I just replayed Deluca from the beginning, and the game mode without contracts is essentially a VN mode already
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After replaying the game, my opinion is that the 4th serpent isn't the father. I will detail my thoughts.I very much agree. I find myself shifting back and forth between the MC's father being the 4th serpent or not.
There are some things that just make me feel iffy either way, like Trino gets a bullet to the head right there and then and that's for relaying a location. And yet both the MC's father and mother are still alive and kicking.
From what we've been told, they must have done something so out of the world fucked up, that they were not just exiled, the DeLuca's and Pacifactories conspired to keep it a secret and forged documents and shit, like how the fuck are they still alive ?
And what bothers me the most is, that people regard Rina with compassion and they all hate the MC's father. I sometimes just can't believe that cheating would do it, although Antonio being the MC's half brother would be amazing.
If everyone from the Deluca family hate the father, it could be because he is the Silverino Don (Nero also ressembles MC quite a lot). Since this Silverino family is depicted as manipulative and conspiring, they could have had a big plan to merge one of the strongest family (Deluca) with them by having a heir from both family. Quinzio states that MC has a role from Silverino family, which would be this one.
Rina would have been the "true" heir of DeLuca Family (or at least a candidate), giving the MC the possible right to reign over 2 big families. Silverino would absorb Deluca and grow their power and influence by a big margin without having to start a war.
Other families would have heard of this plan and of the child (MC) and decided to eliminate him to prevent this merger that would break the balance and Rina's pregnancy with an enemy don would have been seen as a betrayal from Deluca family. With assassins sent on her tracks by other families and no support from Deluca's Family because of her betrayal, she would have killed lots of people, including big shots from different families, explaining her exile from the underworld.
Before leaving peacefully without more blood spilled, she would have signed a contract with Pacificatori and Deluca and Silverino to ensure her and her child (MC) safety by saying that her child would go back to the Deluca Family and be protected by Silverino from afar after a certain age. Being one of Deluca's potential heirs, it explains him being in the mansion, wilfred speaking to him like a core family member and protected from afar all his life. His mother would have been harsh on MC to prepare for mafia world to ensure his survival in this world.
This would also explain why DeLuca watch MC from a long time and why Wilfred kind of gives vibes of wanting to see how MC grows as a leader and potential future Don. Wilfred is very cunning and plans on very long-term. By using MC he could make the Deluca Family grows at the top, explaining also why he lets MC be close to the sisters, to make MC fond of Deluca's side and not his father side (Silverino).
Concerning future events, MC already has a team of competent people around him and this team could have some logic. I had this thought on the Fawkes kidnap mission after saving him from the car where you get to chose a line to tell him he is a nice guy. MC's position and the others around him gave me this birth of a "new family" vibe. He could create his own group which would be Deluca based but with addition :
Leader : MC
Consigliere : Gracie (Top strategist like Wilfred with good physical potential)
Serpents level : Luna (being Luna
), Fawkes (potential since MC seems to have gain his respect), maybe others in the futureAssassin unit Capo : Eiza (good potential if well trained)
Stealth Unit Capo : Joey (in stealth unit)
Intel unit Capo : Siobhan
She is a potential ally since from Story 11, we see that she respects MC and MC probably triggered her will to become next Ombra's heir to change her family and not just suffer the situation from their discussion during the warehouse attack. She also states that she wants to reform the Ombra's family and have principles which MC have also shown (not using any relatives or innocent people...) and since Efrem's code live within Eiza and that MC is Eiza's boss... It is possible she would also become an antagonist but it is 90% chance to become an ally in my opinion.
MC also has Elektra's support that could become interesting in the future inside the Family. He also seems well appreciated from support people like Gina, Bianca who seems friendly.
I saw comments saying that Gracie would become heir with MC as consigliere but I think he has more the Don type of approach than Gracie. He reads very well people which is Gracie's weakness.
In my opinion, it wouldn't be a coup d'etat in Deluca's Family but a generational change. Antonio doesn't seem fit to be next Don, he undeniably has potential to be the 3rd man of the family but lacks the strategic and cunning side to be a successful don of the family. Cordia would give him the Don position and retire from the first plan.
Thank you for your answers on my ideas
I was saying that currently, I don't see him fit for N°1 position. 2-3 is a good fit, which he currently is and seems to do a good job at this position.
For the Don succession, I think Dons have a leniency to chose someone other than the first born. I mean, if not that, Siobhan wouldn't say that she will fight to be the next Donna. She could just wait to become the next one since she is first born of Nazazi but she states that she will fight for it. So there is a possibility of having some leniency on the next Don choice.
My point is did Cordia become the leader before or after Antonio's birth ? This was never precisely said and could be an interesting chronology point. It is said that she took the leader position years ago (Giacobbe/Nasazi stated that) but not 3-4 decades ago. So the possibility of Cordia becoming leader after Antonio's birth is quite strong in my opinion, hence her taking the leadership after Rina's betrayal with her pregnancy with Silverino's current Don.
