HornyyPussy

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idk I think the renders looks fine as they are. Could they be better yes but they aren't that bad at all they aged fine to me. Ive seen much worst. I think they are still are above average looking in my opinion. Besides who is to say they don't improve in S2
Yeah, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the render quality of this VN. seems like some people have a innate need to complain and just jump on anything. I will never understand why someone comes to a forum just to complain about free stuff....

And as JJJ said, nothing about this release comes as a surprise, we knew exactly what it would contain since months back
 
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Updated it for 0.09

- Game Version : 0.09.0
- Mod Version : 0.09.0b

Features:

Unlocked Gallery
• Money Cheat
• Skill Cheat
• Love Cheat
• Rename Mc


ps: not mine you can all thank BrandyYT for the original, i just updated it

edit: no need for update replay gallery still the same
edit2: when some1 uploads steam version will take a look if gallery needs updating
The version uploaded is the steam version (not sure of all of them but the gofile link is unless it was mislabeled)
And the gallery is broken when using the mod
 

Niccolado

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Well, this definitely DIDN'T age well.

Last time I played - 4 years ago? - I thought it was just pointless crap. Now it looks like an outdated fossil.
I do not understand. Why do you care so much about a game you really hate that you find its forum and spend time and energy to trash it? I on the otherhand found this thread because I love the game. Hate it? Go somewhere else!
 

Cartageno

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Yeah, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the render quality of this VN. seems like some people have a innate need to complain and just jump on anything. I will never understand why someone comes to a forum just to complain about free stuff....
"Graphic quality" is an often heard complaint in other (non adult) games as well, often for some technical aspects which don't even affect the feel, and apparently none of the professional critics noticed, so I am not too surprised to find it here, too.

That being said (a) the graphics are fine, and (b) at least to me the graphics are supporting the story, not the main aspect of it, so as long as they work and transport what should be transported, I couldn't care less (within limits of course. Doesn't need to be Oblivion level or suchlike).
 

c3p0

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I do not understand. Why do you care so much about a game you really hate that you find its forum and spend time and energy to trash it? I on the otherhand found this thread because I love the game. Hate it? Go somewhere else!
Your guess is as good as mine. Mine is they want to stir it up, try to get respond and people losing their shit, possible cause they are butthurt, cause their favourite char didn't get an update, doesn't look like they wanted, can't be fucked or is fucked by another NPC, the updates are too few, too small, ...
But at the end of the day I couldn't care less why they try to stir it up, only that they try.
 
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ArtKing22

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btw on the VN Mode when i press (Hug) Luna and (Could i have Something to eat?) Isabel, it starts the Freeroam mode.

just wanted to Point it out in case its a bug that needs Fixing.
 
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Also, I think I've been saying since late 2023 that Season 1 Soldato Edition on Steam will not be adding new story content, and will just be adding VN mode, Codex, & updated gallery; I knew about it in advance given I playtested the VN mode for Hopes.
Yeah. I like how the so called supporter is acting like they had no idea what was coming. He's been keeping us thread regulars(us pirates) in the loop and we knew for months what to expect from the season 1 release. No way he wasn't telling his supporters. What a fine way to out yourself as a lying troll pretending to be a supporter to somehow add credence to one's trolling.
 
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"Graphic quality" is an often heard complaint in other (non adult) games as well, often for some technical aspects which don't even affect the feel, and apparently none of the professional critics noticed, so I am not too surprised to find it here, too.

That being said (a) the graphics are fine, and (b) at least to me the graphics are supporting the story, not the main aspect of it, so as long as they work and transport what should be transported, I couldn't care less (within limits of course. Doesn't need to be Oblivion level or suchlike).
My roommate has walked in while I was playing the game and commented on how realistic the graphics look in some of these games I play(I have my computer hooked up to my television). So any complaints about the rendering are complete bullshit.
 

Cartageno

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My roommate has walked in while I was playing the game and commented on how realistic the graphics look in some of these games I play(I have my computer hooked up to my television). So any complaints about the rendering are complete bullshit.
Well, to play devil's advocate - it depends on what you are used to. When I mentioned Oblivion earlier as a step down too far - back in the day, while not being the best looking game by a mile, it still was very presentable.

However, if you play more modern games like, say, Cyberpunk, Daz3D isn't that good anymore. However, in these games heads rarely change size and shape like they used to do in CP ;)

Though I would want to challenge them when comparing Daz3D graphics from different years to put them in the correct order. I somehow doubt anybody really could ...
 

Dessolos

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wow is back so long time i dont see any new about this game xD
you are probably unaware then but this update came out in February it's just the steam update nothing new storywise unless you count codex / lore entries. But it's a good thing cause it means S2 is in full swing full time for Hope
 

vks017

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"Graphic quality" is an often heard complaint in other (non adult) games as well, often for some technical aspects which don't even affect the feel, and apparently none of the professional critics noticed, so I am not too surprised to find it here, too.

