Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[TimHawk]

AFAIK, family connection, bloodline, does strengthen a claim to be Capo di tuti i capi, or capomandamento, but the most important thing is support from other family members, or other cosa nostra members, outside the family.
But you need to have a legitimate claim, e.g. you were underboss, or consigliere & the son of the don doesn't want it.
If more than one high ranking party has a legitimate claim, it can be fought out, or negotiated.

That's really interessting, so if Antonio were to die, Luna wouldnt auto inherit the position like let's say in the John Wick universe, if her mother were to pass away ? And from how I read it, it would even be possible for a non Deluca to be the Don/Donna of the Deluca family, even though there still is a legit Deluca of age in the family ?

 

[TimHawk]

If Cordia & Antonio died, then the next in line would probably be Wilfred, due to seniority in the organisation & experience, with an agreement that he'd groom Luna or Gracie to take over eventually.
Of course, whether he would or not, is another story. Absolute power corrupts absolutely...

He did mentor Cordia, didn't he ? So maybe he has already passed the test of not grabbing or holding on to power at any costs. And my memory might be playing tricks on me, but to me it seems in that last episode that Wilfred wants less responsibilities and actually solely focus on grooming the younglings, I think that's how he's called them.

My mistake was prob that whenever someone speaks to Luna and Gracie, even though one is a capo ? and the other one is nothing, they both get treated with the same respect, so I just always figured people dont wanna piss of their potential future bosses.

 

[whichone]

He did mentor Cordia, didn't he ? So maybe he has already passed the test of not grabbing or holding on to power at any costs. And my memory might be playing tricks on me, but to me it seems in that last episode that Wilfred wants less responsibilities and actually solely focus on grooming the younglings, I think that's how he's called them.

My mistake was prob that whenever someone speaks to Luna and Gracie, even though one is a capo ? and the other one is nothing, they both get treated with the same respect, so I just always figured people dont wanna piss of their potential future bosses.

He did, indeed. That's a fair point, but perhaps he had no desire for the power back then, or thought Cordia would be better suited for it, than him.
Now, with time & age, he could feel as if he's owed.
More importantly, I don't think he believes that Luna or Gracie are ready for the role.
IDK, personally I don't think Wilfred wants to be the don, but I cannot rule it out, either.

If Cordia & Antonio both died, there would be no-one higher ranked than Wilfred.
Consigliere is generally 3rd in power - 1. Boss (capomandamento), 2. Underboss (sottocapo), 3. Consigliere, 4. Serpent, 5. Capo, 6. Soldato.
Luna is a low-tier capo. See here.
She has less claim than the Serpents, in terms of experience & rank.
Only her position as daughter of the donna raises her claim. Which also accounts for what you noticed, with people treating them both with respect.
Gracie is not a Family member, so has no rank, yet.

 

[Jimayo]

With Faerin & Talothral, that's 3, out of hundreds.
I think we can definitely agree that it's an exception.

Dude who did Now & Then and now The Interim is monthly like clockwork. So is Ataegina and The Seven Realms.

 

[TimHawk]

First thank you for taking the time to explain all of that to me, I really appreciate it.

Luna's rank is; daughter of the Don.
Skill-wise- low tier capo rank. (as an example Caterina, the rollerskate capo, is mid-tier.)

Now this confuses the hell out of me, doesn't that suggest that Luna's rank is 'daughter of the don" and that it supercedes any personal achieved rank on her own merit like her capo title ?

From what you explained to me I understood the ranking system, but where does 'daughter of the don' rank ? Is it just below Wilfred, because other than Cordia, Antonio and Wilfred even the Serpents seem to stand at attention whenever one of the girls is around. Is that one of those "only Hope knows" thingies ? Damnit now im really curious if a Serpent could order Luna around or vice versa...this is gonna drive me mad...

 

[virracocha]

last post i do here

Maybe I facepalmed you because your post is "girls are ugly so I wont play". - If that is not enough reason to not play a porn game then i dont know what it is...

Also you expecting me to play a grind sandbox hotless game with what i assume it wil be countless of repeating the same action 100 times to get +1 Heart shit only to get a sex scene with an orc of mordor, fk off

The models aren't aesthetically pleasing to your taste?!?!? Surprising!! Do you like furries per chance?

 

[whichone]

First thank you for taking the time to explain all of that to me, I really appreciate it.



Now this confuses the hell out of me, doesn't that suggest that Luna's rank is 'daughter of the don" and that it supercedes any personal achieved rank on her own merit like her capo title ?

From what you explained to me I understood the ranking system, but where does 'daughter of the don' rank ? Is it just below Wilfred, because other than Cordia, Antonio and Wilfred even the Serpents seem to stand at attention whenever one of the girls is around. Is that one of those "only Hope knows" thingies ? Damnit now im really curious if a Serpent could order Luna around or vice versa...this is gonna drive me mad...

Pleasure mate. Glad it helped!

Her official position is daughter of the don, same as Gracie's (despite her not being ranked in the Family hierarchy), which commands respect from her Mother's position.
Her own Family rank is Capo (low-tier), but she is not as highly ranked in that regard as Caterina (mid-tier), the rollerskate capo.
So she is underneath Serpents, in the Family hierarchy, she's underneath Caterina, too.
But, because she's daughter of the donna, no-one is going to treat her with disrespect, as that would also be disrespectful towards Cordia.
Officially, a Serpent has the superiority of rank to order her around.
But, because of her being the daughter of the Donna, I expect that they would only pull rank to protect her, or their mission (if they thought she was jeopardising it, or something).

