Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[JJJ84]

Hey HopesGaming, hope you and all the fellow DeLuca Family soldiers out there are having a great day.
Just couple of questions for ya before I return to work.

1) Hypothetically, is there any way to give Gracie a good scare or fright through conventional means (like MC did with Luna in Musala Hill with the "bee")?

At the moment, perhaps it's just me, but it seems almost impossible, with Gracie having a strong tendency to overanalyze things and makes decisions purely on information (even in extreme situations such as Isabel's freezer event, she remained pretty much unphased, just annoyed).
With MC trying to break Gracie out of that shell through his interactions with her (of thinking less on rational/calculating way, and more with empathy), I just wonder how would MC manage to give her a scare (if he ever decides to)?


2) So is the plan for the "Lore" stuff to release with new gameplay mechanic in 0.7? Looking forward to that if that's the case. Question regarding that is, will it be accessible through the main menu (like "gallery" in 0.6.5), or will it be accessible through MC's bedroom interface?


3) I actually love the "end of current content" screens for the girls in angel wings (actually wish we could see them in gallery in HD glory also). It's probably quite a while away (my guess is possibly the update after the 0.7?), but I'm actually really looking forward to Cordia's lewd/freeroam content (and her "end of current content" screen)


4) Just something I noticed while I was looking over the girls' "end of current content" screens, both Luna and Isabel have white angel wings, whereas Gracie has one white wing, and one black wing. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but is there some hidden meaning behind it (giving Gracie one black wing, which I totally don't mind, and merely asking this out of curiosity)?


5) Love all the special renders I see on your discord, but damn, that "Witcheress Luna" render basically stole my heart (somehow it fits Luna perfectly, with both Ciri and Luna being hot-headed, impulsive characters, but are actually sweethearts once you get to know them).

 

[Hazeti]

Just something I noticed while I was looking over the girls' "end of current content" screens, both Luna and Isabel have white angel wings, whereas Gracie has one white wing, and one black wing. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but is there some hidden meaning behind it (giving Gracie one black wing, which I totally don't mind, and merely asking this out of curiosity)?

Those wings imo represent the duality of her character , on one side we see a person who is extremely protective and loving towards the people she holds close to her heart i.e her family and even to an extent the MC and on the other side this cold , calculating , callous individual who would most likely stop at nothing to destroy the individuals who would do her family and loved ones any harm. Kind of like two face from batman , i love the dichotomy of her character and i want it to be explored more

 

[Terryujin]

Added goodnight kiss for Isabel ??
How do I unlock it?

 

[HopesGaming]

What's with the Filius reviews I'm getting lately?
I am so accurate that I am scaring myself! Like the latest review by PhoenixRage23 FlipFish and the rest.
It's like they ignore tag, comments, reviews. Download blind and expect a game to be made how they want it to be made and then review it based on that. It so stupid imo and disingenuous thing to do.
They are not reviewing the game for it's content, for the quality, the quantity but 100% only because it lacks what they desire - sexual content.
Btw, I am not saying your not allowed for your opinion or your review. Just giving my opinion on your reviews.

Anyways enough with the rant with those kinds of people.

Thank you to all who took their time and give a genuine review! Appreciate it all!

Hey HopesGaming, hope you and all the fellow DeLuca Family soldiers out there are having a great day.
Just couple of questions for ya before I return to work.

1) Hypothetically, is there any way to give Gracie a good scare or fright through conventional means (like MC did with Luna in Musala Hill with the "bee")?

At the moment, perhaps it's just me, but it seems almost impossible, with Gracie having a strong tendency to overanalyze things and makes decisions purely on information (even in extreme situations such as Isabel's freezer event, she remained pretty much unphased, just annoyed).
With MC trying to break Gracie out of that shell through his interactions with her (of thinking less on rational/calculating way, and more with empathy), I just wonder how would MC manage to give her a scare (if he ever decides to)?


