Dessolos

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I have to say though the contract thing is kind of strange. In Jersey if you have a contract on you then you better run and hide.
i'm sure there is hit contracts in this game's world as well. But if I recall correctly the contracts usually more or less a contract of servitude in most cases in this game.
 
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Ooo I got another one! He's in this situation because of a contract. Maybe the contract/agreement is on one of the DeLuca family to take care of him! So they brought him to the estate for safety reasons! Maybe a rival crew put out a contract on him but they promised your father they'd always take care of you.
Precisely my point.
It's not exactly a leap to presume that the head of the crime family holding\honouring the contract would know what the contract is & why he's there.
Yet you somehow think he's a derp, for doing exactly that.
 
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When is the new update rollin in f95 been waiting for so long . This one is one of my favourite and it taking forever . And i hope hopesgaming would do s2 faster since he is more dedicated into this project .
 

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When is the new update rollin in f95 been waiting for so long . This one is one of my favourite and it taking forever . And i hope hopesgaming would do s2 faster since he is more dedicated into this project .
I think he is only been dedicated to S2 full time for a month and before was mostly steam so probably be a bit. Unless you are talking about the steam update then my bad
 

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Pawning sons is an important part of ancient world history. It was especially common in the kingdoms. These contracts were made for many reasons, the most common being to enforce loyalty by pledging one or more sons as hostages, or as a sign of trust. Sometimes it was also done to unite two families, e.g. an alliance for the purpose of marriage, etc. One of the best examples is Vlad Dracula and his brother Radu, princes of Wallachia, who were pledged to the Ottoman Empire. These two brothers received the same education and care as the Ottoman princes. As an adult Vlad fought against the Ottomans, while his brother Radu fought against his brother as a valuable friend and general for the Ottoman Sultan. I know that such contracts are still made in the mafia world.
 

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When is the new update rollin in f95 been waiting for so long . This one is one of my favourite and it taking forever . And i hope hopesgaming would do s2 faster since he is more dedicated into this project .
When someone leaks it here, the same as always Pinky.
 
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One of the best examples is Vlad Dracula and his brother Radu, princes of Wallachia, who were pledged to the Ottoman Empire.
Another good example is Arminius. Born son of the German Cherusci tribe's chief. Taken as a boy by the Romans, as part of a deal for peace.
Subsequently led the Cherusci in one of the Roman Empire's most notorious defeats, in the Battle of the Teutogburg Forest.
 

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Another good example is Arminius. Born son of the German Cherusci tribe's chief. Taken as a boy by the Romans, as part of a deal for peace.
Subsequently led the Cherusci in one of the Roman Empire's most notorious defeats, in the Battle of the Teutogburg Forest.
Exactly, this is a good example from history. In the game, the probable reason for the hostage of the MC is the dispute between the two families. The actual use of this contractual hostage means "If you betray me, your son will die In fact, that's why when mc's friend finds out about this, he threatens the Deluca family "if he gets hurt" because this is the first thought that comes to his mind. But I think it's the other way round, if Mrs DeLuca knows her son's sexual preference, she knows that he can't run the family because such a situation would have serious consequences in the criminal world. Maybe the condition of the deal is a marriage and heirship.
 
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Exactly, this is a good example from history. In the game, the probable reason for the hostage of the MC is the dispute between the two families. The actual use of this contractual hostage means "If you betray me, your son will die In fact, that's why when mc's friend finds out about this, he threatens the Deluca family "if he gets hurt" because this is the first thought that comes to his mind. But I think it's the other way round, if Mrs DeLuca knows her son's sexual preference, she knows that he can't run the family because such a situation would have serious consequences in the criminal world. Maybe the condition of the deal is a marriage and heirship.
Certainly plausible. But they've been watching the MC since he was a little child. I don't know if Antonio's sexuality would have been known, at that time, if the contract was already in place when they were watching him in the playground.

I think the contract has something to do with MC's Mother.
We know she was one of the original Serpents, with Cordia.
I think the backstory of MC being poisoned as a child, by his Mother, suggests that she was pretty unstable (despite it later saving his life) & might well have led Cordia to take her old friend's son for protection.
 
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Certainly plausible. But they've been watching the MC since he was a little child. I don't know if Antonio's sexuality would have been known, at that time, if the contract was already in place when they were watching him in the playground.

I think the contract has something to do with MC's Mother.
We know she was one of the original Serpents, with Cordia.
I think the backstory of MC being poisoned as a child, by his Mother, suggests that she was pretty unstable (despite it later saving his life) & might well have led Cordia to take her old friend's son for protection.
I don't know. I always got the sense she thought she was doing what was best for him and I thought it was because of the contract. Like she thought he'd be better off dead than joining the DeLuca family.
 

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I don't know. I always got the sense she thought she was doing what was best for him and I thought it was because of the contract. Like she thought he'd be better off dead than joining the DeLuca family.
What, you think the reason Rina poisoned MC was because of the contract? That would mean the contract has existed for a loooong time. :unsure:
IDK about that. There is nothing I can think of in the game that suggests Rina specifically disliked Cordia, or the Family, to provoke that level of reaction.
Why should she have such an aversion to her son joining them?
More importantly, where did the contract come from & why would she agree to it, if she thought poisoning him was a better option than having him join them?

Her doing that subsequently saved his life.
Who's to know if his Mother was actually preparing him for the harsh realities of the mafia life, or if she had gone a bit mental.
We already know she was a little unhinged when she was a Serpent, so I'm not sure of her capacity to adjust well, once she left that life.
 
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This is factually incorrect.
It did not lead "to the betrayal of two of the Serpents, one of whom was her fiance".
Her fiance & Rina - the two Serpents - who betrayed them?
They betrayed Cordia, so it led to betrayal by those two Serpents.

It references things we have no idea about, spends 2-3 pages talking about redundant families that no longer exist that are not mentioned in the game.
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What "conflict with her own sister"? If you're going to reference it, tell us about it.
Up until that sentence, I don't remember ever hearing about Cordia even having a Sister, never mind them having some form of conflict.
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If this "Battle of The Blood" is so "notorious", why is it not mentioned in the "History" section, with the other 2 major battles?
Same as the conflict with her sister, if you're going to mention it, tell us what it is.

It misses key information on crucial main characters, such as Cordia having a son!! It mentions her having two daughters, but Antonio is completely absent. He is next in line, yet he is not mentioned once, on the "DeLuca Family" page.

Worst thing, is that it's just a massive info dump & lots of it is currently irrelevant, or redundant.
Pages on Families we've not even heard of, never mind met. Also pages on Families that no longer even exist.
It would be much better if it unlocked the codex entries when we meet, or hear about, corresponding information.
e.g. We meet someone from La Fata family, or we hear them mentioned - codex for La Fata unlocks. Maybe the "C" could light up, to let us know.
 
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