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only if wilfred gives me something good from his wine collection...and i don't mean the cheap fuselDind't you like the pink dress?
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Stand aside ladies, here's Wilfred showing off how HOT he is and how it's all done.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll need to go bathe my eyes in acid...... again
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Now if you'll excuse me, I'll need to go bathe my eyes in acid...... again
TimHawk is trying to beat JJJ in the question department! Let's see who has the most questions heh.
By the way, don't take offense whenever I say I can't say due to spoiler. And if I accidentically tell a spoiler remember to act like I didn't write anything and just close your eyes everyone.
I did it. I'm the best.
By the way, don't take offense whenever I say I can't say due to spoiler. And if I accidentically tell a spoiler remember to act like I didn't write anything and just close your eyes everyone.
With this, I guess I'm setting a new record
For those who know me on this thread, well.... you know what to expect.
But for those who don't, I put the below under spoiler tags so you don't get......overwhelmed
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By the way, looking forward to the update, Hopes.
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I did it. I'm the best.
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I'm getting an error after trying to save at the start of contract mission "Burn The Ombras", thoughts?
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I had a feeling this was the case. Last time I tried suggesting the idea that the MC and Antonio may share a father and be half-brothers, it was shot down by people saying you had said that MC wasn't related to the family at all. I figured it was said just to avoid any suggestion of possible incest.
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I highly doubt that will happen.
The game's Season 1 (out of 3 seasons planned by the Hopes), is pretty much complete (sure, there is the remaining half of update that is still coming very soon, but those are pretty contracts stuff. In terms of Main story narrative content, the season is done).
If Hopes had planned to introduce more main LIs, I think he would have introduced more in season 1.
Would feel too out of blue to introduce a new main LI in season 2.
Probably main LIs roster will fixed with just Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia, the 4 characters (not a huge number, but I wouldn't say it's small either. In my eyes, 4 is an acceptable number).
But I'd imagine there will be more "side" LIs that MC might be able to develop relations with (like Eiza, Siobhan, Bikini lady etc etc)
Well, he said that multiple times (that MC wasn't related by blood to the Family) on this thread yes, but also it's been on his Patreon page (since Day 1 of development) in FAQ section that DeLuca will not have any incest.
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Lies!
In episode 2 he will reveal a new LI, we know that as we have stolen his script and notes. It will be, drum rolls, no other than Wilfred.Or do you think, he posing in that blue dress was a coincidence?
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Hi guys, sorry to ask this. Anyone please can share a save file at the end of version 0.06? If possible i would like to avoid starting the game from the beginning. I've played it but i was on Mac and now i have changed to PC.
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You can always do an "How I Met Your Mother" reveal. At the end of chapter 3, three clicks from finishing the game, a new girl will be introduced and you will marry her.
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I think he is half brother (same father) to Cordia's son? Could be it's only suggested though...
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That's something I said but Hopes never answered.
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4 main LI is enough for me too.
It doesn't appeal to me that all existing main LI"s are members of the same family, although each has a different character build.
I think it's still not too late to add another main LI.
Siobhan is an excellent main LI material in my opinion.
Considering that every family has different cultural traditions, I'd be excited to have him as the main LI. It's like another mysterious treasure to be discovered.
Eliza is an excellent side LI.
It looks like we may have a harem of side LI"s.
Frankly, I don't care, it doesn't matter to me whether it happens or not.
Isabella's case is special I don't see it as a main LI.
A route specially created for Netori fans.
I'm not sure I want to be romantically involved with a married woman who says she still loves her husband.
Frankly I wonder how the developer will finish this Netori route.
Maybe Antoni will be killed?
It's not my intention to offend anyone, please Netori fans, don't get me wrong.
Mc will probably never be a high level Capo in the game in terms of physical technique and skill.
However, thanks to his superior leadership skills, he will achieve great things with a small group at his disposal.
Like Wilfred, I will watch with excitement as Mc turns into a true leader.
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I know I don't mind the number of LIs either, as long as those characters are well-written and have interesting arcs, whatever the number, I don't care, and so far they're all interesting, although I wonder what will happen with Cordia, if something happens at all. Isabel too, cause yeah that's a fucked up situation playing with fire like that, and Luna too cause of how broken she is.
Also, like you pointed out, those potential secondary LIs, there's also that woman we see on our first contract...
