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Please give me an example of a game you like and let's see how realistic it is. (I have a feeling you're going to ignore this part)
Something must have happened in May - before that he was dealing and liking almost exclusively 4 and 5 star reviews, since then nothing above 3 stars. Same with ratings liked. "Personal Assistant" seems to be his favorite at first glance.
 

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Something must have happened in May - before that he was dealing and liking almost exclusively 4 and 5 star reviews, since then nothing above 3 stars. Same with ratings liked. "Personal Assistant" seems to be his favorite at first glance.
Kudos to him (gonna assume he is male) not hiding his profile like most serial complainers, though. At least he is standing behind his words.
 

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Something must have happened in May - before that he was dealing and liking almost exclusively 4 and 5 star reviews, since then nothing above 3 stars. Same with ratings liked. "Personal Assistant" seems to be his favorite at first glance.
Sadly can't say I've played it. But looking at the screenshot of caged females. I have a feeling it probably going to fall into the unrealistic story rather quickly.
 

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Soldado is just what a soldier in a mafia Hiraki is called.
Clicking the continue button should be very simple, heh.
Glad you like the game!



To start, you are picking and avoiding some things to quote and answer. I guess that means you admit to your faults on the parts you don't answer on? Good. Being honest about your mistake is a good thing. Also, kudos for better quotation style. Easier to read now.

So you say there is nothing realistic about the game which is a very weak excuse to use in a game as stated in my review.

If you're going to twist my word why not say 'so, you say that dragons are not real birds and only fly backwards?'
I mean, jeez. I said my game is not a realistic setting and hence it be stupid to base it solely on that. Instead you wrote
"So you say there is nothing realistic about the game "
Like eh? No I didn't.

But to simplify it a bit.
Guy has a weird cowboy hat with a huge ass sniper. He killed over 30 people from a distanec without missing.
Girl (Luna, I know you don't know who it is), can kill several people alone while jumping around in the air.
A guy kill several people just with a flail against several armed people.
Want me to keep going?
The game is not meant to be a slice of life. It is over the top and meant to entertain. Both in the action part but also on the lewd part.

As it is with the majority of the adult game. It is not meant to be realistic. Do you think incest is an everyday occurrence? That dildo guns are just what every girl love to buy? That a guy can have sex with the whole town by simple doing them some mundane favors?
Please give me an example of a game you like and let's see how realistic it is. (I have a feeling you're going to ignore this part)


"Your definition of slavery is so vague and stupid that it is laughable"

"As is yours, because that is slavery."

Well done on answering the points on that! By completely ignoring what I wrote and simply saying "Nope" you showed everyone who is right! *Clap clap*
Let me show you what you 'missed';
"if you ground your kids does that make them slaves? Your definition of slavery is so vague and stupid that it is laughable. Also I created that world. Contracts have the meaning of what I say they have it is. If I want to call the horses in that world for unicorns - then the horses will be unicorns, hehe. "

"For me oral sex counts as sex but to be fair i will update the review to say only oral sex "
Heh, your review looks silly by changing it to that.
Now it looks like you complain about lack of oral sex :ROFLMAO:
But respect for changing something you were completely in the wrong in (y)

I never lied, as stated "i played all but 2 of the main story missions and there was not one single sex scene or even nudity" which is 100% true as the nudity comes i assume from the side quests

The girls path are not side quests. They are main quests.
You just played the story part of the game. The girls are the lewd part and character development part.
So, yes, there is nudity in the game. Just because you quitted before it happened does not meant here isn't

" Good for them and i sure they will mention it in their reviews, i however had issues and not from not knowing what to do but that the game will not continue even when i have done all it asks me to do, so its broken. "

As I said before. Maybe games that require you to click a few more buttons than two and require a bit of reading may not be for you? I know that my granny would not be able to play any pc games. Maybe it is the same for you.
But that is not the fault of the game. That is just your lack of gaming knowledge. As you can see, the majority play it fine.
Just gonna correct you on the incest part, because it is an everyday occurrence(cousin incest the most because of not having the birth defects thing.), just not as common as in these games, because you know, religion, society, birth defects and etc... but still fairly common.
 
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I think people are going to get a rushed ending regardless. Too many unanswered questions and ton of lore that hasn't been expanded upon. That's why i always said this would of been better as a book series instead of a game.
 

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Kudos to him (gonna assume he is male) not hiding his profile like most serial complainers, though. At least he is standing behind his words.
Every time I get "facepalm" in one of my comments without a follow-up quote I try and check to see what tipe of arguments the person has and guess what? They normally are the ones that hide their activities.
 

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I think people are going to get a rushed ending regardless. Too many unanswered questions and ton of lore that hasn't been expanded upon. That's why i always said this would of been better as a book series instead of a game.
Not really, as a game Hopes can make as many sequels as they want, they can even never finish the game if they don't want to, just keep making it until they are 100 years old.
 
