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From MC's point of view, in the beginning everyone was a complete stranger, but from Cordia's point of view, I think there is certain degree of affection/respect that already exists towards the MC that didn't exist with the other members of the Family.
She's the one who orders MC to be treated well (to everyone's confusion), and it's due to her wishes that MC gets to dine together with the rest of the Family members. She even asks to MC there how he feels and whether he's been treated well.
She could have just given him a meal and told him to eat by himself (or with other typical "employees under contract" of DeLucas) without joining the Family for dinner because he's not their blood.
Also, there's the fact that Antonio mentions that Cordia was furious to find out someone tried to poison the MC as well.
Perhaps this soft spot Cordia has for MC has to do with her own past friendship with MC's mom Rina. Or it could also be her mysterious past with MC's father. We won't know until much later. But it's certain Cordia went through great lengths to make sure MC is treated well.
Don't know about you, but for me, I'm getting the feeling the whole "Forced Contract" with the MC is just semantics to her to keep MC around (though I just don't think there's any nefarious plan in design regarding the MC from her to be honest).
As to why Cordia would be disappointed? Well, you can only be disappointed in someone when you know that person, and you have certain expectations regarding that person. Cordia is finding out more about MC with him spending time with everyone in the Family, and with her free-roam event approaching (possibly after Eiza's sister story update is done? Though who knows), she will spend more time with MC and get closer with him.
If Cordia caught a run-of-the-mill employee who was using bugs to spy on the Family, then she wouldn't care about the employee at all (unless that person was close to Cordia herself), & would have no problem seeing the person eliminated.
But it's MC that is being looked at here. I just see the whole "He is a prisoner" aspect of the forced contract as mere technicality at this point.
And with MC basically developing great relationship with all the girls (including Cordia), if MC gets caught doing something she (Cordia) does not approve, I think she'd be disappointed (if the player chose audio, she'd be more understanding, and while disappointed, may be more forgiving like her catching MC red-handed in her office situation.
Though if the player chose the cameras, I doubt she'll be as lenient especially with MC going "peeping Tom" mode on her girls).
p.s. I think I'm just gonna leave this debate here. It was fun and all, but I think we're basically going around in circles with this. And I'd rather finish this with "Let's just agree to disagree."
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Again, you are arguing from the present perspective, and about Cordia, if she was so callous as to not be able to empathize with the Mc, which she isn't as proven by the scene when she finds him in her office, and as I said in a previous post, logically speaking a camera is better because you capture hidden compartments, faces, documents, etc... I'm not saying she shouldn't be upset, or wouldn't be, but that if she stops to think about it, she won't be for long, and as far as she was shown, she is rather logical, well, not when it is about Luna, but that is a whole other monster.
And yes, the contract is obviously just a way to keep him there, I don't think there is I'll intent, I'm just talking from the past perspective, and Mc's at that, from present-day I get the feeling that the contract is something the Mc's mother might have very well requested to keep him safe from someone from her's and Cordia's past. Or because she knew she was about to die and wanted Cordia to take care of him, or at least finish his training.
- Dec 24, 2018
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- Dec 24, 2018
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Been going through gallery replays of the game lately, and some interesting tidbits about Cynthia, aka "Queen C."
- One of DeLuca Family's 4 Serpents
- According to Gottardo, only her, along with Wilfred knows "Serpent"'s true name (though I'm getting the feeling he's a little bit misinformed there, if my suspicion that Rina's ex-fiance = "Serpent" turns out to be true. If that's the case, Cordia would know also).
- She is Luna's teacher.
- Luna is aspiring to be like her in the future (gruesome & vile).
- She gives Gracie relationship advices.
- Gracie wears her old Serpent uniform to the beach prison event.
- She warns Gottardo that he talks too much.
- She went to a formal event in dress and high heels accompanying Cordia.
- According to Hopes (as answer to one of my previous questions), one word to describe her personality is "Wild."
She hasn't even made her debut yet, and there's a lot of information that is laid out already about her that gets me excited for her.
Compared to her, there seems to be little to no information told about the 4th Serpent yet, other than according to Hopes, the personality to describe this Serpent is "Evil."
I don't know, for some reason, I'm thinking perhaps the character may be similar to Kramer from Saw franchise with all his death traps (or I could be totally off the mark, who knows).
I wonder whether we'll see other characters mentioning the 4th Serpent like with Cynthia, or whether he/she'll remain shrouded in mystery/mystery until the actual reveal.
- One of DeLuca Family's 4 Serpents
- According to Gottardo, only her, along with Wilfred knows "Serpent"'s true name (though I'm getting the feeling he's a little bit misinformed there, if my suspicion that Rina's ex-fiance = "Serpent" turns out to be true. If that's the case, Cordia would know also).
- She is Luna's teacher.
- Luna is aspiring to be like her in the future (gruesome & vile).
- She gives Gracie relationship advices.
- Gracie wears her old Serpent uniform to the beach prison event.
- She warns Gottardo that he talks too much.
- She went to a formal event in dress and high heels accompanying Cordia.
- According to Hopes (as answer to one of my previous questions), one word to describe her personality is "Wild."
She hasn't even made her debut yet, and there's a lot of information that is laid out already about her that gets me excited for her.
Compared to her, there seems to be little to no information told about the 4th Serpent yet, other than according to Hopes, the personality to describe this Serpent is "Evil."