But the one I'm most interested with is Gracie, mainly because of something Uncle said to his lieutenants (last mission of 'Team Graceful, Grumpy, Ninja and Canoley'), about how the MC and Gracie complete each other with both their strengths and weaknesses, and how he, essentially, can't wait to see how they will fare in the future.
Wonder if he sees them taking over the family at some point.
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I hope we won't have to choose between the girls at the end of season 3.
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No harem tags, and a 'cheating' one (probably for Isabel, or maybe more).
I guess things could turn out ugly for the MC if you play as a manwhore (like I did).
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Always have to choose manwhore. I've got plenty of love to give
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I hope you don't take any offense by this risky0, but I'm actually opposed to having other Family female characters to be main LIs.Not sure about that.
What's to say one, or more, of them couldn't be future LI?
What's to say that more new women won't be introduced as the game progresses? I'm pretty sure there will be more characters added.
I don't see any reason why new LIs - main or side - couldn't be introduced.
The story allows for it.
I'm absolutely happy with the 4 that we have & do share your doubt, but the door has not been closed for more to come.
I thought he was talking about Antonio & MC potentially sharing a Father?
Incest doesn't really come into that discussion, unless someone wants MC to fuck Antonio.
He can be half-brother with Antonio and there still be no incest.
It's the "blood related" part that matters for this & Hopes said he "can't say".
Which does absolutely nothing to remove it as a possibility.
The fact that Hopes "can't say", because it's a "spoiler", might actually suggest that it has some merit.
Wouldn't be much of a spoiler if the answer was "No, they're not related".
Why?
My reasons;
1) Additional strain in freeroam
DeLuca has many strengths, but one of them I definitely think is its simplicity in free-roam. Just a simple freeroam where MC goes around inside the DeLuca mansion, with ease of navigation.
But what happens when we place other girls as main LIs?
These girls will need to be included in the freeroam, and the DeLuca mansion itself wouldn't be enough.
And I've seen far too many games where freeroam forces players to click click click from on side of town to another, which more likely than not ends up becoming a tiresome, even chore like experience.
This game, I'd actually like Hopes to keep to the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) principle and keep things relatively the same (sure, 2~3 rooms might get added in the DeLuca mansion for freeroam when Cordia's path unlocks [Hopes confirmed it before], but otherwise, I'd imagine freeroam would likely stay with same ease, as long as number of main LIs stay the way it is, 4 with the DeLucas.
2) New Main LI's Lewd/freeroam event
What differentiates between a main LI & side LI primarily is the fact that the mains have their own dedicated lewd/freeroam events category (shown in the journal. Cordia is an exception because her route won't be unlocked until season 2).
Side LIs, their events are interspersed within main story and main events (like Eiza in main events, or Siobhan in main story and main events).
Either changing a current side LI into main LI or bringing a new LI altogether would mean there would need to be dedicated lewd events arc would need to be created for the new main LI.
And from what I can tell from Hopes (after asking him about relationship portraits etc in the past), I didn't get any impression at all that he wanted to expand the main LIs roster.
If a side character proved to be popular (Like Onorina, Wilfred's Division girl. She's gotten massively popullar)?
He said he'll try to include them more in the storyline and give them more screentime.
But that doesn't mean he'll turn them into main LIs.
Just makes them be side LIs with bigger presence (and possibly more funsie time with MC
), and main LIs will always be still getting lion's share of screentime even though from time to time, these side LIs (like Eiza. Siobhan) will get their time to shine.3) Rotation & players' response
This I guess sort of relates to the point 2.
By having dedicated separate lewd/freeroam events with a new LI, it would just put further strain on the rotation.
As people who have been following the game long enough will know, content release has always been on rotation, which was initially the following;
Main story/Main event → lewd/freeroam → Main story/Main event → lewd/freeroam →........(and so on)
With v0.07, contract gameplay got added, and these contracts being included had some people complaining that content release for the main girls will now be slower (there's the rotation above, and rotation within the girls as well, according to who had their events content last time, and whose turn is it. So I guess......rotation, within rotation?).
Personally, I have no issues with the contracts at all (in fact, I like them), but I have seen posts with that type of reaction before.
Adding new main LI in would just make the whole rotation slow down even further and we'll have more people saying lines like "When is my favorite Luna gonna have her lewd/freeroam events content? It's been ages......"
And even now we're still seeing some of those posts (yes, some of it's due to Hopes' RL getting in the way, but part of the reason is also due to roations).