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But I am of the mindset that reviewing work in progress projects is no good, so don't mind what I say.
At least not until you're really on the home stretch, I agree. There is so much that can go wrong, from botched climaxes to completely out of character rushed finishes. There's also always the chance that somebody realizes the forced boring 5 minute mini games weren't such a good idea after all and suddenly the game is fun. I'd argue that in games like Parental Love or Dating My Daughter, which are technically not finished yet, you're safe to go.

But agreed, for me the DeLucas are not rate-able yet. Three star games with ups and downs can be rated earlier than those vying for the five.
 
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If you want to troll all day go right ahead but leave me out of it, if you have a real complaint about my review thats not an opinion like is it slavery or a new type of forced work i just made up, but something factually incorrect like me calling it sex when there is no sex tag(which i have already edited to oral sex) then i am happy to change my review.

Other than that i wish you good luck on your game and goodbye.
 

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Just gonna correct you on the incest part, because it is an everyday occurrence(cousin incest the most because of not having the birth defects thing.), just not as common as in these games, because you know, religion, society, birth defects and etc... but still fairly common.
Would be interested in where you got that info, what you consider "everyday occurence", and what region you're talking about. Sure, in a country of 320 million you're gonna have a couple, but is it common? I'd argue not as much in the "west".
 
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At least not until you're really on the home stretch, I agree. There is so much that can go wrong, from botched climaxes to completely out of character rushed finishes. There's also always the chance that somebody realizes the forced boring 5 minute mini games weren't such a good idea after all and suddenly the game is fun. I'd argue that in games like Parental Love or Dating My Daughter, which are technically not finished yet, you're safe to go.

But agreed, for me the DeLucas are not rate-able yet. Three star games with ups and downs can be rated earlier than those vying for the five.
DeLucas is def in my top 3, it's pretty impressive, the latest isabela arc was well done but the biggest plus this game has for me is its worldbuilding and lore, it kinda feels like john wick but with more emphasis on family then revenge.
 

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If you want to troll all day go right ahead but leave me out of it, if you have a real complaint about my review thats not an opinion like is it slavery or a new type of forced work i just made up, but something factually incorrect like me calling it sex when there is no sex tag(which i have already edited to oral sex) then i am happy to change my review.

Other than that i wish you good luck on your game and goodbye.
Of course, Filus.
Me quoting each and every of your 'points' and answering them in-depth is trolling where your review of my whole game without even really mentioned names, events, story elements, or anything else of importance - is not a troll...

Your 'review' is not a review. It's just you crying because you thought the game would contain sex and it didn't.
You even admitted that you thought that oral tag meant that there would be sex in the game.

Anyway, it's fine that you run away. As fun as it is playing around the Filius characters, I have work to do :giggle:
 

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I think people are going to get a rushed ending regardless. Too many unanswered questions and ton of lore that hasn't been expanded upon. That's why i always said this would of been better if it was a book series instead of a game.
Well you do have a point in that there is just ton of Lore there. It is not necessary to explain the beginning of the world to tell a story, though. In fact, from a first person view, it actually make sense that many of the things going on are unknown and remain unknown to the player. You are not a god, after all.

But it needs not be a bad thing. First, suppose this story is over and many questions remain unsolved. Then, Hopes can write another story in the same setting explaining more.

Second, in the limit, visual novels are just the evolution of books. Everything you can do in a book you can do it in a visual novel, but not the other way around. Why? well, a book is just a visual novel with only text. A visual novel has text, images, sound, effects and potentially choices.
Back to the unknown stuff, a visual novel sometimes allows a way out for that thing about unknown motives by allowing several routes. For example, in the first route, you aligned with princess x, so you have no idea why princess y is trying to kill princess x. In the other route, you align with princess y and the motives are explained. So you have more freedom and potentially can tell better stories.

The greatest benefit of the book would be a faster resolution, as writing only is needed. But we would lose on the amazing renders, the flashes of gunshots, the emotion that music can delivered when playing at the right time. For example, a simple render of two persons and the right music can convey love, anger, hatred, solitude, without any text whatsoever. That is a benefit visual novels have that book don't.

At least not until you're really on the home stretch, I agree. There is so much that can go wrong, from botched climaxes to completely out of character rushed finishes. There's also always the chance that somebody realizes the forced boring 5 minute mini games weren't such a good idea after all and suddenly the game is fun. I'd argue that in games like Parental Love or Dating My Daughter, which are technically not finished yet, you're safe to go.

