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Oh you all already are.WE ARE ALL FUCKED NOW!
You all just don't know it yet.
Oh you all already are.WE ARE ALL FUCKED NOW!
this is my original post that been replyed to and then i replyed to that comment. which lead to your comment afterwards.seriously in that guide says at the end of the pages after the missions there are shopping which to buy skills and guns how the hell you got that if the game it self doesnt have that part. i finished the game and the MC doesnt have any what so ever skill other than what he got from the missions thats all, nothing fancy moves or so like all others. and then he get in the rescue the assassins sister and still has no any type of special skills that could help him in his fights or so, even the gun that he has is the only one that he got when he got promoted nothing special???!!!
any explination to that??!!!
He's a complete newbie to the mafia world, so it's only natural everyone else is better than him in terms of skills.ok maybe he will be over powered but which better to be the only one who doesnt have skills while there are others all around him with skills and he cant fight them????
its like Apes all around him jumping and he is the only human that cant do that lol.
plus how he could be confident talking to any of these women who are way stronger than him, oh dont give me that cute or handsome thing... thats wont be enough if the man isnt stronger then he is laughable. weak. which is hard to accept as a player who cant be strong or skilled then why i am playing it...
what i mean is its a choice that the player has freedom of choice that been taken from which no one would accept that dont know about you if you accept being the weakling who doesnt want to be strong instead of being able to defend and save. and then luna comes and put that statement about him running away which proves my point weakling.
which there is other his age who can, plus dont forget he is close friend to jalen who is don's son which means he could picked some skills with his friend oh well its not my story to tell or to care if this game would turn out good or bad soon enough we will see.... but again at least he could pickup one or two skill in these missions he made then maybe it would be reasonable and beleavable....He's a complete newbie to the mafia world, so it's only natural everyone else is better than him in terms of skills.
Luna's rank is Capo, Gottardo & "Serpent" are 4 Serpents level, Angelo, Caterina, Amita, Amata, are Capos, Onorina, Gildart etc are Wilfred's Division.
Even characters like Pelata, Biondo, Grey, Joey are Elite Soldatos and are much higher than him.
So it's not reasonable to expect him to be overpowered (whether in story or gameplay) since in terms of this mafia life, he's a "baby" and incredibly inexperienced.
He's meant to grow as a character.
When he gets out of his habit of just "using his cunning to be underestimated" & only reacting to his problems instead of taking active approach to solve them, then his growth will really climb I'd imagine.
But until then it's a climb to get stronger (little by little).
So it's for story reasons that he's weak now, and it makes sense for gameplay to be the same.
I mean as Whitey said, can't have him be Superman/Serpent level from day 1.
Oh wow. These look wonderful.New Banner and Fan Sigs!
Fan sigs with each of the main LIs.
By Raminita, a great great job! Beautiful!
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Cordia Deluca:
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No, I did not say the dev should focus on the VN part. In fact, I said I HOPE HE DOES NOT attempt to develop the VN mode right now, and wait until either the game is finished or almost complete. Read it again.Firstly, no offense but regardless whether saying it as a principle or not, you've been pretty much implying in both of your previous 2 posts that he "really should have focused on the VN aspects of the game rather than the contracts."
Only way for that to happen would have been for him to completely abandon all the actual gameplay aspects and just solely focus on the VN mode (and that's not happening, given he's found the suitable system for his contracts).
Secondly, I think you're getting yourself a little bit confused here with the terminology.
The game is split into 3 following segments:
1) Main Story & Main Events (as the name says, the events in those headers in "Journal")
2) Girls' lewd/free-roam events (a.k.a. Luna/Gracie/Isabel/(and in the future) Cordia events)
3) Contracts (a.k.a. Wilfred's Contracts) though this gameplay system is also implemented to Main Story/Main Events with the missions
Free-roam are the girls' lewd events content (where MC roams around the DeLuca mansion going around the rooms to access these girls' events). It is not what you're referring to (which I'm assuming are contracts).
Not sure what you mean exactly when you're referring to "new free roaming is a superior version of cheating with mods, more intuitive, more fluid and without the risk of damaging the save file progress" but ever since v0.07 released last year, this thread has had many people coming to the thread with the posts
"I can't access the Ombra mission. I used mods."
"Can't begin the Ombra mission, can't talk to Wilfred at all. I used cheat before."
Now you may not have experienced the issue while using the cheats/mods, but several people (stopped counting when numbers rose and rose but at least 10+ people, even close to 20 maybe) have experienced their saves being screwed over by using cheat mods.
So that risk is always there (whether it's to lesser or to greater degree). If people still wish to use cheat/mods to jump over the contracts, then that's their decision, but they also gotta deal with possible consequence of their saves being corrupted.
Lastly, it's not like Hopes said every single update will have Wilfred's Contracts in it (and no, next update will not have Wilfred's contracts content).
Also, Hopes intended for the gameplay system in Wilfred's contracts to naturally transition to the main story, and he did that; first time was the Ombra mission, and then we had the Gracie Team missions against the Bonanzo Family in v0.08.
As someone who didn't really like the first version of Wilfred's Contracts of the game, I'm actually quite satisfied with how everything turned out.
To further reiterate, as Carta said previously, while it's different from VN aspect, it's still content.
