Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[blblblblb]

That basically goes against the whole point of the contracts though.

You're not supposed to get the perfect score in the first try. If it ended up that way, it would make gameplay pretty much obsolete (with MC's stats becoming meaningless).
The aim of the contracts (which I feel) is to in a way struggle or be challenged in the beginning, and through repeats of the contracts with higher stats (gained either by doing girls' free-roam events or equipping better gear), grow and eventually rise to get that perfect score of "S" after some tries.

Have you ever red what i said? why do u talk about the first try then? i said, once the missions are green, meaning once u finished them several times and 100% them

 

[blblblblb]

I've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.

EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?

I have the same exact bug, and I started fresh with the last update, so IMO it is definitely a game breaking bug

 

[JJJ84]

So in essence you are considering it the programmer's fault that there are no saveguards against players modifying values as they want and no explanations on how not to cheat? He should write code so values which are impossible to get in game should not lead to crashing? He should consider all possible scenarios that wouldn't appear in game whether or not they work and make a handy chart? I fail to see how that would be faster.

The idea of a game is playing it, it is not modding it. Sure, you can have fun with mods (including stat changes), but if they don't work, the game doesn't need a "fix". Unless I completely misunderstand what you are saying, that would be taking time away from developing the actual game for the potential benefit of shortcut seekers who are not even able to check whether their shortcut works.

His other posts about VN-mode should be waited until the game is almost complete makes absolutely no sense either.
I mean granted, I only play Full Experience mode only so if that gets developed quickly I'd be happy but what about all those subset of players who have been waiting all this time for that VN mode?

Is he saying they should wait even longer for that mode to even start?
For a game that's gonna be multi-seasons (and likely to last at least couple of years)?

LOL easy for him to say, given he plays either through "Full Experience" (with cheat mods) or "Only Story + Freeroaming."
Try telling that to people who are waiting for VN mode (I mean not that I count how many are waiting, but I'd assume there are some of those people as subset of player base of DeLuca).

HOWEVER, it would be 1 billion times faster and easier, to fix such issues, such as correct the code line that does not recognize stats over a certain threshold OR create a mini guide of what NOT TO DO, in order to avoid bugs.
Such as "DON'T INCREASE STATS ARTIFICIALLY, WAIT UNTIL STATS ARE REQUIRED, THEN PURCHASE ONLY THE AMOUNT REQUIRED THROUGH THE GAME'S SHOP"
Didn't took me more than 20 seconds to write a fix, that the developer took months to fix it. What method was faster? That's my point entirely.
He over spent his development time into something, that could've been dealt faster and easier. Instead of PROGRESSING THE STORY CONTENT, of which is still stuck on the same spot after YEARS of nothing.

Dude, you're delusional if you seriously think Dev should change his game just to cater for people cheating through unsupported mods by changing his code or a mini-guide which actually says "Don't increase stats artificially" lol

Let me give you a real life example:

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It's not the Dev's responsibility to give such warnings.
Any mods that aren't made by the dev himself (either within the game as built-in or as a separate mod), it's the player's own responsibility (that should be basic common sense lol) for artificially raising the stats.
It's the same reasoning for the Code as well.
The Dev does not have responsibility to change the code just to cater for a small subset of people who wish to cheat, if the result isn't possible to get in a normal way and would end up crashing.

And you seem to be continuing to imply Freeroam mode looks to have taken a lot of time.
Well perhaps it did perhaps it didn't.

Noone knows that except for the dev.
But one thing is for sure.

Long time of development especially between v0.07 & v0.08 the dev already explained it was a lot of real life matters getting in the way which caused the delay.

So while on one hand you could be right in that Freeroam mode may have ate up some development time, on the other hand, it could also have not taken as much as one would expect.

Only Hopes (the dev) would be able to answer that.

 

[JJJ84]

Have you ever red what i said? why do u talk about the first try then? i said, once the missions are green, meaning once u finished them several times and 100% them

That was my mistake (my bad).

In my defense, waking up way too early without a cup of coffee will do that to me sometimes, heh.

 

[blblblblb]

That was my mistake (my bad).

In my defense, waking up way too early without a cup of coffee will do that to me sometimes, heh.

Haha no problem mate.

 

[JJJ84]

I've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.

EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?

I have the same exact bug, and I started fresh with the last update, so IMO it is definitely a game breaking bug

By Contracts, do you both mean Wilfred's D-contracts?




So you're saying you selected "Contracts" button (on first screen), but no D-contracts show up (i.e. Nimble Fingers, The Painter etc?)? It all comes up..... empty?

 

[blblblblb]

no we are talking about the contract i in the "Main event" part of the journal, the one you have to do to become soldato. i made this poste with some stcreen.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-08-0-2-hopesgaming.15459/page-1224#post-8327434

 

[JJJ84]

no we are talking about the contract i in the "Main event" part of the journal, the one you have to do to become soldato. i made this poste with some stcreen.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-08-0-2-hopesgaming.15459/page-1224#post-8327434

"The Contract"?