But agreed, for me the DeLucas are not rate-able yet. Three star games with ups and downs can be rated earlier than those vying for the five.
Yes, precisely. I kind of had this discussion before at Love and submission, so let arrogantly quote myself.
I think very few people are actually able to give an objective and valuable review for work in progress projects. Many times people fail to understand that any story can totally change in the last minute and sometimes totally awesome/terrible stories became terrible/awesome just in the last page (The novel, not the movie, I am legend is a great example in my opinion of a barely passable novel written just to make a fantastic ending).
Rating and reviewing implies a more detailed analysis and implies usually a comparison to other examples (the star number is irrelevant if there are no other games to compare to). But usually, those other games are in different states of production, so it is like comparing oranges and bananas. UNLESS the game is finished. But I guess that as long as the reviewer and readers are aware that those are the state of affairs up to X version is fine (and that different developers may focus of things on different order).
 
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Would be interested in where you got that info, what you consider "everyday occurence", and what region you're talking about. Sure, in a country of 320 million you're gonna have a couple, but is it common? I'd argue not as much in the "west".
In Brazil, it is very common to people to lose their virginity to cousins, but sure I'll go look for the papers, I entered a genetics discussion yesterday and look for stuff like birth defects so I stumbled upon a lot of these, but for sake of brevity search on google "cousins that are married" and go to the first wiki, there it already says that 10% of all marriages are between cousins of the first or second degree, that only talking about marriage, most people in an immediate family would hide such relationship, maybe because in their country it is illegal, maybe because their country is super religious or some other reason.
Edit: The main problem with trying to find this information is that incest is still viewed as a bad thing to many (you know colonists and religious pricks did a number on the world), so most of the information is biased and most of the incest mentions come from rape accusations and such, probably because people that are happy with it don't announce it to the world, but mostly because of bias.
 

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Everything you can do in a book you can do it in a visual novel, but not the other way around. Why? well, a book is just a visual novel with only text. A visual novel has text, images, sound, effects and potentially choices.
While I agree with most, let me add my two cent to this.:devilish:
All things you can't do in a book are mucis and videos. Different stories, protagonist, even choice are an option. The difference would be that rather than the programm follows your path, you must and jump through the book.
 

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In Brazil, it is very common to people to lose their virginity to cousins, but sure I'll go look for the papers, I entered a genetics discussion yesterday and look for stuff like birth defects so I stumbled upon a lot of these, but for sake of brevity search on google "cousins that are married" and go to the first wiki, there it already says that 10% of all marriages are between cousins of the first or second degree, that only talking about marriage, most people in an immediate family would hide such relationship, maybe because in their country it is illegal, maybe because their country is super religious or some other reason.
Edit: The main problem with trying to find this information is that incest is still viewed as a bad thing to many (you know colonists and religious pricks did a number on the world), so most of the information is biased and most of the incest mentions come from rape accusations and such, probably because people that are happy with it don't announce it to the world, but mostly because of bias.
In this thread too? Come on man! Just kidding. That is actually true marriages between cousins are more common than people would like to believe.
 
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While I agree with most, let me add my two cent to this.:devilish:
All things you can't do in a book are mucis and videos. Different stories, protagonist, even choice are an option. The difference would be that rather than the programm follows your path, you must and jump through the book.
Oh yes of course hehe
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While I agree with most, let me add my two cent to this.:devilish:
All things you can't do in a book are mucis and videos. Different stories, protagonist, even choice are an option. The difference would be that rather than the programm follows your path, you must and jump through the book.
Although these days you can make them in programs made specifically for these types of stories so it jumps around for you, or you could be crazy and make everything in HTML or java from scratch like one of my favorites CYOA games.
 

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Second, in the limit, visual novels are just the evolution of books. Everything you can do in a book you can do it in a visual novel, but not the other way around. Why? well, a book is just a visual novel with only text. A visual novel has text, images, sound, effects and potentially choices.
Back to the unknown stuff, a visual novel sometimes allows a way out for that thing about unknown motives by allowing several routes. For example, in the first route, you aligned with princess x, so you have no idea why princess y is trying to kill princess x. In the other route, you align with princess y and the motives are explained. So you have more freedom and potentially can tell better stories.

The greatest benefit of the book would be a faster resolution, as writing only is needed. But we would lose on the amazing renders, the flashes of gunshots, the emotion that music can delivered when playing at the right time. For example, a simple render of two persons and the right music can convey love, anger, hatred, solitude, without any text whatsoever. That is a benefit visual novels have that book don't.



Yes, precisely. I kind of had this discussion before at Love and submission, so let arrogantly quote myself.
Yeah but i was looking at the bigger picture, i want to see the world and character lore as there is a TON of stuff we have no clue about and like u said the difference between a visual novel and a book series is the amount of time it takes. I guess it all comes down to how much hope really wants to evolve this "world" and how much time/effort he thinks its worth.

Stuff we are in the dark about

MC father/mother
His contract
Cordia husband
the other 2 serpents
the other families
the organization behind the families (forgot what its called)
More of the Mysterious Six

And theres a ton more, we have barely even scratched the surface. It literally feels like the game is only 5-10% complete.
 
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