Just not the content you (or people who only want the VN part) expect/want.
So even if you dislike it for possibly eating up development time for VN aspects of it (though I highly doubt it would as much as it did for v0.07 development), it is what it is.
Full experience is his full vision of the game, and that will always come as priority (which yes, includes the contracts system).
Wow! Thank you very much!I have good news. I managed to get your save file working. Drop this file into game/code and then relaunch. You should be able to load your save.
But regarding this original post, I did not go too much into depth, you seem to get the wrong impression that there were "skills" as such, like "fancy moves" or similar. That is/was not the case. There was nothing you could do (story wise) that you couldn't do later. It was a different system that had different tools, but in which there was nothing special (you never knew how a mission went, you would only get a screen which either said "success" or "failure").this is my original post that been replyed to and then i replyed to that comment. which lead to your comment afterwards.
So in essence you are considering it the programmer's fault that there are no safeguards against players modifying values as they want and no explanations on how not to cheat? He should write code so values which are impossible to get in game should not lead to crashing? He should consider all possible scenarios that wouldn't appear in game whether or not they work and make a handy chart? I fail to see how that would be faster.HOWEVER, it would be 1 billion times faster and easier, to fix such issues, such as correct the code line that does not recognize stats over a certain threshold OR create a mini guide of what NOT TO DO, in order to avoid bugs.
Such as "DON'T INCREASE STATS ARTIFICIALLY, WAIT UNTIL STATS ARE REQUIRED, THEN PURCHASE ONLY THE AMOUNT REQUIRED THROUGH THE GAME'S SHOP"
Can you give the link pleaseVv0.08.0.2 android apk available. 844 mb
Have you ever red what i said? why do u talk about the first try then? i said, once the missions are green, meaning once u finished them several times and 100% themThat basically goes against the whole point of the contracts though.
You're not supposed to get the perfect score in the first try. If it ended up that way, it would make gameplay pretty much obsolete (with MC's stats becoming meaningless).
The aim of the contracts (which I feel) is to in a way struggle or be challenged in the beginning, and through repeats of the contracts with higher stats (gained either by doing girls' free-roam events or equipping better gear), grow and eventually rise to get that perfect score of "S" after some tries.
I have the same exact bug, and I started fresh with the last update, so IMO it is definitely a game breaking bugI've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.
EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?
His other posts about VN-mode should be waited until the game is almost complete makes absolutely no sense either.So in essence you are considering it the programmer's fault that there are no saveguards against players modifying values as they want and no explanations on how not to cheat? He should write code so values which are impossible to get in game should not lead to crashing? He should consider all possible scenarios that wouldn't appear in game whether or not they work and make a handy chart? I fail to see how that would be faster.
The idea of a game is playing it, it is not modding it. Sure, you can have fun with mods (including stat changes), but if they don't work, the game doesn't need a "fix". Unless I completely misunderstand what you are saying, that would be taking time away from developing the actual game for the potential benefit of shortcut seekers who are not even able to check whether their shortcut works.
Dude, you're delusional if you seriously think Dev should change his game just to cater for people cheating through unsupported mods by changing his code or a mini-guide which actually says "Don't increase stats artificially" lolHOWEVER, it would be 1 billion times faster and easier, to fix such issues, such as correct the code line that does not recognize stats over a certain threshold OR create a mini guide of what NOT TO DO, in order to avoid bugs.
Such as "DON'T INCREASE STATS ARTIFICIALLY, WAIT UNTIL STATS ARE REQUIRED, THEN PURCHASE ONLY THE AMOUNT REQUIRED THROUGH THE GAME'S SHOP"
Didn't took me more than 20 seconds to write a fix, that the developer took months to fix it. What method was faster? That's my point entirely.
He over spent his development time into something, that could've been dealt faster and easier. Instead of PROGRESSING THE STORY CONTENT, of which is still stuck on the same spot after YEARS of nothing.
That was my mistake (my bad).Have you ever red what i said? why do u talk about the first try then? i said, once the missions are green, meaning once u finished them several times and 100% them
Haha no problem mate.That was my mistake (my bad).
In my defense, waking up way too early without a cup of coffee will do that to me sometimes, heh.
I've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.
EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?
By Contracts, do you both mean Wilfred's D-contracts?I have the same exact bug, and I started fresh with the last update, so IMO it is definitely a game breaking bug
"The Contract"?no we are talking about the contract i in the "Main event" part of the journal, the one you have to do to become soldato. i made this poste with some stcreen.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-08-0-2-hopesgaming.15459/page-1224#post-8327434
Above steps will complete "The Contract" event (that is, if everything works properly).I just did a speed run of it (pretty much ctrl fast skip dialogue), and "The Contract" event works fine on my end.
Are you sure you're doing it correctly?
First:
You go talk to Wilfred (select Contracts in dialogue option):
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Then after you're done talking with him, click on your laptop, and select "research on Contracts".
After that, "sleep" for 3 nights.
When you're done with that, go and talk to Wilfred again.
Select "Wilfred, I got nothing out of search" and the event will complete.
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If you don't have The Contract you did not install the patch. To install you need to extract all of the files from the zip file into your game folder. It should asked you to overwrite 39 filesI've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.
EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?