Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[AvatarStormBringer]

I am not sure I follow your question. Let me rephrase just to be sure.

What I meant is that the relationship between MC and the girls never looked to me like a family relationship, but more like a friend dealing with girls he might be interested. At least, it is clearly presented MC is attracted to them, not just with the teasing queen but also with the she-devils. They are childish and lack common sense (both of them), but they are aware they are girls, MC is a boy and there is something sexual going on.

Cordia is sligthly different, as she had given the image of a mother before her studio's scene. Well, maybe more like a matriarch but not mother, in the sense of a female figure in authority, which is precisely what she is, but never gave the feeling of romantically interest in MC. Honestly, she never gave the feeling to care about pretty much anything, more like everything is below her level of attention. But she did make it clear to MC she is not her mother and she is not treating him like a mother. That was how I interpreted the studio's scene with her. "You think I am your mother? Do you want me to be your mother?" followed by kiss, looked to me like she was showing MC a different kind of relationship going on.

All that of course is my understanding. I am confident that did not answer your question. So please, explain again?

I was thinking towards the line of how the characters treats MC and not how the MC treats the ladies. Maybe some misunderstanding there. If there is then it's my bad.

There are a few assumptions on my part regarding Cordia. Some of them being, whether Cordia knows MC's father, then subsequently she fell for MC's father and now sees the father's image in him, or whether she took in MC because of MC's mother and maybe her sisterly bond with the mother. My initial impression was because of the father, until the mother's history was revealed.

 

[Ayhsel]

I was thinking towards the line of how the characters treats MC and not how the MC treats the ladies. Maybe some misunderstanding there. If there is then it's my bad.

-Isabel treats MC as a woman a man, that is not under discussion, right?
-Luna is childish. Out of all the girls, she is the less sexual. But even before my name is luna, there were several scenarios where she acknowledges MC is a man and not a brother. The date, more than anything. (Almost a year since I read those scenes so I can be mistaken).
-Gracie is openly sexual with MC. While their behavior could be stated as friends with benefits, I don't think there is much to discuss here.

There are a few assumptions on my part regarding Cordia. Some of them being, whether Cordia knows MC's father, then subsequently she fell for MC's father and now sees the father's image in him, or whether she took in MC because of MC's mother and maybe her sisterly bond with the mother. My initial impression was because of the father, until the mother's history was revealed.

With Cordia all bets are off. So far we have too little to know what is in her head. I kind of dislike the idea that just the image of MC's parent could affect her romantic interest in MC. But it is true that with so little interaction, there is not much to explain the kiss. So for now, before making more guess, we might have to wait.

 

[Malicre]

With Cordia all bets are off. So far we have too little to know what is in her head. I kind of dislike the idea that just the image of MC's parent could affect her romantic interest in MC. But it is true that with so little interaction, there is not much to explain the kiss. So for now, before making more guess, we might have to wait.

Yup, i'm really starting to think that this whole game revolves around the MC "fixing" the family and making them "whole". Getting luna past her terrible experience, getting gracie to open up, helping isebel with her marriage and unfreezing cordia's frosty self.

The perfect ending to this game (at least in my opinion) would be having him "fix" them all which in the process makes them fall in love with him and then have him sacrifice himself to save cordia.

 

[SuperLYC]

Yup, i'm really starting to think that this whole game revolves around the MC "fixing" the family and making them "whole". Getting luna past her terrible experience, getting gracie to open up, helping isebel with her marriage and unfreezing cordia's frosty self.

The perfect ending to this game (at least in my opinion) would be having him "fix" them all which in the process makes them fall in love with him and then have him sacrifice himself to save cordia.

Jalen will be very angry if MC died protecting DeLuca family members, he already has warned them he will be there. So hope nothing bad happens to Mc in the end

 

[Malicre]

Jalen will be very angry if MC died protecting DeLuca family members, he already has warned them he will be there. So hope nothing bad happens to Mc in the end

I don't think Jalen would be that angry depending on how it plays out. Imagine if it was his mom or dad whos trying to kill cordia and he stands in their way. Jalen would be way more pissed off at them instead of the Deluca's.

 

[TundraLupus]

I don't think Jalen would be that angry depending on how it plays out. Imagine if it was his mom or dad whos trying to kill cordia and he stands in their way. Jalen would be way more pissed off at them instead of the Deluca's.