With Side LIs, there's less of that problem because they're used more sparingly (compared to the mains, whom are expected to carry the storyline a lot of the times), so the side LIs content can be more sprinkled within main story & main events.
and last reason;
4) The planning (?)
I think my guess is, given season 1 Hopes from the beginning had always planned to have the 4 mains LIs (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia).
The 4 of them having relationship portraits and operating with the Red Hearts (Love Points) system is a clear indicator of them.
The rest of the female characters, I don't think he planned to have them as main LIs at all.
Just side LIs.
But I don't necessarily find that to be a bad thing. Even as a side LI, there may be some who get a lot more screentime than other side LIs (obvious examples will probably be Eiza and Siobhan, and even the nun Amita and Amata will get expanded roles as side LIs due to their popularity [Hopes confirmed in my latest series of Qs])
I think what he is currently doing works really well.
So I think it's just unlikely he'll try to add something more when the currently dynamic/system of main LIs & side LIs roster is working well for him.
And tbh, assuming that the current way of LIs mains/side roster category is the way he always planned his game, I'm not keen on him being pressured to change that and would rather he stick to his plans).
Though I guess I do understand the sentiment of it all.
For example, in Chasing Sunsets, Tara, a side character, I think just may be the best character of that game. But despite having sex with the MC, and having incredible depth to her character, she's not a main LI. Heck she's not even a side LI from what I can tell at this point.
So yeah, wish the dev had planned her to be a main LI to begin with, but in the end I understand the dev's decision not to (despite my disappointment).
As for the whole MC and Antonio sharing same father.
Tbh, I dunno. While it seemed like that may have been hinted in few scenes, but I'm not sure I firmly believe in that theory either (and Hopes saying Spoilers, I don't necessarily think he might be implying it to be true. I just think he said that to be careful not to slip anything, because the whole question itself [i.e. who MC really is] is basically spoiler zone, regardless of whether the answer is 'yes' or 'no').
But having said that, if we hypothetically assume for a moment that MC & Antonio share their Father, wouldn't Cordia literally be MC's........stepmom (given Cordia is Antonio's mother, which season 1 didn't give us any reason to doubt)?
And from what I remember, the zone (this site) classifies incest as sexual relations between not just blood relatives, but people who are related in other ways, like stepmother, stepsister as well, and gives the incest tag to such relationship as well (though I guess someone else can check for me if that's true, or whether I have it wrong).
If what I remember is correct, given Cordia is one of main LIs, it's really gonna muddy the waters as to the "incest" topic, and I'm not so sure that is the road Hopes would want to take it (not that I mind incest games, but given he's said from Day 1 that the game will have no incest, the whole debacle would be endless with some claiming it is, whereas others claiming it isn't).
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I understand what you mean, but I disagree.I hope you don't take any offense by this risky0, but I'm actually opposed to having other Family female characters to be main LIs.
Why?
My reasons;
1) Additional strain in freeroam
DeLuca has many strengths, but one of them I definitely think is its simplicity in free-roam. Just a simple freeroam where MC goes around inside the DeLuca mansion, with ease of navigation.
But what happens when we place other girls as main LIs?
These girls will need to be included in the freeroam, and the DeLuca mansion itself wouldn't be enough.
And I've seen far too many games where freeroam forces players to click click click from on side of town to another, which more likely than not ends up becoming a tiresome, even chore like experience.
This game, I'd actually like Hopes to keep to the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) principle and keep things relatively the same (sure, 2~3 rooms might get added in the DeLuca mansion for freeroam when Cordia's path unlocks [Hopes confirmed it before], but otherwise, I'd imagine freeroam would likely stay with same ease, as long as number of main LIs stay the way it is, 4 with the DeLucas.
2) New Main LI's Lewd/freeroam event
What differentiates between a main LI & side LI primarily is the fact that the mains have their own dedicated lewd/freeroam events category (shown in the journal. Cordia is an exception because her route won't be unlocked until season 2).
Side LIs, their events are interspersed within main story and main events (like Eiza in main events, or Siobhan in main story and main events).
Either changing a current side LI into main LI or bringing a new LI altogether would mean there would need to be dedicated lewd events arc would need to be created for the new main LI.
And from what I can tell from Hopes (after asking him about relationship portraits etc in the past), I didn't get any impression at all that he wanted to expand the main LIs roster.
If a side character proved to be popular (Like Onorina, Wilfred's Division girl. She's gotten massively popullar)?
He said he'll try to include them more in the storyline and give them more screentime.
