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Rovenant

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My theory never hinged on the hair. It hinges on how How Lucan was portrayed and talked about. Even though you say," I'll not start a theory without evidence," that is false. Cause technically you are theorizing he is their full brother. Luca was portrayed and talked about in a good light. You think Hopes would offhandedly bitch slap Lucan with saying Antonio inherited his father's violence? :ROFLMAO: It just makes no sense. He was shown as a peaceful man even at his death and just before it. (Note that even though i type peaceful all the way up to death im referring to what his reaction showed. His reaction was not a man of violence, but a man pleading for his daughters life. A man brought to the edge cause of circumstances.) Like I typed before switch Luca and Antonio. Do you really think Antonio would act like Lucan did face with the decision to either kill his little girl or her kill him. Which he knew she would never do. He would have raged his balls off.

I will say one last thing about hair color. You are right, but Hopes has been meticulous. Which is why i believe the hair is a dead give away. A different hair color of a child than that of his/her parents is very rare. Hell its even possible for hair color to darken over time. My older (half blood related) brother as a kid had dirty blonde hair. Mine was even more chestnut colored. Now our hair have darkened to almost looking like their a few shades from being black. But when it comes to how meticulous he has been with the game and even wanting to change the backgrounds in some places to truly fit the game its shows he has a well thought out plan for the game. beside Lucan being a man of violence would not help the story. Hell his death would be a little less impactful. Men of violence dying is a common thought. A peaceful man that is another story. Besides going back to what was said about him he clearly was a light to Cordia. How could someone be a light to someone if they had violent tendencies? You remember how Cordia calls Wilfred a "Gentleman on the outside, but a brute on the inside?" Its always looked like she felt that his brute inner self was distasteful. Reminding her of the cruelty of the past. Lucan clearly was lighting a path forward and away from that path. (note: When i say light I am referring to the fact that he was said to be the reason he smiled and his death was the reason it was taken away. But believe its the combination of what happend with Luna, Lucan's death and how his death came about.)
Come on, if you take the time to read me im always saying I think the same you do, but so far there are enough evidence. I said the same about Lucan some times now, but I not sure Cordia had more than one husband. But when you told me all the thing about the hair I just wanted to show you that its not conclusive, at least for me now.

What im trying to avoid is make a big theory without real evidence. I have a lot of "ideas" but im trying to talk only about the ones that had some correlate with what they said or what we see. Just that. You keep telling me the same, and I tell you again: I THINK THE SAME AS YOU DO hahaha, but this isnt enough in my eyes to start a theory and write it here.

So, Im not arguing with your point of view.
 

Cabin Fever

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Ok here we have when Gildart talks about your past (the only image that shows you full body) and Luna past with M6:

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The way I see it you are a little taller than Luna, so if Luna has 6 y/o (after some months she turned 7 years old) lets guess you had around 7-8 years.
In the timeline that means after 2 years from this point your father left.

If we follow your theory regarding the age, then even with your father and mother around you Wilfred division were scouting you, then your father left and we know the rest. The implications are that if your mother and father were Serpent class (at least your mother were) then they probably knew Wilfred were scouting you, so we need to find out why your father left and what changed because of that (that affected the scouting and your mother).

And another important thing. If the Serpents betrayed Cordia, even if they werent in war because of that, it means they betrayed the DeLuca family (because they all founded but for some reason they all left her in charge). So its hard to believe they will allow the DeLuca family (Wilfred was in that time her mentor) to scout you as a future member or anything similar, more if your father was around and we know they all hated him.

Im still missing a piece of this puzzle or I need to analyze other point of view.

P.D.: Did you know that the man that was with Luna and hit her the first day is (probably) the same that was in the second room (not the caretaker, the other one that told her to avoid seeing him with her left eye)?
I dunno, those boys look 10-ish and older to me.
 

JJJ84

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Younger.

Sorry, I've come to see too many one word posts recently. "Update", "Save", and so forth. But to me they indeed look considerably younger than 10.
They look younger than 10 for me too.
Also, is it just me, or does the kid MC look younger than the bullies?

Reminds me of one of those classic trope of the upper year kids at times bullying the younger kids outside schools (though it does happen in real life too).
 
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Lorenz1

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Honest question. Do you still remember the plot of the game?

Also, it had been almost a full month since the last dev patreon post that "the game is done". Like, patrons or if anyone here are active on discord, t f is going on?
 
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Rovenant

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They look younger than 10 for me too.
Also, is it just me, or does the kid MC look younger than the bullies?

Reminds me of one of those classic trope of the upper year kids at times bullying the younger kids outside schools (though it does happen in real life too).
Hard to say because there are only two images, and this one is the best to analyze that. But it looks a little shorter than them. And it's probably the point, MC outsmarted them because it was easy than fight, so it makes sense they were a little taller than him.
 

Rovenant

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Considering that the last few dozen pages are chock full with discussions of the most intricate details like precise timelines, I'd argue that quite a few do. I certainly do.
The only plot I need is Cordia smiling, Luna being hugged, Gracie looking for suspicious activity on random people, Isabel teasing, and Wilfred making jokes.

JJJ84 you need to make a DeLuca quiz to show that your are a worthy DeLuca historian hahaha.
 

Paco Loco

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Also, it had been almost a full month since the last dev patreon post that "the game is done". Like, patrons or if anyone here are active on discord, t f is going on?
"The game is done" is about the processes of creation - storyline and renders are done. Now, it is still on adding new codes and the code revision itself, since the game on v. 0.07.2 has several bugs and Hopes mentioned that he won't rush the guy who is helping him through this process.

As I said before, I will not hurry the coder. It would be incredibly stupid of me to release the game a few days earlier, but with lots of coding issues (and without the new codes which are being added).