He probably would be at both, but I doubt Jalen's family will be that big of a treat, more likely it would be the 6 "something" from luna's past, Jalen's family feels more like one of the things that the Mc will participate and will prove himself by doing so.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Luna is WAY more in love with him then anyone else and i'd say its scary almost to the point of being codependent and you don't see it yet but she would lose her shit if something happened to the mc. That's why iv always felt that Luna was the real route in this game. Don't get me wrong, i'm not even that big of a Luna fan as i personally like Isabel more but after playing through the game multiple times i just cannot see how this ends with a non luna/sisters/small harem route.

-Isabel treats MC as a woman a man, that is not under discussion, right?
-Luna is childish. Out of all the girls, she is the less sexual. But even before my name is luna, there were several scenarios where she acknowledges MC is a man and not a brother. The date, more than anything. (Almost a year since I read those scenes so I can be mistaken).
-Gracie is openly sexual with MC. While their behavior could be stated as friends with benefits, I don't think there is much to discuss here.

Speaking of Isabel, I picked the NTR route. My dick says go for Isabel while my brain says "Stay the fuck away!" Like you said, so far she's the only one that really treats MC as a man and that's what attracted me to her. I blame HopesGaming for this. He purposely setup so that you fall into the Isabel trap first, next would be Luna (even though she's eccentric, that's why I love her, Malicre, she IS my main route) as she is now slowly in love with MC (especially after the knight in white armor scene). Gracie is still in the process of corruption, and Cordia is hinted to be next.

When you are done with all of them, shit will hit the fan. I believe Luna, Gracie and Cordia will find out about MC and Isabel, and they will annihilate him. Despite MC's show of bravado and how HopesGaming temporary closed Isabel's arc, I am scared shitless just thinking about how the DeLuca family will really react.

 

[Malicre]

Speaking of Isabel, I picked the NTR route. My dick says go for Isabel while my brain says "Stay the fuck away!" Like you said, so far she's the only one that really treats MC as a man and that's what attracted me to her. I blame HopesGaming for this. He purposely setup so that you fall into the Isabel trap first, next would be Luna (even though she's eccentric, that's why I love her, Malicre, she IS my main route) as she is now slowly in love with MC (especially after the knight in white armor scene). Gracie is still in the process of corruption, and Cordia is hinted to be next.

When you are done with all of them, shit will hit the fan. I believe Luna, Gracie and Cordia will find out about MC and Isabel, and they will annihilate him. Despite MC's show of bravado and how HopesGaming temporary closed Isabel's arc, I am scared shitless just thinking about how the DeLuca family will really react.

I don't think Cordia is next, i believe shes the final route which decides the ending. I'm also going with the assumption that there will also be a Cynthia route (thats her name right? i forgot, one of the 4 serpents) who will train our boy to become an even bigger presence within the family.

Wonder if hope reads these forums and laughs at all the crazy theories we come up with.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I don't think Cordia is next, i believe shes the final route which decides the ending. I'm also going with the assumption that there will also be a Cynthia route (thats her name right? i forgot, one of the 4 serpents) who will train our boy to become an even bigger presence within the family.

Wonder if hope reads these forums and laughs at all the crazy theories we come up with.

Cynthia is the roller skate girl? I don't mind her

As long as it does not get out of control like BaDIK, or Hope actually wants that?

 

[Malicre]

Cynthia is the roller skate girl? I don't mind her

As long as it does not get out of control like BaDIK, or Hope actually wants that?

Nope thats not cynthia, we haven't seen cynthia yet, we only heard that shes gracie and luna's teacher but shes been away on other things. Cynthia is a serpent and there were no serpents in that raid. You're thinking of caterina.

 

[SuperLYC]

Wonder if hope reads these forums and laughs at all the crazy theories we come up with.

Maybe he laughs at us for not being carzy enough

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

Nope thats not cynthia, we haven't seen cynthia yet, we only heard that shes gracie and luna's teacher but shes been away on other things. Cynthia is a serpent and there were no serpents in that raid. You're thinking of caterina.

Cordia, Cynthia, Caterina, I don't mind them all! All the Cs, COME!

 

[Ayhsel]

When you are done with all of them, shit will hit the fan.

I have been prophesying the biggest civil war since the times of Rome when it is time to pick a side. Although, Hopes kind of hinted that the sisters will never break apart, so there is also that.

