Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[TimHawk]

Why are other crime families required to follow the decrees of cordia? Pretty sure her decrees only bind delucas and not the criminal underworld as a whole.

You must've misread my statement.

 

[Rome5555555]

Good game!

 

[TimHawk]

To be fair, he said the exile was put in place by the Pacificatoris, not Cordia.

I still don't see why someone being exiled means someone who's not exiled can't have anything to do with them.
DeLucas were monitoring her & her child for years. If they were allowed to do that, I see nothing that precludes a made man from living with her.
She's exiled, so she can't enter their world, or have anything to do with their business.
That's all it means.
Living with a made man doesn't seem to contravene that, as long as he doesn't talk shop.

What spawned all of this was the information we got from Elektra, she said :

Elektra : "What I do know, is that she was exiled. Not just exiled from the DeLuca Family, but from the entire underworld."
Elektra : "She wasn't allowed to get close to anyone, and no one was allowed to get close to her either."

Which led me to my statement, that whoever lived with them, couldn't have been part of the underworld. As I understand it, that's is exactly why they only watched the MC from a distance and did not interact with him or train him, it would probably have broken the rules.

I also said that leaves us with two options, the man who lived with them was either not the MC's father, or he wasn't a serpent/part of the underworld.

Now there is obviously more to consider. Both the MC during the intro and Steadfast when talking to the MC state that the MC is under the contract because of the crimes commited by his parents, not just mother.

So maybe the MC's parents were judged on commiting different severities of the crime, with his father only having to serve a specific timeframe and as soon as that was up, he left the MC and Rina, returned to the underworld and rebuild his career, where as Rina is exiled for life.

Now to be clear, I still prefer the whole Antonio is the MC's brother theory over this one, but since Hope considered it so important to add the part about Rina's exile to the first season, we have to keep our minds open that other theories may also be plausible.

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

Seriously man fuck the Devs I haven't cried for a VN since One Last Salty kiss, but the part where Luna tells the MC about Sofia and all the events that went down when she was held captive was just too heart wrenching. So fuck the devs for thatExcellent story telling but i don't cry man!! Yall made me cry!!

 

[TimHawk]

Seriously man fuck the Devs I haven't cried for a VN since One Last Salty kiss, but the part where Luna tells the MC about Sofia and all the events that went down when she was held captive was just too heart wrenching. So fuck the devs for thatExcellent story telling but i don't cry man!! Yall made me cry!!

I don't know if it's any comfort, but its only one dev, and YES we all hate him too !!!

 

[imadumb]

Hey guys, good day everyone, since i lost my pc i lost all my saves, so, i would know if we have new content after "the bullet" if u guys know what i mean, if yes, i'll try to save a day for read this novel again <3 if no, i will wait a little more <3

 

[imadumb]

Seriously man fuck the Devs I haven't cried for a VN since One Last Salty kiss, but the part where Luna tells the MC about Sofia and all the events that went down when she was held captive was just too heart wrenching. So fuck the devs for thatExcellent story telling but i don't cry man!! Yall made me cry!!

when i first saw this, i cried the entire dawn, i was like, 3 am crying, and stoped onlly after the morning when i fell aslep

 

[Doomyk]

Where can i read Q&A session?

 

[TimHawk]

Where can i read Q&A session?

Hope periodically has one Q&A session before/after each update right here in this thread.

Just search posts made by HopesGaming and you'll find them.

 

[c3p0]

Hope periodically has one Q&A session before/after each update right here in this thread.

Just search posts made by HopesGaming and you'll find them.

Or search for JJJ's.

 

[Cartageno]

Or search for JJJ's.

That's a "Q&Q - oh, and another Q" session.

 

[TimHawk]

That's a "Q&Q - oh, and another Q" session.

Son of a Don is immune to the Jedi Mindtrick too..lets all pool some dough and send the Serpent after him, that'll teach him !

 

[Paco Loco]

That's a "Q&Q - oh, and another Q" session.