That being said (a) the graphics are fine, and (b) at least to me the graphics are supporting the story, not the main aspect of it, so as long as they work and transport what should be transported, I couldn't care less (within limits of course. Doesn't need to be Oblivion level or suchlike).
This is one of the downsides to a very long dev cycle though.

A game can start of as class leading in various aspects; graphics, story, gameplay etc. But when it actually gets to a full release its peers have overtaken it in some or many aspects.

This game had outstanding renders at the start of its development and its something that even Summers gone will face if it continues its drawn out cycle.
Games with more stylized rather than cutting edge graphics are more immune to this.
 

Tokenugget

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Only person who can properly answer that is Hopes, but if you ask me I don't think it was his intention to exclude that event on purpose.

Full Experience is the whole package, which includes everything.
Just Story & VN modes are modes with certain features from Full Experiences mode removed like gameplay etc.
My guess is, given that Shiobhan event is still more in terms of gameplay-like section (with Contracts screen etc), it may have been something inadvertently removed along with non-essential contracts text stuff.

Luckily I noticed its removal and pointed out the whole importance of continuity with the latter Cogwheel event and that Ombra mission, which he agreed.
And the rest is history, with that event making it into both Just Story & VN modes. :WeSmart:
Well i just finished the VN mode... as for sticking up for important scenes...

Could you put a good word in to Hopes for the Wilfred scene after Gracies "Failed" mission. :ROFLMAO: The MC had a good conversation with Wilfred about what he did wrong but instead it skips it and goes right to Luna telling the MC that Gracie thinks the MC "hates her".
 

JJJ84

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Well i just finished the VN mode... as for sticking up for important scenes...

Could you put a good word in to Hopes for the Wilfred scene after Gracies "Failed" mission. :ROFLMAO: The MC had a good conversation with Wilfred about what he did wrong but instead it skips it and goes right to Luna telling the MC that Gracie thinks the MC "hates her".
Are you referring to this scene here (I have a habit of making really frequent saves for my games, so renpy folder is pretty fat lol)?
It's from the save I made with the Full Experience mode.

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Huh, I must have missed it cause I speedran the playtest with ctrl fast skip (even with that, Eiza one was really noticeable, guess this one isn't unless one takes time reading :HideThePain: )

I'll ask Hopes and see what he says.
 
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Are you referring to this scene here (I have a habit of making really frequent saves for my games, so renpy folder is pretty fat lol)?
It's from the save I made with the Full Experience mode.

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Huh, I must have missed it cause I speedran the playtest with ctrl fast skip (even with that, Eiza one was really noticeable, guess this one isn't unless one takes time reading :HideThePain: )

I'll ask Hopes and see what he says.
Exactly, that's the one. Seemed like an important story element that should be included... Wilfred gives a good analysis to the situation and explains how the MC should've reacted and then tells him about Gracies current disposition, then Luna enters.
 

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Im just playing it for the first time (in vn mode) and the avn is amazing!

Luna, Gracie and even Cordia all are awesome.

Im in the warehouse right now, and its so ridicoulus awesome and funny, really liked to see Luna, Antonio and the Capos in action and than ..

This sequence just killed me :LOL::LOL::LOL: Joey4promotion!

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Cartageno

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This is one of the downsides to a very long dev cycle though.

A game can start of as class leading in various aspects; graphics, story, gameplay etc. But when it actually gets to a full release its peers have overtaken it in some or many aspects.

This game had outstanding renders at the start of its development and its something that even Summers gone will face if it continues its drawn out cycle.
Games with more stylized rather than cutting edge graphics are more immune to this.
Honest question: do you really see that much of a difference to other, newer, games here on F95 though? Because I really don't. You can argue about who's got the better models, the better scenes and stuff, but from a technical point I fail to see where it all breaks apart. Could you name a game that's really better, not by taste in setting or characters themselves but from a technical point of view?
 

vks017

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Honest question: do you really see that much of a difference to other, newer, games here on F95 though? Because I really don't. You can argue about who's got the better models, the better scenes and stuff, but from a technical point I fail to see where it all breaks apart. Could you name a game that's really better, not by taste in setting or characters themselves but from a technical point of view?
I agree with you this game holds up very well to most newer games still. There is not that much difference as you say.

I am currently playing Summers Gone, maybe why its on my mind. I would say it does have better renders. It has plenty of weaknesses, this game has it beat for story for example.

When I first played Deluca years ago it wowed me graphically. It has been a while since I played Deluca, as Im waiting for more content, maybe my with a replay I will change my mind.
 

BoltonGuy35

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Really glad I get to play this in VN mode now, been waiting for a longtime to read the story without the sandbox element (played a while ago after a tip from a friend and enjoyed the story but the sandbox ruined it so gave up). Also finally able to play a game with a mafia story that is more believable after playing a certain other game that is a piss poor excuse for the theme. My Sunday is going to be a good day.
 
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