I understand. My point was that he is starting to get support from all parts and levels of the big family. He has support from some men/women of the core family, of the special units, and with elektra's future branch from the outskirts of the family. He kind of grow his web step by step.
In Gildart's flashback during the ombra mission where Wilfred and his unit were watching MC from afar, Gildart ask Wilfred if he should intervene. So is it a small hint of an observation/protection ? I saw it that way.
I am not saying he hasn't any Don like skills but I was saying that his short-temper, his sloppiness agains smaller enemies isn't fit of the next Don. Maybe he has time to learn etc...
I was saying that currently, I don't see him fit for N°1 position. 2-3 is a good fit, which he currently is and seems to do a good job at this position.
For the Don succession, I think Dons have a leniency to chose someone other than the first born. I mean, if not that, Siobhan wouldn't say that she will fight to be the next Donna. She could just wait to become the next one since she is first born of Nazazi but she states that she will fight for it. So there is a possibility of having some leniency on the next Don choice.
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I think,that Rina's exile was for specific actions.Don't look for the worst crimes.As we know,Pervez successfully cosplays red wedding with the manners of Hannibal Lecter.Yes, it’s hard for him to look for allies, but no one expelled him.
And the fact that Cordia remembers her contrary to other rumors does not contradict. There is a parallel with the Luna. Most people call her crazy,maniac, but we can see other sides of her, right?
And the fact that Cordia remembers her contrary to other rumors does not contradict. There is a parallel with the Luna. Most people call her crazy,maniac, but we can see other sides of her, right?
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I think Grace will be the MC nemesis. They show how the two are two sides of the same coin, with different philosophies and approaches. Wilfred even said how great it would be the two of them working together with their full potential. One is the thesis, the other the antithesis and the synthesis is the conflict between the two of them. She even says she'll kill the MC if he tries to hurt anybody. I may be over overanalyzing things, but I think this could be foreshadowing.
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She says she'll kill anybody trying to hurt the MC, that's quite the difference there, mate.
- Jan 23, 2018
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No, she especifically threatened the MC in the warehouse quest, when she discovers his plan, you even have the option to say something like "I don't like to be threatened".She says she'll kill anybody trying to hurt the MC, that's quite the difference there, mate.
- Dec 24, 2018
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It feels like you're taking that small part of that one scene a bit too literally.
Sure, MC says to her "Don't threaten me" but she immediately says to him it's a joke.
And when MC is none too pleased with it, this was her reaction:
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After seeing that, you still think she's gonna be a nemesis to MC?
Not to mention there were whole bunch of Gracie-centric events which got added with v0.08 that further emphasizes her role as one of the main LIs; which I'm guessing you haven't gone through yet.
And while there is no rule saying LIs can't be nemesis, there is no proof until now in that Gracie will become a nemesis (only thing I'd say Gracie is guilty of in that event above is how terrible her sense of humor is lol)
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Did you check the next 10 renders or did you quit the game there ?
Because if you do, not only will you see that she was "kidding", but you will also see :
Gracie : "You're precious to me! I would never ever do anything to hurt you!"
Gracie : "I would hurt people who would hurt you, you're my number one!"
I really don't think that scene qualifies as one of the top 100 confusing scenes in this mindfuck of a game.
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- Jan 23, 2018
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She's displayed as cunning and lies in almost all her missions to get things done her way. By the way, the game constantly change tones from danger to jokes. So you can't interpret what the characters say literally. All I'm saying is that she's giving some redflags, we can't say that author didn't warn us If something happens.
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It's the MC that is cunning and manipulating, where as Gracie is obsessively strategic and a sociopath. You can't confuse the inability to feel normal social and emotional instincts and attachments as a choice, that's who she is at her core. And you gotta give her credit, she is working on it.
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Last I checked, it was an Adult Visual Novel. Not enough sex to be a mere "Porn Game."
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imho i do find grace to be someone who'll definitely cause us grave nuisance later on. i cannot comment on how antagonistic she'll turn out to be, eventually. but in my head cannon, she's the antagonist.
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When is the next update scheduled? While I love all the chicks, Siobhan is the most stylist one and I would like to see her in action..............
Maybe she can have a phase where she'll be a bit a of nuisance, especially after being shot, but she won't be an antagonist, especially the main one. For that she would have to go head to head with Luna & MC which is impossible for her in my opinion. She loves too much her daughter/family to do that.
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every time i use load, i go back to the freeroaming lucania, and i lose my save point.
does anyone know, how i can my save files back?
does anyone know, how i can my save files back?
Hello!I've been stuck here.Is the game left unfinished in this spot or am I doing something wrong?Because I have like the dance with Gracie unlocked and bought 2 times wine for Isabel. But I whatever the time is the game does not have available these 2 options.