Or another 21 Q!

 

[whichone]

So maybe the MC's parents were judged on commiting different severities of the crime, with his father only having to serve a specific timeframe and as soon as that was up, he left the MC and Rina, returned to the underworld and rebuild his career, where as Rina is exiled for life.

Rina betraying her Family is clearly gonna be a major thing. Not many other Families are going to want someone who has history of betraying them.
No-one's ever going to trust her.
That type of betrayal seems more like a betrayal of La Cosa Nostra, as a whole.
Hence Pacificatori involvement.

If burned out Serpent betrayed Cordia on a personal level, by cheating on her with Rina, other Families are not going to give a fuck & happily take a highly skilled Serpent into their ranks.
As that's not a betrayal of their business, or way of life, I would not expect that to require Pacificatori.
It's personal betrayal, not business.

Maybe it's as simple as that, entirely different crimes, entirely different punishments?

IDK, we'll find out one day...

 

[TimHawk]

Don't forget, Giocabbe's conversation with Cordia, where he apologised for not backing her up "when the other Serpents betrayed her".
Serpents, plural.

Now, Rina betraying her Family is clearly gonna be a major thing. Not many other Families are going to want someone who has history of betraying them.
If burned out Serpent betrayed Cordia on a personal level, by cheating on her with Rina, other Families are not going to give a fuck & happily take him.

I very much agree. I find myself shifting back and forth between the MC's father being the 4th serpent or not.

There are some things that just make me feel iffy either way, like Trino gets a bullet to the head right there and then and that's for relaying a location. And yet both the MC's father and mother are still alive and kicking.

From what we've been told, they must have done something so out of the world fucked up, that they were not just exiled, the DeLuca's and Pacifactories conspired to keep it a secret and forged documents and shit, like how the fuck are they still alive ?

And what bothers me the most is, that people regard Rina with compassion and they all hate the MC's father. I sometimes just can't believe that cheating would do it, although Antonio being the MC's half brother would be amazing.

And then there is the conversation with the Serpent, where he says :

Serpent : "MC, do not become too saddened when you hear the reason. Our world is a tough one."

That just doesn't sound like someone cheated on Cordia too me, it sounds more like they tried to over throw her or some shit. Like why would the MC be sad if his father cheated on his girlfriend with his mother ?

Many riddles to solve brother, but I'm hopeful that Season 2 will shine some light on some of those mysterys

 

[whichone]

I very much agree. I find myself shifting back and forth between the MC's father being the 4th serpent or not.

There are some things that just make me feel iffy either way, like Trino gets a bullet to the head right there and then and that's for relaying a location. And yet both the MC's father and mother are still alive and kicking.

From what we've been told, they must have done something so out of the world fucked up, that they were not just exiled, the DeLuca's and Pacifactories conspired to keep it a secret and forged documents and shit, like how the fuck are they still alive ?

And what bothers me the most is, that people regard Rina with compassion and they all hate the MC's father. I sometimes just can't believe that cheating would do it, although Antonio being the MC's half brother would be amazing.

And then there is the conversation with the Serpent, where he says :

Serpent : "MC, do not become too saddened when you hear the reason. Our world is a tough one."

That just doesn't sound like someone cheated on Cordia too me, it sounds more like they tried to over throw her or some shit. Like why would the MC be sad if his father cheated on his girlfriend with his mother ?

Many riddles to solve brother, but I'm hopeful that Season 2 will shine some light on some of those mysterys

Hey!! Stop finding\opening new cans of worms man, we've got enough to consider!!
*kidding, it's what makes discussions interesting.

But, if any theory doesn't stand up under scrutiny, then it's not plausible.
The "MC's Father is burned out Serpent"\"Antonio is MC's half-brother" theories do not currently have any solid, indisputable evidence which disproves them.
So, until it is proven that it cannot be, it can be.