Did you try this method (quoted my old post)?

I just did a speed run of it (pretty much ctrl fast skip dialogue), and "The Contract" event works fine on my end.

Are you sure you're doing it correctly?

First:
You go talk to Wilfred (select Contracts in dialogue option):
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Then after you're done talking with him, click on your laptop, and select "research on Contracts".
After that, "sleep" for 3 nights.

When you're done with that, go and talk to Wilfred again.
Select "Wilfred, I got nothing out of search" and the event will complete.
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Above steps will complete "The Contract" event (that is, if everything works properly).

 

[3 Pood]

I've installed the patch, then started the game, went to sleep and in the morning I spoke with Wilfred...but in the "Events" page there is no "Contract" event to trigger.

EDIT:
There is a possibility that it's a bug because my exp level is a lot more than 100% (actually, Rank 4 - 133.3%)?

If you don't have The Contract you did not install the patch. To install you need to extract all of the files from the zip file into your game folder. It should asked you to overwrite 39 files

 

[blblblblb]

"The Contract"?

Did you try this method (quoted my old post)?



Above steps will complete "The Contract" event (that is, if everything works properly).

Well that is the thing, we never have the contract talk with Winfried to trigger, i didn't try to start again, but i originally started fresh from the last version of this game so i think it is a bug, depending on what event u finish, basically i was doing all possible event available before doing the main story. Maybe i'm wrong about the reason, but i'm pretty sur it is bugged ^^

 

[blblblblb]

If you don't have The Contract you did not install the patch. To install you need to extract all of the files from the zip file into your game folder. It should asked you to overwrite 39 files

yeah you right,i though the patch was in the main game download cause the page is named by the version of the patch.....

 

[blblblblb]

"The Contract"?

Did you try this method (quoted my old post)?



Above steps will complete "The Contract" event (that is, if everything works properly).

Nvm i'm dumb, i though the game was already patched for some reason, cause the page is named with the pach version^^ now that i instaled the patch wilfried talk to me about the contract, every thing seems fixed

 

[LauLau]

Nvm i'm dumb, i though the game was already patched for some reason, cause the page is named with the pach version^^ now that i instaled the patch wilfried talk to me about the contract, every thing seems fixed

What patch is this? I need it too

 

[JJJ84]

What patch is this? I need it too

On the thread's OP:

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Can you give the link please

But i don't know it is working or not...

 

[djsverige]

But regarding this original post, I did not go too much into depth, you seem to get the wrong impression that there were "skills" as such, like "fancy moves" or similar. That is/was not the case. There was nothing you could do (story wise) that you couldn't do later. It was a different system that had different tools, but in which there was nothing special (you never knew how a mission went, you would only get a screen which either said "success" or "failure").

again picking on the language but also its deferant or not that is backward when something been there and got removed so acting like smart ass just to show off wont change the fact that its true.

 

[Master of Puppets]

So in essence you are considering it the programmer's fault that there are no safeguards against players modifying values as they want and no explanations on how not to cheat? He should write code so values which are impossible to get in game should not lead to crashing? He should consider all possible scenarios that wouldn't appear in game whether or not they work and make a handy chart? I fail to see how that would be faster.

Generally speaking it's better to program in a safe manner so unexpected values are handled better than just crashing. Otherwise that does increase the possibility of bugs happening when the stats can be raised that high legitimately.

 

[3 Pood]

Generally speaking it's better to program in a safe manner so unexpected values are handled better than just crashing. Otherwise that does increase the possibility of bugs happening when the stats can be raised that high legitimately.

The issue is more that cheat mods are actually shadowing original values. They aren't even the same types. I take no responsibility for people carelessly modifying the types of values they don't even understand n the first place. I would never get anything done otherwise

 

[JJJ84]

The issue is more that cheat mods are actually shadowing original values. They aren't even the same types. I take no responsibility for people carelessly modifying the types of values they don't even understand n the first place. I would never get anything done otherwise

Yet there are still those out there whining saying it's you and Hopes fault that you didn't change the code to allow the game to be able to be cheated to a ridiculous level (or put out a big warning sign/guide saying "Do not increase stats to artificial level or it will mess your game up")

Just to clarify, 3 Pood, you're the Coder for DeLuca, yes?

 

[djsverige]

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Yet there are still those out there whining saying it's you and Hopes fault that you didn't change the code to allow the game to be able to be cheated to a ridiculous level (or put out a big warning sign/guide saying "Do not increase stats to artificial level or it will mess your game up")

Just to clarify, 3 Pood, you're the Coder for DeLuca, yes?

lol should i comment to what just happend here.

kiss a** lol