drifter139

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There wouldn't be any possibility for anything of the sort, if you hadn't advertised the fact.
It's almost like you were actually seeking it... :unsure::ROFLMAO:


Who is Rita?
To the best of my memory, there is no character called Rita in this game. :unsure:
Do you both mean MC's Mother? AFAIK her name is Rina.
most likely that's who I meant. I was a bit sleep deprived when I had posted that so chances are I wasn't paying attention when I typed her name out. a good reminder it's never a good idea to be awake from almost 30 hours
 
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drifter139

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I mean, in my playthrough I didn't kill everybody. Pure weakness ...
I mean, not killing people doesn't make you a simp. going after a girl who would never want you makes you a simp. and considering in DS that the MC gets plenty of girls, that guy is easily an alpha
 

whichone

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lol I can't read "simp" without thinking back to 2000AD comic, in the 80's. Judge Dredd in particular.
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Although it meant "simpleton" in that.
Hmm, just noticed the flower switched lapels... "THE GENTS HAVE A DEFECTION!"
Ha ha ha, well spotted! I completely missed that, until you pointed it out.
Continuity error 101... :ROFLMAO:
 
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whichone

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why would he ask about his dad?
Because people think the guy who's burned out of the photo, of the original Serpents, is MC's Father.
You don't burn someone out of a photo, unless you have some personal (presumably painful) reason to remove their image.

People generally don't want to see their ex & burning them out of a photo is a pretty emotional response to whatever actually happened.
We know that Cordia feels some regret, over whatever happened with Rina, but Rina is not burned out of the photo.
This suggests that the blame\accountability is on the person who is burned out.
Suspicion is that MC's Father was young Cordia's partner, possibly betrayed her by cheating with Rina.
This would also provide some reasoning for Rina being somewhat mentally disturbed.
It also provides solid reasoning for why the Family has been watching him, since he was a child.
If he's the child of 2 Serpents, he has potential to be exceptional.

It fits, speculatively.
 
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Cabin Fever

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Because people think the guy who's burned out of the photo, of the original Serpents, is MC's Father.
You don't burn someone out of a photo, unless you have some personal (presumably painful) reason to remove their image.
Suspicion is that MC's Father was young Cordia's partner, possibly betrayed her by cheating with Rina.
People generally don't want to see their ex & burning them out of a photo is a pretty emotional response to whatever actually happened.
It fits, speculatively.
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Cabin Fever

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We know that the burned out Serpent & Rina both left the Family.
We do not know why, but there is clearly some major personal issue there, it's not just business.
Cordia is ice cold in business.

Rina's behaviour towards MC may well be a warped sense of her preparing him for the world he's born into. Funnily enough, it saved his life.
I don't think it needs to get rapey.

Cordia's regret, about the situation with Rina, could well be why MC's contract exists.
You could very well be right, but I think that if the MC was the result of consensual sex between the burned out Serpent and Rina, there's less of a reason for Cordia to take such an outsized interest in MC, since that would mean he's the bastard estranged son of an enemy. I think a big part of the contract is Cordia feeling sorry for a tragedy that happened to her close friend Rina.

But hey, only Hopes know for sure at this point. We are all just guessing and talking out of our behinds. :ROFLMAO:
 

terranq

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Hello Guys,

I am experiencing an issue loading my saves. I played the game and saved in multiple times. However, whenever I try to load my saves. The game always resumes from the same point which I am supposed to get a bottle of wine from Gina. Is there a fix for that?

THanks
Not as of right now, but Hope is aware and already looking into it. Keep in mind that he has a full time job, so it might take him a day or two.

Is there any update on this? All my progress is completely gone.
 

Cabin Fever

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Being the son of an enemy is not reason to keep an eye on him? What??
If anything, that makes him someone you absolutely want to know about.
Never heard of "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"?

Given that MC is highly manipulative, it's more likely that MC's Father manipulated Rina, than raped her.
Whatever rapey situation you're constantly envisaging, I think that's on you.
Maybe she\they just fell in love?
Her being raped does not, in any way, tie into her leaving the Family.
Her being manipulated, or being in love, absolutely does.

They would probably take an interest in someone who was the offspring of 1 Serpent, never mind someone with both parents being Serpents!
You cannot call it an outsized interest, without knowing what the contract is.
Perhaps what you consider outsized interest, is simply contractual terms.