2) So is the plan for the "Lore" stuff to release with new gameplay mechanic in 0.7? Looking forward to that if that's the case. Question regarding that is, will it be accessible through the main menu (like "gallery" in 0.6.5), or will it be accessible through MC's bedroom interface?


3) I actually love the "end of current content" screens for the girls in angel wings (actually wish we could see them in gallery in HD glory also). It's probably quite a while away (my guess is possibly the update after the 0.7?), but I'm actually really looking forward to Cordia's lewd/freeroam content (and her "end of current content" screen)


4) Just something I noticed while I was looking over the girls' "end of current content" screens, both Luna and Isabel have white angel wings, whereas Gracie has one white wing, and one black wing. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but is there some hidden meaning behind it (giving Gracie one black wing, which I totally don't mind, and merely asking this out of curiosity)?


5) Love all the special renders I see on your discord, but damn, that "Witcheress Luna" render basically stole my heart (somehow it fits Luna perfectly, with both Ciri and Luna being hot-headed, impulsive characters, but are actually sweethearts once you get to know them).

1) Everyone can be scared. It just depends on what they fear. For some it's bugs for other it is something else.

2) Plan is for it to be released either with 0.07 or as a side update after the main release

3) Yes. The angel pics will be added to the gallery. Now with the planned new angel pics, this is the only way to show the old one to the new players. Planned for 0.07 or small update after

4) Only time will tell. Or not. Maybe. Heh.

5) Yea I liked that one as well. Definitely want to make more Witcher focused renders.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Do people just download games without knowing anything about them? Maybe I'm weird but before I try any game I try to find out if it's something that I would actually be into. The dev said from the beginning that this wouldn't be like other games where girls get crazy about you super fast.

 

[iiRise]

Im really loving this game as i enjoy plot heavy games with some Adult stuff on the side, it kind of gets old when every game has Girls throw themselves at you for absolutly no reason, if that happened with this game i honestly believe it would ruin it considering HopesGaming has some of the best character development of games i've seen, an argument could be made about the pacing being a bit slow at times however it is usually made up by an amazing update like we did about Luna's back story.

I'm pretty happy with the game, i just wish this Covid-19 nonsense could hurry up and end so i can feel comfortable Pledging.

 

[Ayhsel]

Do people just download games without knowing anything about them? Maybe I'm weird but before I try any game I try to find out if it's something that I would actually be into. The dev said from the beginning that this wouldn't be like other games where girls get crazy about you super fast.

That is not a problem. Sometimes not knowing works better, as your expectation don't affect your experience. Lots of favorite of mine were downloaded without knowing anything. Actually, both favorite Rebirth and DeLuca, which I love and support, were like that too. Rebirth was even harder as the description of the game is just:

"Guy lives a life with few worries, till an unfortunate encounter with a mysterious woman changes his life. "

The problem lies in reviewing things with the wrong scale, like expecting sex in a Disney's child movie, less character development and more combat focus in Mass Effect or color in a Charlie Chaplin's movie. You are going to get disappointed.

 

[HopesGaming]

Do people just download games without knowing anything about them? Maybe I'm weird but before I try any game I try to find out if it's something that I would actually be into. The dev said from the beginning that this wouldn't be like other games where girls get crazy about you super fast.

That's the whole premise with the Filius character. Like the latest review by PhoenixRage23.
He admitted that he only played a fraction of it and hence it's not a review of the game.
It is clear he hasn't read the tags (which clearly stated the sexual content) nor the other reviews or the comments.
So, what is he really reviewing if not the game itself? He is reviewing that the game lacks what he himself wants... Like reviewing a horror movie and getting annoyed that it lacks romance.
Going through his post history and it is filled with the same comments and reviews.

But we can't single that guy out only. Pretty much 99% of the negative 'reviewers' of my game is the same thing. Not a review of the game but what they thought the game was going to be (based on nothing but their own mind). There are those that try to act like there is more than that involved but anyone can clearly see that it is in the end about the sexual content.
Only one guy, that I remember, made a low rating based on his dislike for the game based on the actual games story and content. KrystofDayne. So, kudos to him. Even tho I disagree with it (what can I say, I am biased, hehe. ) I respect it.

