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Is he calling JJJ84?:unsure:

As from my memory and understanding Lucian (I think) is the father of Gracie and Luna, as well is Lady Cordia her mother. For Antonio, Cordia is his mother, but he could have another father than Gracie and Luna, although no proof for either are given yet.
Well if thats so, why does Gracie whispered that Luna is adopted? And why isnt she a little more devasted about the death of Lucian and the circumstances? And its hinted that Luna is only a little older than Gracie, not even a full year... i dont think Cordia gave birth to Luna and was pregnant a few weeks later right away with Gracie again... but you are right, i replayed many scenes, no proof yet... so far its only for sure that Lucian was Lunas dad.

BUT there is one important thing... IF Luna and Gracie are bloodrelated, it would be incest if there would be a threesome along the way... so everything regarding a possible rleationship with Luna AND Gracie is pretty much ruled out, why? Steam Release is coming and there is no way in hell that Steam will aprove incest... Patreon neither. And so far its pretty much a given thing during the game that you will be intimate with both... do you really think Hopes will risk incest content? I dont think so. (and yep, sister on sister is incest too... and regarding steam and patreon rules, even a threesome would be violating the rules)

ah and of course... on patreon there is a Q&A post...

Q. Is there going to be incest in the game?
A. No.


So yeah, there is no proof ingame yet, but the fact that there will be no incest in the game is pretty much a confirmation to my theory or not?

Of course, still iam not sure and we have to wait and see how the game unfolds.

For Antonio, i dont care... i think its pretty obvious that he will not be a _really_ important figure throughout the game... I am pretty sure he will die along the way, this way if you go for Isabel the netoare route would be solved too in the long run. And of course the MC is going to be don in the future i think... therefore, Antonio needs to go anyways... My guess? His bisexuality will come to the surface and this will be his death at some point or maybe he turns on his family cause he feel betrayed/threatened by the uprising MC or something like that.
 

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Well if thats so, why does Gracie whispered that Luna is adopted?
Your useal sibling dispute? Your sibling knows where it hurt the most and often do it, if they want or if they lose it.
And why isnt she a little more devasted about the death of Lucian and the circumstances?
You've seen Gracie and how she handle her emotions? You do see the 180° degree she can make? So, her not showing her emotions on the loss of her father or even not having them, at least as other would, don't proof anything - at least in my book.
do you really think Hopes will risk incest content?
No, but it is up to him and you can ask him himself, he is activ on the zone.
... so everything regarding a possible rleationship with Luna AND Gracie is pretty much ruled out, why?
Yes, it seems so.
So yeah, there is no proof ingame yet, but the fact that there will be no incest in the game is pretty much a confirmation to my theory or not?
It seems so, too. But then having a realationship with both of them (or three or four of them) do not must include incest at all. If eg. Luna and Gracie don't do anything sexuall with each other, there wouldn't be any incest involved. Luna or Gracie could even be there, when the MC have sex with the other.

Although I can't see that and harem is also out of the window as it seem, that would be a possibility. Or that MC have a realationship going on with both, maybe even both know that, but their realationships doesn't mix.
For Antonio, i dont care... i think its pretty obvious that he will not be a _really_ important figure throughout the game... I am pretty sure he will die along the way, this way if you go for Isabel the netoare route would be solved too in the long run. And of course the MC is going to be don in the future i think... therefore, Antonio needs to go anyways... My guess? His bisexuality will come to the surface and this will be his death at some point or maybe he turns on his family cause he feel betrayed/threatened by the uprising MC or something like that.
It could be. But if Antonio is written out of the story, I want it epic. Not because he is bi and by some idiotic mafia code he must be put to sleep with the fishes. I want it rather:
 
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Well if thats so, why does Gracie whispered that Luna is adopted?
"You're adopted" is a common tease/insult among siblings.

And why isnt she a little more devasted about the death of Lucian and the circumstances?
Too young maybe ?

