Ren'Py The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[TundraLupus]

I hope you're ok? Depression can be an awful thing and I can relate as I suffer too. I love this game. For me it's really not a porn game at all. It's a really entertaining VN, with great storytelling and characters. I've actually avoided any lewd choices so far as I see the De Luca's as a surrogate family for the MC. I'm not into incest games to be honest, Luna and Gracie are sisters, Cordia is the MC's mom and Wilfred being the father figure he didn't have. Isabel is another matter though

I'm relatively ok, and I said that mostly as a joke(the porn game part), although I disagree on the surrogate family for many reasons, some of them being his mother is still alive, they literally just met, and he already has a surrogate family in his best friend and his family, although he did try and distance himself from that world.

 

[Malicre]

Cordia is the MC's mom

Wait wtf, thats news to me.

 

[c3p0]

Wait wtf, thats news to me.

Cordia is not the MC mother, at least that is canon according to Hope.

 

[Zirael Q]

Remember.
There are many parts that people may have deep questions about - but not necessarily something that takes a long time to get through.

How are you bro? Eager to see the next update can you give us anything

 

[TedMaul]

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Cordia is not the MC mother, at least that is canon according to Hope.

His "Mother" in the context of a surrogate family. Not his biological Mother.

 

[Ayhsel]

I hope you're ok? Depression can be an awful thing and I can relate as I suffer too. I love this game. For me it's really not a porn game at all. It's a really entertaining VN, with great storytelling and characters. I've actually avoided any lewd choices so far as I see the De Luca's as a surrogate family for the MC. I'm not into incest games to be honest, Luna and Gracie are sisters, Cordia is the MC's mom and Wilfred being the father figure he didn't have. Isabel is another matter though

I don't think they can work as a surrogate family. He essentially just met them. And he has been treating all girls as potential lovers. Except with Cordia. With her, it was she the one that treat him as a lover more than a son.

Iv always said there is 3 ways this game ends

MC + Luna Route (Forced)
MC + Family Harem Route (he takes over as head of the family)
MC dies for the family.

I already have a shitty life, and depression, I don't need my porn games to have sad endings, it wouldn't change that is a good game, but still.

Any of the 3 girls is possible as a solo route. Cordia we don't know yet, too little interaction.

And as I said before, all the elements for a tragedy are there. But I doubt that is the path we are going to go. Still, so many things can change that for now anything can happen.

 

[JJJ84]

Hey HopesGaming, I hope you've been well (it seems the Filius are still up to no good though )

I haven't seen the sneak peek, but from what you're saying (and your excitement with it), it does get me really excited about what's to come in 0.07.

My questions today are specifically regarding weapons (which get equipped to MC).

1) Right now, weapons only change stats of MC, but in the future, will they be something more with them? I mean, will they influence not just stats, but perhaps give variations in gameplay possibly?

2) The tournaments which Luna mentions in Beach prison event (and I remember her also mentioning winners get prizes, whether it's money or rare weapons), is that seed planted for possible future events (plus possible cool weapons MC can get his hands on, even though at that point he expressed no interest in participation for such tournaments)?

3) Is there any plans for TJ the gunsmith?
For the Musala Hill event, Luna goes to meet TJ, who she says does "amazing work on some guns."
What are the chances that MC meets TJ (through introduction by Luna) in the future & gets his own custom gun? Perhaps it's just me, but I think it would be quite fun if TJ offers MC variety of guns (which the player can choose to buy) that each gun offers something unique in terms of combat gameplay.
Or is TJ like Isabel's parents (there to just flesh out Luna's character, and her love of guns and weapons in particular)?

4) Will there be any weapons that impact the story itself in some way (like Luna's favorite knife, or Gottardo's flail etc) for MC?

 

[Cartageno]

1) Right now, weapons only change stats of MC, but in the future, will they be something more with them? I mean, will they influence not just stats, but perhaps give variations in gameplay possibly?

I don't think that a VN has the same capacity for different paths depending on weapon that a fight based game might have. Of course you can have the upcoming sneaky part play differently with a knife and an AK 47, but even that is a stretch, everything beyond is probably beyond the scope of the engine without too much work. Which is a shame, because I really like the idea.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Would be interested in where you got that info, what you consider "everyday occurence", and what region you're talking about. Sure, in a country of 320 million you're gonna have a couple, but is it common? I'd argue not as much in the "west".

In Brazil, it is very common to people to lose their virginity to cousins, but sure I'll go look for the papers, I entered a genetics discussion yesterday and look for stuff like birth defects so I stumbled upon a lot of these, but for sake of brevity search on google "cousins that are married" and go to the first wiki, there it already says that 10% of all marriages are between cousins of the first or second degree, that only talking about marriage, most people in an immediate family would hide such relationship, maybe because in their country it is illegal, maybe because their country is super religious or some other reason.
Edit: The main problem with trying to find this information is that incest is still viewed as a bad thing to many (you know colonists and religious pricks did a number on the world), so most of the information is biased and most of the incest mentions come from rape accusations and such, probably because people that are happy with it don't announce it to the world, but mostly because of bias.