The long release dates have been answered multiple times now as well.

We're not at the unknown state. We're at the final state.
He is optimizing and improving the code.
As far as I know, he is already working on the next version while he waits for the finish of the coding process to proceed to tests and finally deliver v 0.08.
 

Rovenant

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I just cant stop making theories hahaha, someone please help me!!

So, here it goes again:

Since the beggining there was something I couldnt explain in any of my theories: Why Luna? Why M6 didnt take Gracie instead? and now I think I have an explanation.

We need to remember that before M6 Gracie was tested and the family knew she was a genius. So, if an organization wanted to take a child of the DeLuca family, which one was the best option (talented)? Of course the answer is Gracie. So, why taking Luna instead? My first theory was that Luna was choosen because of her age; Antonio was kind of a failure due to the violence, so if someone wanted to create a "perfect ruler" close to Cordia then it was the next in line. But the big flaw in my first theory was that Gracie and The Forrest happened BEFORE Luna was abducted, and in my theory it doesnt make sense to test Gracie before Luna, or make Luna live that hell if Gracie was best option to rule in the future.

The big problem: I was too focused in Wilfred being the mastermind.


Before my new theory lets see what we know so far:
- Cordia wasnt always like she is now, in fact the way she talks about her past implies that she was having fun. But we know that she had Serpent talent, fought a war, founded DeLuca, Serpents betrayed her, and in the present she is a woman that doesnt show emotions (only in some rare moments).
- Antonio liked men (maybe woman too) and that was a problem in this kind of world. She married Isabel but one day she had an accident and lost the child, and after that Antonio changed again and became like he was in the past.
- Gracie had a big talent, and one day "The Forrest" happened (we dont know yet about that) and Luna (who was the older sister) said it was the scariest day of her life, but Gracie just dont remember anything; after that she became more similar to Cordia acting without much emotions.
- Luna and all the M6 that we all know.

If all of that wasnt a coincidence, and all those dots are connected, then theres someone in the shadows trying to "create" someone. So, follow me a little more.

What was the gain to M6 with the child abduction? And why they retrieve Luna?
They put some girls in the same place so they will become friend/family. Then after that was accomplished the new task appeared with the dogs, they were teaching them to leave moral and survive. The girls shared the food, but M6 were watching so its hard to think that they didnt know, and after some time (and when Luna birthday came) they put them between sword and wall. All of that led to suffering and a death. After that, and in the moment were Luna was more depressed, they bring Lucan (the way he looks implies he was abducted the same day as Luna) and made her kill him. And after that they made "her sister" betrayed her (and not anyone, the one she loved more), after all of that came the second place, where they made them obey and fight for survival. They tried to beak her subjetivity taking her name and saying she was a boy (and beaten her if she protest), but they failed.

There was no sense in all of what they did. And it looks like they pushed Luna more than the others, like if they were going for her soft spot. So, Luna had a friend, and she died, when Luna was happy (her birthday) they made the worst punishment so she would think it was her fault, she thought might escape or be rescued by her family but they made her kill Lucan, and the only thing she had at the end was her trust in her sisters, and they made the one she trusted more stab her.
After that she had no name, couldnt look with her left eye and was "a boy", and even when she was happy with the Caretaker they took that too.


So, my theory is that there is an organization trying to test members of this family to made them change. Maybe to "create" a new Serpent or another Cordia (if she wasnt and experiment herself). But maybe they wanted Antonio to become more serious and strict but he couldnt and became like he was in the past. Gracie with The Forrest that we still dont know what happened and if she failed or not, but she changed and became more like Cordia. And Luna with M6 but at the end she didnt break.

Another possibility around this theory is that someone is trying to destroy Cordia life, making her suffer. Probably another Serpent, because we can think as all of this as attacks against the DeLuca, so if the ones that betrayed her were trying to take revenge its plausible they did it: Antonio loved his child and they took it, Luna wanted to be a princess and they made her a crazy/violent woman "like a boy", Gracie wanted to make friends and she became emotionless like her mother.

The last part is: What about the MC?
Well, it depends on the theory, if it is the first one I said, where someone is trying to "make" or "test" others, then maybe MC was in the same situation, because all the assassination atempts made him toughen, but this leads me to Wilfred, because he probably pulled the strings to a lot of those situations and the one where MC killed another human. And remember that Wilfred said Lucan wasnt worthy of being with Cordia, and it makes sense that someone with that kind of way of thinking, and the one that is Mentor of Cordia, to force others like this.
If we take the second theory then MC has a connection with the Serpent making all of this (maybe his mother) and has a way to make relationships that can help them to heal (like Wilfred said, in other words), so someone can be trying to eliminate him, or maybe trying to make him leave the family.
 

Paco Loco

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I had promised that I wouldn't, but you deserve an appropriate answer.

lmao XD a year without an update.
Somebody, please! Give this genius a Nobel!
NOOOO SHIT Sherlock! Like nobody here knows it!

if you pledged $5 on his patreon since the last update that comes out as a full AAA game price, how can you ppl waste money like that?
Hey Sherlock, do you know F95 is not Patreon, right? Here, the majority doesn't pay for any content. They get for free, as you most probably do. So, if you want to shit who is paying for a game you get for free, why are you here? You are just one more of thousands who's tried to use the same stupidity to claim your own point, acting like no one ever did.

Believe me, after I saw a stupid guy quoting the bible to claim another random user as a 'messiah' who's brings the truth, you look like a amateur in your desperation of attention.

But that was a nice try, boy!

As a reward for your efforts, here is some change to you take the bus and go back to your place.

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No description what is the difference between full experience and freeroaming, i want to drop this game after 30 seconds of playing
 
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