BUT there is one important thing... IF Luna and Gracie are bloodrelated, it would be incest if there would be a threesome along the way... so everything regarding a possible rleationship with Luna AND Gracie is pretty much ruled out.
So...no 3-way then ?

So yeah, there is no proof ingame yet, but the fact that there will be no incest in the game is pretty much a confirmation to my theory or not?
If I have to choose, I'm gonna go with "or not".

And of course the MC is going to be don in the future i think.
I am by no means an expert on mafia rules and regulations, but wouldnt the head of the Deluca family have to be a Deluca by blood or adoption ? Like if you kill of Antonio because he's gay Luna would be next in line, and if you kill of Luna because she's blonde, Gracie would take over, so you'd have to whack her too. We have to quiz hopes if serial killing will be a valid option in future episodes, hell I'd be down for that.
 
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So... i played the game for first time...

I gotta say it looks like a grinding shiet like many others, the cons in this one is that the "boss" lady that i assume is the "mother" figure on this game, is the worst model of said game , it looks like a model from 2016 renpy games and that may not be bad simply i dont like it

Ok said that...

the daughters...dude... what is wrong with this game?

those are my first thoughts

the story part seems intersting, but if you don t have hot girls that acompany that story telling is gonna be boring and will be a hell of a challengue to play...
 

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So... i played the game for first time...

I gotta say it looks like a grinding shiet like many others, the cons in this one is that the "boss" lady that i assume is the "mother" figure on this game, is the worst model of said game , it looks like a model from 2016 renpy games and that may not be bad simply i dont like it

Ok said that...

the daughters...dude... what is wrong with this game?

those are my first thoughts

the story part seems intersting, but if you don t have hot girls that acompany that story telling is gonna be boring and will be a hell of a challengue to play...
Well, thank you for your thoughts, but I don't share your opinion.

Also this is not a porn game, but a Christian game, you've been warned.
And I find you a strange one, as many others, especially in this thread, would say that they are a buch of hot girls and women in this games, including all females of the Deluca family.
 

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So... i played the game for first time...

I gotta say it looks like a grinding shiet like many others, the cons in this one is that the "boss" lady that i assume is the "mother" figure on this game, is the worst model of said game , it looks like a model from 2016 renpy games and that may not be bad simply i dont like it

Ok said that...

the daughters...dude... what is wrong with this game?

those are my first thoughts

the story part seems intersting, but if you don t have hot girls that acompany that story telling is gonna be boring and will be a hell of a challengue to play...
Then don't.


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Well, thank you for your thoughts, but I don't share your opinion.

Also this is not a porn game, but a Christian game, you've been warned.
And I find you a strange one, as many others, especially in this thread, would say that they are a buch of hot girls and women in this games, including all females of the Deluca family.
well, different tastes
 

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i know i will be facepalmed, hated and told that i gotta leave that's the price to share a negative opinion in a bunch of fanboys thread, i will do it don t worry
 
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i know i will be facepalmed, hated and told that i gotta leave that's the price to share a negative opinion in a bunch of fanboys thread, i will do it don t worry
Totally missed the point...

Standard reaction "you facepalm me because you are a fanboy"...

Maybe I facepalmed you because your post is "girls are ugly so I wont play".

Ok... what shall we do with that? Beg you? Convince dev to change all the girls in the game? Use hypnosis to change your perception?

The facepalm is because you are literaly wasting time to tell us you dont like the characters design... ok... good to know i guess?
 
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"You're adopted" is a common tease/insult among siblings.
But if you use that phrase to "tease" wouldnt you make sure its heard? She whispered it more to herself, and Luna didnt hear it. I dont think that this phrase was used by Hopes just in a spur of the moment thing... There is more to it. And yeah Luna and Gracie are teasing each other very much, but its nearly always the same way "youre stupid, no youre stupid and ugly" and so on... to say "youre adopted" is on a whole other level i think. And she used this only once, never again. We will see... i am still more convinced that Luna and Gracie are not really bloodrelated... But of course, if they are, it would be a easy task to avoid incest, they can share the MC without a threesome, or Hopes make us choose at some point, which would be devasting for one of the girls for sure. But its sure a nice thing that this game has so many possibilities for the future and well hidden secrets... like that very much.