The one thing that sticks with me, is the Antonio half-brother thing.
They blatantly say that Antonio "gets his rage from his Father", yet when we see Luna & Gracie as children, their Father doesn't display any rage, at all, during the most distressing moment of his life\death.
Admittedly, that doesn't say anything about him sharing a Father with MC, but it strongly suggests that he does not have the same Father as the girls.

And what bothers me the most is, that people regard Rina with compassion and they all hate the MC's father. I sometimes just can't believe that cheating would do it, although Antonio being the MC's half brother would be amazing.

I have a suggestion for that:
If MC's Father manipulated her into whatever she did, they all know he's behind it, yet she took the fall for it.
So you can kind of see why they might pity her & have strong dislike for him.
In fact, their pity for her could, quite feasibly, make their dislike for him stronger.

 

[TimHawk]

Hey!! Stop finding\opening new cans of worms man, we've got enough to consider!!
*kidding, it's what makes discussions interesting.

But, if any theory doesn't stand up under scrutiny, then it's not plausible.
The "MC's Father is burned out Serpent"\"Antonio is MC's half-brother" theories do not currently have any solid, indisputable evidence which disproves them.
So, until it is proven that it cannot be, it can be.

The one thing that sticks with me, is the Antonio half-brother thing.
They blatantly say that Antonio "gets his rage from his Father", yet when we see Luna & Gracie as children, their Father doesn't display any rage, at all, during the most distressing moment of his life\death.
That strongly suggests that they do not have the same Father.

Absolutely on the Antonio thing and there is way more if one really looks for it.

When Cordia meets the MC for the first time in her office she says something along the lines "Thoughts and questions racing in the head but the lips don't move, very much like your father." Which is the stark opposite of Luna and Gracie, but a lot like Antonio, he has issues with his temper, but is usually very laid back and observing and generally a man of few words.

And as we all know, the MC is the textbook version of laying back, observing and then striking once his brain has done it's homework.

Many things connect Antonio with he MC, looks, character, behaviour, so it would take some real rocksolid proof for me too, to give up on that one.

And let's be real there no neccessary need for cheating for the MC's dad to knock up Cordia, there is quite the age difference between them, so we could be 100% right even without the cheating theory.

 

[whichone]

And let's be real there no neccessary need for cheating for the MC's dad to knock up Cordia, there is quite the age difference between them, so we could be 100% right even without the cheating theory.

Absolutely! I'd consider Antonio to be circa 8-10 years older than MC.
Maybe that's his betrayal - he knocked Cordia up then broke up with her & subsequently fucked off with Rina...
As you say, doesn't need any cheating involved, given the timescale.

But, it's the burned out photo that adds weight to the cheating idea. As I say, burning someone out of a photo is a strong emotional response, presumably to being hurt.
I don't know if dumping her while she's pregnant is as painful as cheating on her, with her friend.
I'm not sure which would be more likely to provoke her (ice cool Cordia, The Blizzard Queen) to burn an ex out of a photo.

The timescale does throw things out, a little, though.
Makes me wonder if Cordia was actually pregnant (very early) with Antonio, during the war?
If he was born a few years after, then this whole thing falls down, because Rina & burned out Serpent are (presumably) long gone, by that point.

*edit: OK, so Antonio was initially marked as being 30. Luna 19 & Gracie 18.
AFAIK, MC is same age as the girls. So Antonio is officially 11\12 years older than MC.

Hey guys, good day everyone, since i lost my pc i lost all my saves, so, i would know if we have new content after "the bullet" if u guys know what i mean, if yes, i'll try to save a day for read this novel again <3 if no, i will wait a little more <3

The bullet scene was 0.09.0. That release was the 1st part of the end of Season 1.
0.09.5 contained the rest of the end of Season 1. So, yes, there is more content now.
If you want to quickly get the end of 0.09.0, hold Ctrl down and you'll skip through pretty quickly.
It will stop when you have choices to make.

