings about actual in-game contracts guide suggestion tbh:

1) Personally, I didn't find the contracts to be that difficult (granted, this is just personal opinion, experience may vary depending on each individual), so while I thought first one or two tries did take getting used to, with more repetitions (mild grind in order to gain the best equipment) I found myself pretty much easing into it.

2) I like the idea of the game not specifically telling me what I should do regarding contracts (no hand-holding), and it gives the freedom for exploration.
With the current existing contracts, I found myself exploring every nooks and crannies of all rooms, checking to see if I missed anything. Doing that, and finding something by surprise was kinda fun.

Having said that, I also do understand some may have struggled with contracts. So if HopesGaming ever decides to implement an in-game Contracts guide, I'd say have it as an option in the settings where the user can toggle the guide on or off depending on their preference.

But there is also a question whether such guide can even be implemented without much affecting the game's code (where everyone would need to start over......again).
If that's the case (where the in-game guide being put in will force everyone to start over), I'd prefer it to not happen (cause we already restarted once already with v0.07 gameplay mechanics being brought in, and it's just way too soon for another restart to happen).

 

[Mr snor]

is the coding almost done? just asking no need to rush it

 

[Den187]

When I don't visit this thread few months and just saw release date:
-Great, new update is out! Oh, it's 2021-04-23...

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Hopes did say there will be a tutorial contract that will serve as a "Beginners contract" that people will be able to go through before the "Nimble Fingers" contract.

Bit of mixed feelings about actual in-game contracts guide suggestion tbh:

1) Personally, I didn't find the contracts to be that difficult (granted, this is just personal opinion, experience may vary depending on each individual), so while I thought first one or two tries did take getting used to, with more repetitions (mild grind in order to gain the best equipment) I found myself pretty much easing into it.

2) I like the idea of the game not specifically telling me what I should do regarding contracts (no hand-holding), and it gives the freedom for exploration.
With the current existing contracts, I found myself exploring every nooks and crannies of all rooms, checking to see if I missed anything. Doing that, and finding something by surprise was kinda fun.

Having said that, I also do understand some may have struggled with contracts. So if HopesGaming ever decides to implement an in-game Contracts guide, I'd say have it as an option in the settings where the user can toggle the guide on or off depending on their preference.

But there is also a question whether such guide can even be implemented without much affecting the game's code (where everyone would need to start over......again).
If that's the case (where the in-game guide being put in will force everyone to start over), I'd prefer it to not happen (cause we already restarted once already with v0.07 gameplay mechanics being brought in, and it's just way too soon for another restart to happen).

yeah I think I figure out a solution to it tell me what you think you can go on your laptop and spend money and buy guides or map

it will be like drawings or walkthroughs like what we have now telling you what to do

I think what made some of the contracts hard to get the 100% was that you had to talk to a certain person before you talk to others and couldn't figure that out

I know Mobsters use guns but am i the only one who wants a katana

 

[JJJ84]

yeah I think I figure out a solution to it tell me what you think you can go on your laptop and spend money and buy guides or map

it will be like drawings or walkthroughs like what we have now telling you what to do

I think what made some of the contracts hard to get the 100% was that you had to talk to a certain person before you talk to others and couldn't figure that out

I know Mobsters use guns but am i the only one who wants a katana

Hmmmm...... while adding items for purchase I'd imagine wouldn't be a big problem, the main issue I see is the fact how that will impact when playing through the contract itself.
Because you'll need this map and walkthrough implemented when actually going through the contracts, right (since you don't wish to go back and forth looking at a separate walkthrough document file or other walkthroughs and playing the contracts themselves), as in-game guide?

That will no doubt impact the code, but how much will it actually impact it?
Much to force a restart? Or just minimal impact?

I think that question, only Hopes and his coder for the contracts can answer.



And yes, Katana would be pretty dope, ha

 

[c3p0]

And yes, Katana would be pretty dope, ha

Only one? Guess I'm going with the usual Daishō combination of a Katana and a Wakizashi then.

 

[JJJ84]

Only one? Guess I'm going with the usuall Daishō combination of a Katana and a Wakizashi then.

Spoiler: Nah, not just Katana and Wakizashi, gotta get them all lmao

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[c3p0]

Spoiler: Nah, not just Katana and Wakizashi, gotta get them all lmao

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Even better the Delucas style Daishō: Ice-cream and a gun