Oh in Malaysia I think it's an everyday occurrence, and it's not consensual too. Even though It's not on the newspaper does not mean it didn't happen. There is a a guy who volunteers in helping families (normally the kids) that have this problem by guiding them to the proper authorities just because their parent(s) ignore their pleas and they have no where else to turn to. He updates his facebook often, and if all this get reported, I think the newspaper will need a while new section of its own titled "reported incest".

I don't think they can work as a surrogate family. He essentially just met them. And he has been treating all girls as potential lovers. Except with Cordia. With her, it was she the one that treat him as a lover more than a son.

What about Luna? I'm Luna loves him, just that she's shy and not sure how to go about it. Gracie is definitely treating him like a guinea pig. She's like a scientist looking at a white rat.

 

[Malicre]

What about Luna? I'm Luna loves him, just that she's shy and not sure how to go about it. Gracie is definitely treating him like a guinea pig. She's like a scientist looking at a white rat.

Luna is WAY more in love with him then anyone else and i'd say its scary almost to the point of being codependent and you don't see it yet but she would lose her shit if something happened to the mc. That's why iv always felt that Luna was the real route in this game. Don't get me wrong, i'm not even that big of a Luna fan as i personally like Isabel more but after playing through the game multiple times i just cannot see how this ends with a non luna/sisters/small harem route.

 

[Ayhsel]

What about Luna? I'm Luna loves him, just that she's shy and not sure how to go about it. Gracie is definitely treating him like a guinea pig. She's like a scientist looking at a white rat.

I am not sure I follow your question. Let me rephrase just to be sure.

What I meant is that the relationship between MC and the girls never looked to me like a family relationship, but more like a friend dealing with girls he might be interested. At least, it is clearly presented MC is attracted to them, not just with the teasing queen but also with the she-devils. They are childish and lack common sense (both of them), but they are aware they are girls, MC is a boy and there is something sexual going on.

Cordia is sligthly different, as she had given the image of a mother before her studio's scene. Well, maybe more like a matriarch but not mother, in the sense of a female figure in authority, which is precisely what she is, but never gave the feeling of romantically interest in MC. Honestly, she never gave the feeling to care about pretty much anything, more like everything is below her level of attention. But she did make it clear to MC she is not her mother and she is not treating him like a mother. That was how I interpreted the studio's scene with her. "You think I am your mother? Do you want me to be your mother?" followed by kiss, looked to me like she was showing MC a different kind of relationship going on.

All that of course is my understanding. I am confident that did not answer your question. So please, explain again?

 

[Malicre]

I am not sure I follow your question. Let me rephrase just to be sure.


Cordia is sligthly different, as she had given the image of a mother before her studio's scene. Well, maybe more like a matriarch but not mother, in the sense of a female figure in authority, which is precisely what she is, but never gave the feeling of romantically interest in MC.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, we do know she allowed him to snoop in her room and plant a recording device there which by all accounts would of been a death sentence to anyone else and we don't know if thats because of her relationship with his mom or if she has geniune feelings for him or for any other reason we don't know of.

Obviously i'm in the same camp you are in that regard, i just don't ever see how a cordia route would work and i dont even mind the age but shes way too high up on the totem pole for him to even be considered unless like i said they go the "full harem" route were he takes over as family head and gets all the main girls but for that to happen we would need years of content showing him working his way up the chain of command. I do think we will see the MC change Cordia and maybe unfreeze her heart but will it go further then that? only time will tell.

 

[TundraLupus]

Oh in Malaysia I think it's an everyday occurrence, and it's not consensual too. Even though It's not on the newspaper does not mean it didn't happen. There is a a guy who volunteers in helping families (normally the kids) that have this problem by guiding them to the proper authorities just because their parent(s) ignore their pleas and they have no where else to turn to. He updates his facebook often, and if all this get reported, I think the newspaper will need a while new section of its own titled "reported incest".

Yeah, but for the sake of not bumming people I tried to look for the consensual stuff and not the rape/abuse stuff, it is sad as fuck, but there are relationships that are not like that, the problem, as I said, is that people in those relationships don't announce it, normally, so I can't really find much information. But 10% is a good number, and I would define that in a population of what 7 billion? to be a daily occurrence if not daily at least common.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I am not sure I follow your question. Let me rephrase just to be sure.

What I meant is that the relationship between MC and the girls never looked to me like a family relationship, but more like a friend dealing with girls he might be interested. At least, it is clearly presented MC is attracted to them, not just with the teasing queen but also with the she-devils. They are childish and lack common sense (both of them), but they are aware they are girls, MC is a boy and there is something sexual going on.

Cordia is sligthly different, as she had given the image of a mother before her studio's scene. Well, maybe more like a matriarch but not mother, in the sense of a female figure in authority, which is precisely what she is, but never gave the feeling of romantically interest in MC. Honestly, she never gave the feeling to care about pretty much anything, more like everything is below her level of attention. But she did make it clear to MC she is not her mother and she is not treating him like a mother. That was how I interpreted the studio's scene with her. "You think I am your mother? Do you want me to be your mother?" followed by kiss, looked to me like she was showing MC a different kind of relationship going on.