But that doesn't mean he'll turn them into main LIs.
Just makes them be side LIs with bigger presence (and possibly more funsie time with MC
3) Rotation & players' response
This I guess sort of relates to the point 2.
By having dedicated separate lewd/freeroam events with a new LI, it would just put further strain on the rotation.
As people who have been following the game long enough will know, content release has always been on rotation, which was initially the following;
Main story/Main event → lewd/freeroam → Main story/Main event → lewd/freeroam →........(and so on)
With v0.07, contract gameplay got added, and these contracts being included had some people complaining that content release for the main girls will now be slower (there's the rotation above, and rotation within the girls as well, according to who had their events content last time, and whose turn is it. So I guess......rotation, within rotation?).
Personally, I have no issues with the contracts at all (in fact, I like them), but I have seen posts with that type of reaction before.
Adding new main LI in would just make the whole rotation slow down even further and we'll have more people saying lines like "When is my favorite Luna gonna have her lewd/freeroam events content? It's been ages......"
And even now we're still seeing some of those posts (yes, some of it's due to Hopes' RL getting in the way, but part of the reason is also due to roations).
With Side LIs, there's less of that problem because they're used more sparingly (compared to the mains, whom are expected to carry the storyline a lot of the times), so the side LIs content can be more sprinkled within main story & main events.
and last reason;
4) The planning (?)
I think my guess is, given season 1 Hopes from the beginning had always planned to have the 4 mains LIs (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia).
The 4 of them having relationship portraits and operating with the Red Hearts (Love Points) system is a clear indicator of them.
The rest of the female characters, I don't think he planned to have them as main LIs at all.
Just side LIs.
But I don't necessarily find that to be a bad thing. Even as a side LI, there may be some who get a lot more screentime than other side LIs (obvious examples will probably be Eiza and Siobhan, and even the nun Amita and Amata will get expanded roles as side LIs due to their popularity [Hopes confirmed in my latest series of Qs])
I think what he is currently doing works really well.
So I think it's just unlikely he'll try to add something more when the currently dynamic/system of main LIs & side LIs roster is working well for him.
And tbh, assuming that the current way of LIs mains/side roster category is the way he always planned his game, I'm not keen on him being pressured to change that and would rather he stick to his plans).
Though I guess I do understand the sentiment of it all.
For example, in Chasing Sunsets, Tara, a side character, I think just may be the best character of that game. But despite having sex with the MC, and having incredible depth to her character, she's not a main LI. Heck she's not even a side LI from what I can tell at this point.
So yeah, wish the dev had planned her to be a main LI to begin with, but in the end I understand the dev's decision not to (despite my disappointment).
As for the whole MC and Antonio sharing same father.
Tbh, I dunno. While it seemed like that may have been hinted in few scenes, but I'm not sure I firmly believe in that theory either (and Hopes saying Spoilers, I don't necessarily think he might be implying it to be true. I just think he said that to be careful not to slip anything, because the whole question itself [i.e. who MC really is] is basically spoiler zone, regardless of whether the answer is 'yes' or 'no').
But having said that, if we hypothetically assume for a moment that MC & Antonio share their Father, wouldn't Cordia literally be MC's........stepmom (given Cordia is Antonio's mother, which season 1 didn't give us any reason to doubt)?
And from what I remember, the zone (this site) classifies incest as sexual relations between not just blood relatives, but people who are related in other ways, like stepmother, stepsister as well, and gives the incest tag to such relationship as well (though I guess someone else can check for me if that's true, or whether I have it wrong).
If what I remember is correct, given Cordia is one of main LIs, it's really gonna muddy the waters as to the "incest" topic, and I'm not so sure that is the road Hopes would want to take it (not that I mind incest games, but given he's said from Day 1 that the game will have no incest, the whole debacle would be endless with some claiming it is, whereas others claiming it isn't).
Isn't it a pressure to want the current structure of the game not to change?
You say that the game was planned in this structure in the form of 4 main LI, we cannot know this.
Even if what you said about the developer's only 4 main LI plans when creating the game is true, I don't want to get into a philosophical discussion, but over the years ideas and plans change.
And this game has been developing since 2018 as far as I can see it's a very long time.
My opinion has not changed about adding at least one main LI from a different family.
If the developer activates the game's VN Mode, we will not be affected by free roaming as a player.
I hope you don't misunderstand me.
Mc father/Cordia = They were not married.
Would this be incest?