That is not to say I am not expecting rivers of blood in this thread. It will be wonderful.

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

I have been prophesying the biggest civil war since the times of Rome when it is time to pick a side. Although, Hopes kind of hinted that the sisters will never break apart, so there is also that.

That is not to say I am not expecting rivers of blood in this thread. It will be wonderful.

The blood, MC's. Since the sisters will never break apart, they break MC apart, hence the river of blood. then the Ice Queen (?, forgot which icy cold term) will freeze it.

 

[JJJ84]

Speaking of Isabel, I picked the NTR route. My dick says go for Isabel while my brain says "Stay the fuck away!" Like you said, so far she's the only one that really treats MC as a man and that's what attracted me to her. I blame HopesGaming for this. He purposely setup so that you fall into the Isabel trap first, next would be Luna (even though she's eccentric, that's why I love her, Malicre, she IS my main route) as she is now slowly in love with MC (especially after the knight in white armor scene). Gracie is still in the process of corruption, and Cordia is hinted to be next.

When you are done with all of them, shit will hit the fan. I believe Luna, Gracie and Cordia will find out about MC and Isabel, and they will annihilate him. Despite MC's show of bravado and how HopesGaming temporary closed Isabel's arc, I am scared shitless just thinking about how the DeLuca family will really react.

For me, I think it's more to do with missing out content. I mean with Isabel, it's either Netori route (not NTR by the way, it's a common mistake people make [I used to be one of them also lol]) or friendship route, but with friendship route, we miss out one event. I mean I like Antonio too, but I just really like missing out on stuff. And unless Hopes makes friendship exclusive events, Netori route will always have more events than friendship events (though having said that, would friendship route exclusive events, if they occur, would they even be half as interesting as Netori events? Especially with Isabel being a teasing queen and all).

To be honest, I'm not sure how things would unfold when MC fully reaches full romance stage with each of the girls. Some wish for harem relationship with all the girls whereas some people don't, but I guess in the end it's up to Hopes to decides how to take their story with the MC when it reaches that point.

 

[Malicre]

For me, I think it's more to do with missing out content. I mean with Isabel, it's either Netori route (not NTR by the way, it's a common mistake people make [I used to be one of them also lol]) or friendship route, but with friendship route, we miss out one event. I mean I like Antonio too, but I just really like missing out on stuff. And unless Hopes makes friendship exclusive events, Netori route will always have more events than friendship events (though having said that, would friendship route exclusive events, if they occur, would they even be half as interesting as Netori events? Especially with Isabel being a teasing queen and all).

To be honest, I'm not sure how things would unfold when MC fully reaches full romance stage with each of the girls. Some wish for harem relationship with all the girls whereas some people don't, but I guess in the end it's up to Hopes to decides how to take their story with the MC when it reaches that point.

I don't mind if its harem or not, i just like the story but my issue with the story is that kinda feels like its wanting to go down a harem route as we specifically hear william talking to our boy about how cordia knows what hes doing with her "daughters" and not "daughter" and thats not mentioning that you do need to play both gracie and lunas routes to progress with the main plot. Now an argument could be made for a sister route vs isebel route since isebel's route isnt required due to there being a "friend option" but i don't see how the sisters could be split up knowing how the story is being told. They both love the MC and when you watch the scene with them chasing each other around as grown adults which mirrors the moments with them as kids i don't really think that picking one over the other is a good idea.

Honestly if it comes down to pick 1 sister over the other or choosing isabel id probably go with isabel just so i don't ruin that sisterhood but then again, we still have no idea when or if we are getting a cordia route.

 

[Cartageno]

Yeah, but for the sake of not bumming people I tried to look for the consensual stuff and not the rape/abuse stuff, it is sad as fuck, but there are relationships that are not like that, the problem, as I said, is that people in those relationships don't announce it, normally, so I can't really find much information. But 10% is a good number, and I would define that in a population of what 7 billion? to be a daily occurrence if not daily at least common.

If you're talking worldwide (when you say 7 billion people) this might be true. I thought you meant in western societies, like e. g. the one this game is set in, and - I assume - most of us live. That's why I asked about what region you're talking about. So we were talking about different stuff all along.

 

[TundraLupus]

If you're talking worldwide (when you say 7 billion people) this might be true. I thought you meant in western societies, like e. g. the one this game is set in, and - I assume - most of us live. That's why I asked about what region you're talking about. So we were talking about different stuff all along.