If it was just Cordia feeling sorry for her old friend, then I don't see any reason why they have been monitoring MC since he was a child.
They would've just waited until the contract came due, then moved on him.
Which suggests that they were watching him & taking note of his manipulative skills in the playground, because of his potential.
Which ties directly into him being the offspring of 2 Serpents.
Genetic potential. It's 100% his bloodline, from both parents.
Hey relax, I'm just offering an alternate scenario. I even said you could very well be right. But until Hopes deems us worthy enough to know that part of the plot, and with JJJ sworn to secrecy and not leaking anything, we are both just guessing. The only difference between us is I'm bored so I'm pushing the theory further off the beaten track for fun.
 

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You could very well be right, but I think that if the MC was the result of consensual sex between the burned out Serpent and Rina, there's less of a reason for Cordia to take such an outsized interest in MC, since that would mean he's the bastard estranged son of an enemy. I think a big part of the contract is Cordia feeling sorry for a tragedy that happened to her close friend Rina.

But hey, only Hopes know for sure at this point. We are all just guessing and talking out of our behinds. :ROFLMAO:
If you think the information Hope gave us in the last update is correct and not misleading us on purpose, then the non consensual sex theory seems a tad strange.

Code:
Elektra : "Your mother was as vicious as they came."
Elektra : "Some would even say she was a morally bankrupt person."
Elektra : "Rina was engaged to another of the Serpents, one named Dante."
Elektra : "But he died when she betrayed the Family."
Elektra : "She was exiled. Not just exiled from the DeLuca Family, but from the entire underworld."
I don't even wanna know, what counts as so egregious in that fucked up world, that one gets exiled from the entire underworld, but it at least sounded like it's a very rare occurence and the setup makes it sound like no normal person could ever guess what it was because it's completely off the scale fucked up.

Like even cheating on a Don/Donna or rape probably isn't something that concerns the Pacificatoris and would've rather been handled internally.

However I agree with you that Cordia being so invested in the MC is very odd and with our current level of knowledge even crazy. She is putting her entire family at risk, by not just throwing the MC into a cell and throwing the key away, against the advice of Wilfred. And all we know is that she never met him and that she isn't blood related to him, so it stands to reason that it must be something HUGE, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

When Wilfred catches the "Gracie-Gang" after their kidnapping mission, he says to the MC :

"You may get away with a failure from this, due to your position in the Family."

What position ??? He's a Soldato ! Like the hints keep piling up, but it's never enough to tie it all together.

Let's all just agree, that the game and most of all Hope are infuriating and should not be consumed or talked to, unless being completely hammered !!! (y)
 

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If you think the information Hope gave us in the last update is correct and not misleading us on purpose, then the non consensual sex theory seems a tad strange.

Code:
Elektra : "Your mother was as vicious as they came."
Elektra : "Some would even say she was a morally bankrupt person."
Elektra : "Rina was engaged to another of the Serpents, one named Dante."
Elektra : "But he died when she betrayed the Family."
Elektra : "She was exiled. Not just exiled from the DeLuca Family, but from the entire underworld."
I don't even wanna know, what counts as so egregious in that fucked up world, that one gets exiled from the entire underworld, but it at least sounded like it's a very rare occurence and the setup makes it sound like no normal person could ever guess what it was because it's completely off the scale fucked up.

Like even cheating on a Don/Donna or rape probably isn't something that concerns the Pacificatoris and would've rather been handled internally.

However I agree with you that Cordia being so invested in the MC is very odd and with our current level of knowledge even crazy. She is putting her entire family at risk, by not just throwing the MC into a cell and throwing the key away, against the advice of Wilfred. And all we know is that she never met him and that she isn't blood related to him, so it stands to reason that it must be something HUGE, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

When Wilfred catches the "Gracie-Gang" after their kidnapping mission, he says to the MC :

"You may get away with a failure from this, due to your position in the Family."

What position ??? He's a Soldato ! Like the hints keep piling up, but it's never enough to tie it all together.

Let's all just agree, that the game and most of all Hope are infuriating and should not be consumed or talked to, unless being completely hammered !!! (y)
Well I'll be damned. I forgot about that Elektra bit. That does make my theory not only just further off the beaten track, but out right to la la land, doesn't it?

I blame this on Hopes not finish with the next release already! :p And if that flew right over your head, I'd like to state for the record that I have never and still do not mind the wait. I'd genuinely like Hopes to take his sweet time to get it right instead of rushing it.
 
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