I don't know, for some reason, I'm thinking perhaps the character may be similar to Kramer from Saw franchise with all his death traps (or I could be totally off the mark, who knows).
I wonder whether we'll see other characters mentioning the 4th Serpent like with Cynthia, or whether he/she'll remain shrouded in mystery/mystery until the actual reveal.
- Aug 22, 2018
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I have a feeling by the end of this we'll be killing those serpents.
Cordia says the old ones betrayed her.
History has a habit of repeating itself.
Cordia says the old ones betrayed her.
History has a habit of repeating itself.
- May 9, 2019
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Serves them right for calling themselves the serpents.
Next team should be the puppy tigers. Everybody loves tigers and everybody love puppies. Win-win!
- Aug 22, 2018
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With the very special ability to make anyone smile and hugs, everyone loves hugs too.
Be a weird as hell story though.
- Dec 24, 2018
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Giacobbe does say "Serpents" betrayed Cordia, but it's a bit unclear whether it was all the Serpents, or just MC's mom Rina, and his father (with "Serpent" i.e. Rina's ex-fiance siding with Cordia from beginning).
It could possibly be that "Serpent" originally sided with betrayers, but later switched sides to the betrayed (Cordia), hence he hides his face partly to cover his identity, but also partly due to his shame for his past act.
Guess without the flashbacks exploring this, it would be difficult to know.
Not sure about killing of the Serpents to be honest. If they do die, I'd prefer for them to go out in a blaze of glory rather than us having to kill them for something like betrayal.
If they do perish, well the Family already has 3 candidates who are either aiming for Serpent, or actually has Serpent level potential (MC, Luna, Gracie, not sure who 4th would be).
Well considering that the Family's symbol is Serpent itself, just imagine having puppy tigers symbols on their chest lol (from soldado onwards)
Not sure about the second generation ("Serpent", Gottardo, Cynthia, 4th Serpent), but with the first generation (Cordia, Rina, "Serpent", MC's dad), if I remember correctly (as mentioned by Cordia to MC) it was their enemies that started calling them that, and they didn't give that name themselves.
- Aug 22, 2018
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I have 2 theories.
1 is Joey. Overlooked to point of hilarity despite the fact he managed to sneak into a highly defended position with Gracie and completely screw up their defense.
2 is MC's friend from the the other family. Something tells me there is more to him.
The games art shows the 3 girls and MC but I have a hard time seeing Isabel as the 4th unless teasing is considered a special ability.
Unless it's Cordia again.
- May 9, 2019
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I know, but what was first? the symbol or the nickname?
Totally worked against me!
- Dec 24, 2018
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If I was a betting man, I'd probably put my money on Jalen (MC's friend). He's already a hardened Capo going through the of his own Kaskar Family, so seems like a perfect fit. But not sure whether it's possible when his Family is still around (if his whole Family gets wiped out by the enemies, then that would be a different story).
I don't like underestimating characters, but from what's been shown Isabel doesn't seem to have any talent or potential in terms becoming a Serpent (come to think of it, doesn't she have like zero field experience? That's even less than Gracie).
But she might do well regarding managing of the Family's money, resources etc, matters which require a manager.
- Dec 24, 2018
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The game doesn't specifically say, but my guess is, the nickname came first.
Following is my theory:
1) Cordia, Rina (MC's mom), "Serpent", MC's dad all became friends at some point and also fight together, so their enemies start calling them "The four Serpents"
2) They amass enough power to form and become the 4 founders of The DeLuca Family (and Serpent becomes the Family's symbol) [according to Giocabbe, there were 4 founders of DeLuca Family]
3) Not long after the Family is formed, they have a big falling out (over a matter), and Cordia gets betrayed.
4) "Serpent" either sides with Cordia from beginning or switches to her side sometime during the whole conflict/war.
5) During this war, MC, Luna, Gracie are born
This theory is just my conjecture, but we're possibly getting the Lore section in 0.07, so if that happens, if might help understand more as to what happened.
- Dec 1, 2019
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I am really interested what'll happen with Joey. There is a good chance he is just a joke character (lethal as in Monty Python's "funniest joke in the world" style) which will appear from time to time to lighten the mood of those recognizing him (i. e. nobody). But I see a chance that he'll be some kind of evil boss towards the end of the storyline, having infiltrated the family for nefarious purposes.
Man my memory is RUSTY. I don't recall MC being poisoned at all. Someone gimme a memory jog. What/when did that happen?
- Dec 1, 2019
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Ooooh yeeeah. That's what prompted the cameras to begin with right? To figure out who was trying to kill him.
- Aug 22, 2018
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Basically his mother has been "torturing" him all his life to prepare him for this only he's not seeing it yet. He just thinks she was a bad mother.
really liked the game so far though many will disagree but i am a little disappointed with so much of luna whose story feels so sad,heartbreaking and in conclusion just unrewarding
in contrast grace and isabella are much more fun specially mind games with grace and teaching her social conducts and kind of molding her character is much more interesting and rewarding
i hope grace , isabella and cordia gets little more attention from the dev as i feel they are little neglected so far
in contrast grace and isabella are much more fun specially mind games with grace and teaching her social conducts and kind of molding her character is much more interesting and rewarding
i hope grace , isabella and cordia gets little more attention from the dev as i feel they are little neglected so far
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Isabella got a lot of content recently with a bit of grace. I am just waiting for more content for the spy girl and Lady Cordia.