 

[TimHawk]

Absolutely! I'd consider Antonio to be circa 8-10 years older than MC.
Maybe that's his betrayal - he knocked Cordia up then broke up with her & subsequently fucked off with Rina...
As you say, doesn't need any cheating involved, given the timescale.

But, it's the burned out photo that adds weight to the cheating idea. As I say, burning someone out of a photo is a strong emotional response, presumably to being hurt.
I don't know if dumping her while she's pregnant is as painful as cheating on her, with her friend.
I'm not sure which would be more likely to provoke her (ice cool Cordia, The Blizzard Queen) to burn an ex out of a photo.

The timescale does throw things out, a little, though.
Makes me wonder if Cordia was actually pregnant (very early) with Antonio, during the war?
If he was born a few years after, then this whole thing falls down, because Rina & burned out Serpent are (presumably) long gone, by that point.

*edit: OK, so Antonio was initially marked as being 30. Luna 19 & Gracie 18.
AFAIK, MC is same age as the girls. So Antonio is officially 11\12 years older than MC.

Yea that's quite the gap. We all jumped on the cheating train because well ... "a woman scorned" and I think it was perfectly valid at the time, we didn't have the information from Elektra yet, but if we take another look at her description of Rina :

Elektra : "Your mother was as vicious as they came."
Elektra : "Some would even say she was a morally bankrupt person."
Elektra : "Once she had her sights on someone, they'd die in the most horrific way. She colored everything in her path red."
Elektra : "She also didn't care who was in her way. Be it innocent civilians, or young ones."

I don't know about you, but if I read just that in a vacuum, the first word that automatically pops into my mind is : Psychopath.

Maybe she was the one who got greedy for power, maybe she seduced the MC's father away from Cordia with promises of "We will obliterate the Big 5 and then share the Kingdom as King and Queen." And to celebrate their quest for power they had a quick roll in the hay, which resulted in the MC.

They came close to succeeding and to protect the way of the Big 5, the Deluca's and Pacifactories conspired together to keep the truth from becoming public knowledge, as the success Rina and the MC's father had, might have inspired others to try the same.

IF the current Don of the Silverinos IS the MC's dad, then he would basically be trying to get a 2nd shot at it, by forming "the alliance". When Quinzio and Nero approached Nazazi, they said :

Nazazi : "Your guy's little uprising is still in the recruitment phase, I see."
Quinzio : "A temporary loss of customers for the chance to change a rotten system? It is well known that the Ombra Family aren't too happy with the current state of things. I don't understand your hesitation."

I mean ... that could mean that they prepare for a big war against the tradition of the Big 5, which could be a do over of what Rina and the MC's father tried to do once before.

In that way the punishment for the MC's father, living with the MC and Rina for a certain time, would also make perfect sense, as in "You joined her quest, now you will live with her!!!"

Also I just found this : Quinzio : "Seems like they're rather protective of the fellow. They even have secret guards following him." Maybe Cordia isn't as careless as I thought after all Damnit, that totally slipped past me

 

[whichone]

When you chat to Bikini Girl\Elektra, it says "Codex updated" after she gives you the info.
Does anyone know where the "codex" is?
Is it implemented, yet?

We've met Amita & Amata in 1 contract + 1 main mission, even got head off one of them before the mission.
Weird that they talk like they don't know me & are meeting me for the first time, when exploring Lucania.

Also, weird that the game called me "Peter", during exploring Lucania.
I don't know how difficult it is to pick up the user's chosen name, but there it is.

Even more weird, is finding Gracie in the living room, in the evening, do her dancing.
Would've thought she'd struggle to dance, with a bullet in her!
Mind you, she seems pretty relaxed in the bath, in the morning.
Surely these should've been taken out of the daily sequences, after what happened in 09.5.

*Edit, just seen codex is coming in Season 2, after the new combat system is introduced.
So, as it stands, I need to wait about another year to see what info she gave me. lol
Not sure my memory's up to that.
Still, seems rather odd to point users to something which does not yet exist in the game.

HopesGaming might be some continuity errors above mate.