I was referring to the statement Nazizi made, after the Silverinos left, about 'the serpent' taking charge of the family all those years ago, and how they went from being a mid-family to being one who even big 5 don't provoke easily.
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Honestly what is wrong with you JJJ84?! Douens of post discussing game lore and where the fuck are you?
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I agree. Wilfred can make and implement important decisions on his own from behind the scenes. At least he's a partner in leadership.
Will this morality system, which gives us points for the decisions we make, be important in the future?
And why is it so difficult to understand
I don't understand why installing cameras is moral but audio recording is not and there are more such cases. It's as if the game is judging that being totally ruthless and having no mercy towards your enemies is moral. Is this about mafioso morality and not general morality? But then the game again judges that the fact that Joey used the gun is not moral or that we consider honor and integrity to be important when talking to Serpent. And why is it also moral to remain silent during the attack on the beach house and not to stand up for Luna and Gracie?
And why is it so difficult to understand
I don't understand why installing cameras is moral but audio recording is not and there are more such cases. It's as if the game is judging that being totally ruthless and having no mercy towards your enemies is moral. Is this about mafioso morality and not general morality? But then the game again judges that the fact that Joey used the gun is not moral or that we consider honor and integrity to be important when talking to Serpent. And why is it also moral to remain silent during the attack on the beach house and not to stand up for Luna and Gracie?
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"Morality" is the stats term that is used inside the code for the game.
For the player, the game refers to it as "Dispassion" (check the quoted post below)
Hence, High morality stat by code = High Dispassion of MC in game.
As for what's to be done with Morality/Dispassion etc in game's future, I asked Hopes about this back in June and he said it's "yet to be decided."
anyone got some info on a new update ? discord is quiet and patreon is not available for me.
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Here's a reply from Hopes from my discord DM with him last week:
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Only when the update drops we'll know whether he was working on the game full time or not. Nothing changed since he left his actual job. It's the same shit ever again like when he had the job. Hell we don't even know if he's not lying about the job.
There's no excuse if you can't be bothered to give an update to his supporters when you are working on the game fulltime. He doesn't even pause the payments when he's supposedly not working.
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Too much work to read the post above yours huh........
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Not talking about discord. Last time I checked you don't need no money to talk with dev or get updates in discord. I'm talking about the paying supporters in patreon. Also it's not like he made an announcement in discord or something. He dm'd some guy about his status, not about the game status. I see nothing in that post talking about the game of his except that update is nowhere near in sight.
Tell me who should actually get to know about the status of the game first?
Some random non paying supporter in discord or paying supporters in patreon.
I knew that you were gonna get on my ass ass after I made that post lol. It's like your only job is to berate or criticize anyone who says something against hopes.
I think its better he stays silent if not this thread would turn into another WVM. best to keep your mouth shut if u have nothing good to say even if your milking 
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lol the irony is hilarious seeing you going on and on about supporters and Patreon (2 posts in a row lol), on this site.
If you really are a paying supporter, why even complain about it on a pirate site when you really should be voicing your complaints/criticisms on his patreon?
And if you're not his patron, please don't start with the whole "I'm still saying this for the injustice done to Hopes' Patrons" blah blah.
I've seen idiots use that dumb argument time and time again over the years lol.
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Yepp, you are correct about everything of course, how could you not! Very impressive!
Oh well, to The List!™ you go!
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I was one, not anymore, drawn my conclusion and I will see, if in the future that will change again. Interesting thing about Patreons are, the neither sheps nor dumb, just your normal average humans. Sure the zone is a bad example for average, but...
So, if someone give or not give his hard earned money to some dev, it is his and only his fucking problem alone. Different people have different opinions and that ends with different result.
I agree, that a dev should inform their supporter somehow regulary on how the status is - no need to write a novel, but few sentence that cover the important part of the message.
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