But that's the main point. Review the damn game on what it IS not what you expected it to be without trying to at least read the damn tags.

Low ratings are fine - as long as it is honest. Idiotic reviews are idiotic.

Ayhsel

Agree with what you said. Sometimes you just want to try something completely blind (I do that with many movies). But then they should at least have the decency to not act all confused when it is not like they imagined.

 

[JJJ84]

That's the whole premise with the Filius character. Like the latest review by PhoenixRage23.
He admitted that he only played a fraction of it and hence it's not a review of the game.
It is clear he hasn't read the tags (which clearly stated the sexual content) nor the other reviews or the comments.
So, what is he really reviewing if not the game itself? He is reviewing that the game lacks what he himself wants... Like reviewing a horror movie and getting annoyed that it lacks romance.
Going through his post history and it is filled with the same comments and reviews.

But we can't single that guy out only. Pretty much 99% of the negative 'reviewers' of my game is the same thing. Not a review of the game but what they thought the game was going to be (based on nothing but their own mind). There are those that try to act like there is more than that involved but anyone can clearly see that it is in the end about the sexual content.
Only one guy, that I remember, made a low rating based on his dislike for the game based on the actual games story and content. KrystofDayne. So, kudos to him. Even tho I disagree with it (what can I say, I am biased, hehe. ) I respect it.

But that's the main point. Review the damn game on what it IS not what you expected it to be without trying to at least read the damn tags.

Low ratings are fine - as long as it is honest. Idiotic reviews are idiotic.

Ayhsel

Agree with what you said. Sometimes you just want to try something completely blind (I do that with many movies). But then they should at least have the decency to not act all confused when it is not like they imagined.

It really gets tiring (for me) seeing them repeat their whole "song & dance" time and time again, so I can only imagine how annoying it gets for you. What I generally found that rubs me the wrong way was these people basically state their own bias like it is facts, and treat the others (not just you, but basically majority of DeLuca fans out there) like we don't know better (LOL).

I mean, criticism because something isn't your cup of tea is one thing (being different strokes for different folks and all) , but there's respectful and outright disrespectful way to express it. And from what I've seen, most of those people have just been disrespecful and your Filius character was very funny, yet so accurate way to portray those people.

 

[Ayhsel]

Agree with what you said. Sometimes you just want to try something completely blind (I do that with many movies). But then they should at least have the decency to not act all confused when it is not like they imagined.

I agree with you. That was the point of "The problem lies in reviewing things with the wrong scale".
I tend to assume that people can discern the tone in which a story is told out of their own desires. But hey, then we have situations like that guy that just could not do with Luna's past and thought that his own feeble mind was reason enough on to say that DeLuca sucks. So maybe I expect too much.

I have meant the creation of a standalone file for the Filius Canis scene more like a joke than anything, but I am thinking it would be worth to do it. Those that need to see the scene most, to understand how they sound, are unlikely to stay that long playing the game.

It really gets tiring (for me) seeing them repeat their whole "song & dance" time and time again

That is the reason why I tend to take a few days off this thread. I love it as I love the game and love debating, but it can become a bit toxic anytime some douche try to teach us how the better version of the game would be. You know, telling us to make the game exactly to THEIR taste but not for them, but for OUR sake. I try to be nice and avoid them, asking myself what would Keanu do? but sometimes I just can't control myself and start answering back, which I know I shouldn't.

 

[UncleVT]

I came to the conclusion among so many fights in so many threads that there are people who don't need to be into a game, doesn't care about, they need a battlefield to be able to argument. Delays, lack content, NTR, whatever are just excuses to dispute with other people. If the game has a lot of followers, so much the better.

 

[HopesGaming]

Those that need to see the scene most, to understand how they sound, are unlikely to stay that long playing the game.