All that of course is my understanding. I am confident that did not answer your question. So please, explain again?

I was thinking towards the line of how the characters treats MC and not how the MC treats the ladies. Maybe some misunderstanding there. If there is then it's my bad.

There are a few assumptions on my part regarding Cordia. Some of them being, whether Cordia knows MC's father, then subsequently she fell for MC's father and now sees the father's image in him, or whether she took in MC because of MC's mother and maybe her sisterly bond with the mother. My initial impression was because of the father, until the mother's history was revealed.

 

[Ayhsel]

I was thinking towards the line of how the characters treats MC and not how the MC treats the ladies. Maybe some misunderstanding there. If there is then it's my bad.

-Isabel treats MC as a woman a man, that is not under discussion, right?
-Luna is childish. Out of all the girls, she is the less sexual. But even before my name is luna, there were several scenarios where she acknowledges MC is a man and not a brother. The date, more than anything. (Almost a year since I read those scenes so I can be mistaken).
-Gracie is openly sexual with MC. While their behavior could be stated as friends with benefits, I don't think there is much to discuss here.

There are a few assumptions on my part regarding Cordia. Some of them being, whether Cordia knows MC's father, then subsequently she fell for MC's father and now sees the father's image in him, or whether she took in MC because of MC's mother and maybe her sisterly bond with the mother. My initial impression was because of the father, until the mother's history was revealed.

With Cordia all bets are off. So far we have too little to know what is in her head. I kind of dislike the idea that just the image of MC's parent could affect her romantic interest in MC. But it is true that with so little interaction, there is not much to explain the kiss. So for now, before making more guess, we might have to wait.

 

[Malicre]

With Cordia all bets are off. So far we have too little to know what is in her head. I kind of dislike the idea that just the image of MC's parent could affect her romantic interest in MC. But it is true that with so little interaction, there is not much to explain the kiss. So for now, before making more guess, we might have to wait.

Yup, i'm really starting to think that this whole game revolves around the MC "fixing" the family and making them "whole". Getting luna past her terrible experience, getting gracie to open up, helping isebel with her marriage and unfreezing cordia's frosty self.

The perfect ending to this game (at least in my opinion) would be having him "fix" them all which in the process makes them fall in love with him and then have him sacrifice himself to save cordia.

 

[SuperLYC]

Yup, i'm really starting to think that this whole game revolves around the MC "fixing" the family and making them "whole". Getting luna past her terrible experience, getting gracie to open up, helping isebel with her marriage and unfreezing cordia's frosty self.

The perfect ending to this game (at least in my opinion) would be having him "fix" them all which in the process makes them fall in love with him and then have him sacrifice himself to save cordia.

Jalen will be very angry if MC died protecting DeLuca family members, he already has warned them he will be there. So hope nothing bad happens to Mc in the end

 

[Malicre]

Jalen will be very angry if MC died protecting DeLuca family members, he already has warned them he will be there. So hope nothing bad happens to Mc in the end

I don't think Jalen would be that angry depending on how it plays out. Imagine if it was his mom or dad whos trying to kill cordia and he stands in their way. Jalen would be way more pissed off at them instead of the Deluca's.

 

[TundraLupus]

I don't think Jalen would be that angry depending on how it plays out. Imagine if it was his mom or dad whos trying to kill cordia and he stands in their way. Jalen would be way more pissed off at them instead of the Deluca's.

He probably would be at both, but I doubt Jalen's family will be that big of a treat, more likely it would be the 6 "something" from luna's past, Jalen's family feels more like one of the things that the Mc will participate and will prove himself by doing so.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Luna is WAY more in love with him then anyone else and i'd say its scary almost to the point of being codependent and you don't see it yet but she would lose her shit if something happened to the mc. That's why iv always felt that Luna was the real route in this game. Don't get me wrong, i'm not even that big of a Luna fan as i personally like Isabel more but after playing through the game multiple times i just cannot see how this ends with a non luna/sisters/small harem route.

-Isabel treats MC as a woman a man, that is not under discussion, right?
-Luna is childish. Out of all the girls, she is the less sexual. But even before my name is luna, there were several scenarios where she acknowledges MC is a man and not a brother. The date, more than anything. (Almost a year since I read those scenes so I can be mistaken).
-Gracie is openly sexual with MC. While their behavior could be stated as friends with benefits, I don't think there is much to discuss here.

Speaking of Isabel, I picked the NTR route. My dick says go for Isabel while my brain says "Stay the fuck away!" Like you said, so far she's the only one that really treats MC as a man and that's what attracted me to her. I blame HopesGaming for this. He purposely setup so that you fall into the Isabel trap first, next would be Luna (even though she's eccentric, that's why I love her, Malicre, she IS my main route) as she is now slowly in love with MC (especially after the knight in white armor scene). Gracie is still in the process of corruption, and Cordia is hinted to be next.

When you are done with all of them, shit will hit the fan. I believe Luna, Gracie and Cordia will find out about MC and Isabel, and they will annihilate him. Despite MC's show of bravado and how HopesGaming temporary closed Isabel's arc, I am scared shitless just thinking about how the DeLuca family will really react.