And for the part that MC will become don someday... This is just a "guess" more or less (like everything else too of course... still there is no proof for anything i said, its just my gut feeling and some hints i picked up), but iam pretty sure it will lead to this at the end. And Cordia already "changed" many rules... cause she is the first female at the top of a family (in the universe of that game, i dont know anything about the real cosa nostra nowadays, maybe there is a female on the top too?) so i think it wouldnt be that much of a big step to make someone a don after her without being bloodrelated. (and no, i dont doubt that fact... the MC is clearly not bloodrelated to Cordia, Luna or Gracie, cause that would be incest and Hopes himself ruled that out on patreon)
 

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But if you use that phrase to "tease" wouldnt you make sure its heard? She whispered it more to herself, and Luna didnt hear it. I dont think that this phrase was used by Hopes just in a spur of the moment thing... There is more to it. And yeah Luna and Gracie are teasing each other very much, but its nearly always the same way "youre stupid, no youre stupid and ugly" and so on... to say "youre adopted" is on a whole other level i think. And she used this only once, never again. We will see... i am still more convinced that Luna and Gracie are not really bloodrelated... But of course, if they are, it would be a easy task to avoid incest, they can share the MC without a threesome, or Hopes make us choose at some point, which would be devasting for one of the girls for sure. But its sure a nice thing that this game has so many possibilities for the future and well hidden secrets... like that very much.


And for the part that MC will become don someday... This is just a "guess" more or less (like everything else too of course... still there is no proof for anything i said, its just my gut feeling and some hints i picked up), but iam pretty sure it will lead to this at the end. And Cordia already "changed" many rules... cause she is the first female at the top of a family (in the universe of that game, i dont know anything about the real cosa nostra nowadays, maybe there is a female on the top too?) so i think it wouldnt be that much of a big step to make someone a don after her without being bloodrelated. (and no, i dont doubt that fact... the MC is clearly not bloodrelated to Cordia, Luna or Gracie, cause that would be incest and Hopes himself ruled that out on patreon)
It's entirely possible that all of your predictions or assumptions come true, or are true, it's just that there is not enough information in the game yet to support them to the point of "near certainty". And don't get me wrong speculation is awesome, it's what this thread has not enough of to spark really interessting conversations in my opinion.

Case in point, since you seem to have an investigative mind. Figure out for me who the fuck poisoned the MC's meal and how he or she did not get caught. There is a single point of origin where only Cordia knows the future, as in that she is gonna invite the MC to eat with the family. She tells Wilfred, who then walks over to the MC's room and that takes like what, a minute ? Then they talk for less than a minute, walk to the dinning room and yet someone somehow managed to posion only the MC's plate and nobody elses. Antonio even confirms at the dinner that he didn't know the MC would join them..so who ... WHO ? It drives me nuts.

Even assuming that they have a cooking staff, who Cordia informs that another person will be joining them for dinner, how many people can there be for a mafia family not to go through them one by one and find the guilty party ?

You figure this out for me and I'll jump on the "luna is adopted train", promise !
 

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And don't get me wrong speculation is awesome, it's what this thread has not enough of to spark really interessting conversations in my opinion.
We have that a lot. Only so, that after over 25 000 post, we had discussed it a lot and in the last few updates no new ideas was give us, so, again, it has ended in the last few thousend or so post and it also didn't help that some filii came into the thread and have their share in it that some regulars don't visit or post her anymore or at least not as much as before.
And I would even count myself among them.
 

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Totally missed the point...

Standard reaction "you facepalm me because you are a fanboy"...