I know they will never get to the scene but the scene was just for you guys to get a little chuckle.

I came to the conclusion among so many fights in so many threads that there are people who don't need to be into a game, doesn't care about, they need a battlefield to be able to argument. Delays, lack content, NTR, whatever are just excuses to dispute with other people. If the game has a lot of followers, so much the better.

Pretty much this, yeah. And the basis of the Filus 'inspiration'

What I generally found that rubs me the wrong way was these people basically state their own bias like it is facts, and treat the others (not just you, but basically majority of DeLuca fans out there) like we don't know better (LOL).

This fact I think gets overseen so much. Not only in this game but in so many games out there.

 

[thenono]

"some men just want to watch the world burn" seems appropriate here

 

[JJJ84]

5) Yea I liked that one as well. Definitely want to make more Witcher focused renders.

I'd love to see you do more.

This is just how I'd imagine the DeLuca cast, if they were reborn as Witcher characters (though I'm sure you might have different thoughts):

Wilfred as Geralt
Cordia as Yennefer
Isabel as Triss
Gracie as Cerys (or Renfri from Butcher of Blaviken storyline from the books)
Lucan as Crach
Antonio as Lambert
"Serpent" as Cahir (from the books)
Gottardo as Zoltan
Joey as Dandelion

Damn, looking at this list now, compared to Ciri = Luna which are perfectly in sync, sync in some of these are pretty terrible

 

[Ayhsel]

I'd love to see you do more.

This is just how I'd imagine the DeLuca cast, if they were reborn as Witcher characters (though I'm sure you might have different thoughts):

Wilfred as Geralt
Cordia as Yennefer
Isabel as Triss
Gracie as Cerys (or Renfri from Butcher of Blaviken storyline from the books)
Lucan as Crach
Antonio as Lambert
"Serpent" as Cahir (from the books)
Gottardo as Zoltan
Joey as Dandelion

Damn, looking at this list now, compared to Ciri = Luna which are perfectly in sync, sync in some of these are pretty terrible

Where can I find those renders? I don't use discord at all but now I am intrigued. I have an account and I am the DeLuca channel but just don't use it.

 

[JJJ84]

Where can I find those renders? I don't use discord at all but now I am intrigued.

Hopes just did the Witcheress Luna one. The above list is just how I'd imagine the other characters to be. Hold on I'll see if I can find the Luna one for ya (that is, if you haven't seen it already).

 

[JJJ84]

Darn, I remember saving it before on my laptop, but forgot that I had my hard drive formatted (sorry Ayhsel ) . HopesGaming would you mind sharing that Luna Ciri cosplay pic here (for people who haven't seen it already)?
It seems I can't find it on the discord for some reason.

 

[Ayhsel]

Darn, I remember saving it before on my laptop, but forgot that I had my hard drive formatted (sorry Ayhsel ) . HopesGaming would you mind sharing that Luna Ciri cosplay pic here (for people who haven't seen it already)?
It seems I can't find it on the discord for some reason.

Intention very appreciated nonetheless!!

 

[PhoenixRage23]

Please read your review (2/5) and then this. I am sorry i am just quoting. I got tired of explaining it. Your review:

After playing the game for a few hours I can honestly say that I'm disappointed. The renders are pretty good, but there aren't enough animations during the very slow build up of intimacy. I know the developer wants to build up the relationships and the storyline, but the lack of more intimate events has been lackluster to say the least. Maybe in another 6 months to a year when he finally makes it an "adult" game with more lewd and sex scenes the game might be worth a 4 start rating.

With the lack of intimacy and sex this game doesn't really get a "rise" out of me at all. I thought this game had real potential, but most of it is pretty boring especially with the "contracts". Hitting a button for the different contracts and not seeing any type of actual play seeing the MC doing them is boring. It's almost like playing the old style html games with just dialogue to read. Maybe in another year or two there will be a decent amount of events and sex scenes to make playing this game worthwhile.