 

[TimHawk]

Pleasure mate. Glad it helped!

Her official position is daughter of the don, same as Gracie's (despite her not being ranked in the Family hierarchy), which commands respect from her Mother's position.
Her own Family rank is Capo (low-tier), but she is not as highly ranked in that regard as Caterina (mid-tier), the rollerskate capo.
So she is underneath Serpents, in the Family hierarchy, she's underneath Caterina, too.
But, because she's daughter of the donna, no-one is going to treat her with disrespect, as that would also be disrespectful towards Cordia.
Officially, a Serpent has the superiority of rank to order her around.
But, because of her being the daughter of the Donna, I expect that they would only pull rank to protect her.

You know we should force developers to have a working wiki page with all kind of background info before they are allowed to post a game here Just like the Mass Effect codex or something. Thank you again !

 

[whichone]

You know we should force developers to have a working wiki page with all kind of background info before they are allowed to post a game here Just like the Mass Effect codex or something. Thank you again !

Not official, but:

You must be registered to see the links

 

[TimHawk]

Not official, but:

You must be registered to see the links

That's a start ! But there is no secret info on there, right ? Like Hope should totally take a day and add some nice background info, after all character building is in my opinion his biggest strength.

When I played the last update I literally said to myself "Man, I wish the update would have one less gracie sex scene and instead Antonio with a sixpack in his hand, knocking on the door of the MC's room and say 'let's go outside, have a few beers and get to know eachother' ". Like that doesnt take many renders, right ? 5-6 tops and then Antonio could talk about the pressures of being the heir apparent and how it is to grow up in this environment and how it felt to deal with the fallout of what happened to Luna and his dad and so on and on. Hope could totally knock that shit out of the park !!!

Or Wilfred knocking in the MC's door saying "come with me, we have to pick something up" and then he could talk about how he got started in the buisness and stuff during the drive.

But nooooooo, all Hope cares about is Pussy ... sigh ...

 

[Cartageno]

Dude who did Now & Then and now The Interim is monthly like clockwork. So is Ataegina and The Seven Realms.

As do some others, Kronos Time Titan comes to mind - but it is indeed a minority.

You know we should force developers to have a working wiki page with all kind of background info before they are allowed to post a game here Just like the Mass Effect codex or something. Thank you again !

Mass Effect has the Codex, Elder Scrolls the lore books, Fallout 4 a wiki, DeLuca a JJJ - there are different ways to achieve this

 

[Jimayo]

Good shout with The Seven Realms, great game.
Not sure about Ataegina, though. I know it's been pretty frequent since Act II began, but I'm thinking I remember waiting more than a single month for numerous updates during Act I.
Could be my memory playing tricks.
Is that a definite thing, it's consistently been 1 month?

Can't speak to that, I didn't start playing until near the end of act 1 but since act 2 started every time I continue my save it's been within 3 days of a month since I last played.

 

[7empest5teele]

I haven't played this since MARCH, I come back, update it to the current version, and still cannot even start My Name Is Luna, even though I finished chapter 9 LONG ago.
I went to her room at noon EVERY day of the week, and still nothing, I have ALL the special equipment from the jobs, so WHAT am I missing here??

 

[7empest5teele]

Hi there,

I finished Story Nine and My name is Luna (what a backstory...) and all character missions, but I still can't proceed to Story Ten. Any precondition existed?

BTW, this is a very nice game even without much fap content.

HOW did you activate "My name is Luca" if you remember it would really help a few of us.

 

[whichone]

HOW did you activate "My name is Luca" if you remember it would really help a few of us.

Have you spoken to Wilfred about Luna, at his usual place?

Spoiler: My Name Is Luna

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[7empest5teele]

Have you spoken to Wilfred about Luna, at his usual place?

Spoiler: My Name Is Luna

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I have ad no option comes up for Luna at all, just the usual questions.
The thing is I REMEMBER doing this mission way back when played this months ago, including every disturbing scene.
Now it's showing that it hasn't been completed and I can't continue the main without it.
Edit: I went through the gallery and can see chapter 10 unlocked and clear, yet My name is Luca is still locked??

 

[virracocha]

I have ad no option comes up for Luna at all, just the usual questions.
The thing is I REMEMBER doing this mission way back when played this months ago, including every disturbing scene.
Now it's showing that it hasn't been completed and I can't continue the main without it.
Edit: I went through the gallery and can see chapter 10 unlocked and clear, yet My name is Luca is still locked??

might need to talk to her in the evening in her room first?

 

[7empest5teele]

might need to talk to her in the evening in her room first?

I have talked to her in every room at every time in a week, and still no new revelations.

 

[virracocha]

I have talked to her in every room at every time in a week, and still no new revelations.

it could be that you need to progress with 1 of the other character quests first, the game might be waiting for you to finish another quest that has been triggered, just a guess, I'm not sure if the game prioritises multiple open quests.

 

[7empest5teele]

it could be that you need to progress with 1 of the other character quests first, the game might be waiting for you to finish another quest that has been triggered, just a guess, I'm not sure if the game prioritises multiple open quests.

The save is at 0.8.3 and I am going through all other quests, finished Gracie (My favorite lady) and am working on Isabella now...actually as I type this, her music is playing in the background AS I "work on her"
I think you might be right, and I will get to Luna when I finish more of these.
Thank you for your opinion, it helped a lot.
Edit: NOPE I finished ALL other quests, and have none left, next is STILL supposed to be Lunas and STILL i cannot activate it, BUT both Luna and Gracie icons are located in the living room now from morning to night??