Not really, this is more differentiated by where is legal and illegal and the economical difference between countries, like people in the USA, won't admit to incest in some states because it is illegal, and also I think it is only legal in 5 countries in Europe, so in the end, the data is mostly from criminal changes(rape and abuse) or from countries/states where it is allowed, and even so 10% worldwide, is not a shabby number.
Edit: according to an article from 2015 in the USA about 0.2% of marriages where incest.
Edit2: Maybe because Brasil is third world, but, I know that my cousins(brother and sister) experimented together, once they even invited me, but I had a feeling we would get caught, and they were, I don't know if they continued it because it's been more than ten years since I talked to them, also my father I'm almost sure banged his sister( that after I was born).

 

[AvatarStormBringer]

For me, I think it's more to do with missing out content. I mean with Isabel, it's either Netori route (not NTR by the way, it's a common mistake people make [I used to be one of them also lol]) or friendship route, but with friendship route, we miss out one event. I mean I like Antonio too, but I just really like missing out on stuff. And unless Hopes makes friendship exclusive events, Netori route will always have more events than friendship events (though having said that, would friendship route exclusive events, if they occur, would they even be half as interesting as Netori events? Especially with Isabel being a teasing queen and all).

To be honest, I'm not sure how things would unfold when MC fully reaches full romance stage with each of the girls. Some wish for harem relationship with all the girls whereas some people don't, but I guess in the end it's up to Hopes to decides how to take their story with the MC when it reaches that point.

For the love of my life I cannot differentiate Netori VS NTR, As long as it has to do with taking someone's "legal possession" it's NTR to me and I try to avoid it as much as I can (Look who's talking )

I don't mind if its harem or not, i just like the story but my issue with the story is that kinda feels like its wanting to go down a harem route as we specifically hear william talking to our boy about how cordia knows what hes doing with her "daughters" and not "daughter" and thats not mentioning that you do need to play both gracie and lunas routes to progress with the main plot. Now an argument could be made for a sister route vs isebel route since isebel's route isnt required due to there being a "friend option" but i don't see how the sisters could be split up knowing how the story is being told. They both love the MC and when you watch the scene with them chasing each other around as grown adults which mirrors the moments with them as kids i don't really think that picking one over the other is a good idea.

Honestly if it comes down to pick 1 sister over the other or choosing isabel id probably go with isabel just so i don't ruin that sisterhood but then again, we still have no idea when or if we are getting a cordia route.

I will pick Luna over Isabel. Reasons being 1) see above 2) my main interest is Luna. But if Cordia become available.. hm... decisions decisions decisions...

Not really, this is more differentiated by where is legal and illegal and the economical difference between countries, like people in the USA, won't admit to incest in some states because it is illegal, and also I think it is only legal in 5 countries in Europe(1 completely legal 4 where only if it is second-degree cousin if I remember correctly), so in the end, the data is mostly from criminal changes(rape and abuse) or from countries/states where it is allowed, and even so 10% worldwide, is not a shabby number.

 

[Cartageno]

Not really, this is more differentiated by where is legal and illegal and the economical difference between countries, like people in the USA, won't admit to incest in some states because it is illegal, and also I think it is only legal in 5 countries in Europe(1 completely legal 4 where only if it is second-degree cousin if I remember correctly), so in the end, the data is mostly from criminal changes(rape and abuse) or from countries/states where it is allowed, and even so 10% worldwide, is not a shabby number.
Edit: according to an article from 2015 in the USA about 0.2% of marriages where incest.

Well, we can only talk about marriages as such, because simple family with benefit situations cannot reliably be traced. And I just found an interesting infographic between me posting and your answer which shows that in the muslim belt starting in Morocco and extending to and including India (despite not being majority Muslim) do have a high prevalence of 2nd cousin or closer marriages, up to 50% in Pakistan, but it being virtually nonexistent outside this sphere (caveat: only very limited data for non muslim Africa in said overview). In countries like the US, UK, Scandinavia, Russia and so on it is well below 1%, China also has "only" slightly above 1%. So concerning these "official" relationships, your 10% may be a tad high but in the correct order of magnitude when considered worldwide.

Of course, as has been said, nobody knows what happens in rural Utah when the law isn't looking and how many beards are around.