And technically oral sex is sexual content, here you have wikipedia explanation

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Good day.

When people on here question my integrity and I pretty much get bullied it makes me to not want to visit F95 ever again.

 

[HopesGaming]

First of all I did play through the entire game. Second of all I did read the tags before I downloaded the game and played it in it's entirety. I gave it my honest review after playing the "whole" game. I was disappointed because the only teasing that I really saw was in the "dream sequences" when the MC goes to bed. With the description from the dev about their being sex or the promise of sex was the disappointing part of the game.

The tags of "oral sex", "teasing" and "romance" to me don't equal sexual content that most of us are used to playing "adult" games. I have played a lot of adult games over the last year and a half and understand what the tags mean. There is no tag that says "sexual content" at all on the first page of the thread for the game. Some may see that tags as sexual content, but to me it's a lot more teasing than anything. The "sex" part is more of an almost "SFW".

That is not quite true, now is it? You clearly stated that you only played a couple of hours and that is far from being able to beat the game. The only way to do that is ctrl skipping it all.
"With the description from the dev about their being sex"
Where did I ever say there was sex in the game? I said, and still say, there will be sexual content in the game. But I am not rushing it and the game is not for the people that only play for the sexual content. How does that qualify as me saying there already is?

"The tags of "oral sex", "teasing" and "romance" to me don't equal sexual content that most of us are used to playing "adult" games."

Eh? You're shooting yourself in the foot with this part... Yes, those are the tags.
There is a lot of teasing going, there is a lot of romance and there is a oral sex scene. The tag is accurate and is not misleading.
". There is no tag that says "sexual content" at all on the first page of the thread for the game. Some may see that tags as sexual content, but to me it's a lot more teasing than anything. The "sex" part is more of an almost "SFW""

If we ignore that oral sex actual is sexual content- then yes, the tags showed you the game wasn't for you and what the game contained. So, why did you play it? What did you expect? That is what people are talking about.

Again, you're shooting yourself in the foot with this part. You're basically confirming the fact that the tags clearly tells you the game does not contain what you want.

I can understand the dev wants to build up the game with relationships and storyline. That's fine, but I have seen a lot of games with the promise of "sexual content" that players lost interest very quickly. Pony Waifu Sim is a perfect example. There is one major h-scene in a game that been out for almost 3 years. Most of the comments pretty much say the same thing about the dev milking the game. I'm not saying that is what's happening with this game.

I don't get this point. I don't want to build up the game with relationships and a storyline. That IS the game... This is a niche game. The story focused game. The sexual part will play a big role but will never overtake the main focus which is the story. Hence people enjoy the game for the story. (The many people you seem to ignore)

I don't know that game you were using as an example, but my game is a niche game where people expect and want the story and characters shenanigans. Go through the comments here. Try to read the positive reviews (which is 90% of the reviews).
Why do you think that is? Why do you think they enjoy the game? Sexual content will appear when I feel like it should appear. No blue balling. No false pretense. No misleading.
Story first. Sexual content once I feel I want it in.

You guys can facepalm me or give a thumbs down all you want. It won't change my opinion on the current state of the game. Everyone can have their own opinion. It's a free country. This is exactly why I don't leave very many reviews on games here on F95. It's the same thing with NTR. Some people hate it and some people like it. If I don't like it than don't call me stupid or idiot if I don't agree with you on a certain game that you like in a review that I leave.

When people on here question my integrity and I pretty much get bullied it makes me to not want to visit F95 ever again.

First of all, no one is bullying you. (And should not bully you)
You are, of course, allowed to your review (I would never say to take it down or change it)... BUT, and this is a big but, other people are allowed their opinions on your review. Especially if the review feels dishonest.

Why are you allowed to your opinion (which is shitting on my game with false pretense) while I am not allowed to my opinion without it being called bullying?

As long as neither of us breaks the rule, it is fine. Your review nor comments should be removed or changed. It may not be a true representation of the game but it is not breaking the rule. But neither are the comments against you.