Maybe I facepalmed you because your post is "girls are ugly so I wont play".

Ok... what shall we do with that? Beg you? Convince dev to change all the girls in the game? Use hypnosis to change your perception?

The facepalm is because you are literaly wasting time to tell us you dont like the characters design... ok... good to know i guess?
last post i do here

Maybe I facepalmed you because your post is "girls are ugly so I wont play". - If that is not enough reason to not play a porn game then i dont know what it is...

Also you expecting me to play a grind sandbox hotless game with what i assume it wil be countless of repeating the same action 100 times to get +1 Heart shit only to get a sex scene with an orc of mordor, fk off
 
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We have that a lot. Only so, that after over 25 000 post, we had discussed it a lot and in the last few updates no new ideas was give us, so, again, it has ended in the last few thousend or so post and it also didn't help that some filii came into the thread and have their share in it that some regulars don't visit or post her anymore or at least not as much as before.
And I would even count myself among them.
Yea I agree, my statement was incomplete, it should've been "not enough and not by a wide enough variety of users to get a decent sample size of different opinions and points of views." Seems all a bit stale here, but I think I read the next update is just around the corner so maybe that gives you guys more stuff to discuss and attracts more people to the thread. I think Hopes delivered a really good game so far and deserves it.
 

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Seems all a bit stale here, but I think I read the next update is just around the corner so maybe that gives you guys more stuff to discuss and attracts more people to the thread. I think Hopes delivered a really good game so far and deserves it.
Well, not all people think that Hope deliverd a good game, some think he do a game with the Orc of Mordor in it...
I agree and think Hope delivered one. Yet, I don't think that we have an update this year and I also don't think that the update will give "us" - or at least me - enough new leads for some of the old open discussions.

But it is nice to see some new face that enough this game.
 

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Maybe I facepalmed you because your post is "girls are ugly so I wont play". - If that is not enough reason to not play a porn game then i dont know what it is...
Keeps missing the point... Read before posting please. Read.

The whole point was that you came to tell us you dislike the girls so you will not be blaying the game. Ok. Good for you.

When people tell you they dislike your post, it is "because they are fanboys"?

Seriously? What were you expecting it was going to happen? L

You wanna complain about something, do it, its beautiful. I understand. Believe me, I do :lepew:. But don't cry if people complain about your complain.

Emm dont know what is the non-patriarchy version of "Grow a pair", so I welcome if anyone knows it
 
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But if you use that phrase to "tease" wouldnt you make sure its heard? She whispered it more to herself, and Luna didnt hear it.
I would suggest that perhaps she whispered it because she said it out of frustration, but knows her sister is already damaged emotionally, maybe from having to murder her own Father(!!). So, maybe, she wanted to say it as a retort, but didn't actually want to either hurt Luna more, or have her explode with anger, so she whispered it?

People often whisper angry retorts because they want to say it, but they do not want to actually be heard by the person they're saying it to.
It's why "muttering under your breath" is an expression.
Dude, follow your own advice.
Subjective opinions are fine, pointlessly arguing about them is not.
It seems that a number of people hold the opinion, that your opinion is utter nonsense.
You are allowed your opinion, so are they.
Arguing about it is worthless. You find the girls unattractive. I do not. Neither of us are going to change the other's mind.
Why you posted your vitriolic statement is beyond me. Something constructive would've been far more useful & less of a whinge, but you do you.
 
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Emm dont know what is the non-patriarchy version of "Grow a pair", so I welcome if anyone knows it
Don't be a pussy?
I would go with "Don't be a cunt/dick", but then again I don't really give a fuck...

If they don't understand that if you come into a thread and announce that you don't like them game, all females look like creatures from Modor or they like and doing it without saying anything postives either and neither write something that might be at least helpful for the dev, then I'm just suprise why they played the game in the first run and why they must announce that in the game thread.

As another has written already:
This is not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure.
 
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