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HopesGaming

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Dec 21, 2017
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idk what I did but for some reason I can't get the sound of the running water from when you take Gracie to the bridge to meet her friends to stop. I tied redoing the event but it wont go away
Are you on 0.07.1?
 

kecaldw

Newbie
May 19, 2020
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how about they fix the part where you have to start all over. How about making previous saves work. Or make it to where you can make money faster and get your skills better. I kinda liked the old version where you could learn skills from books and the missions were better. Not this new cheesy retarded map system.
 
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Ishandul

Newbie
Jun 16, 2018
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Are the Holy Pants a "miss it and its gone" deal?
I've done the mission already but didnt get the pants the first time. On replays of the mission theres no option to get or place the flag again, just get the package from the marketplace and deliver it to the church.
 

Cartageno

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Dec 1, 2019
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Are the Holy Pants a "miss it and its gone" deal?
I've done the mission already but didnt get the pants the first time. On replays of the mission theres no option to get or place the flag again, just get the package from the marketplace and deliver it to the church.
They're not, I got them on a later playthrough. Have you upgraded to 0.7.1?
 

Sarkasmus

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May 4, 2020
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Are the Holy Pants a "miss it and its gone" deal?
I've done the mission already but didnt get the pants the first time. On replays of the mission theres no option to get or place the flag again, just get the package from the marketplace and deliver it to the church.
Quite the opposite. Looks like you can get all the special equipment multiple times, with different qualities. I just got a second Fedora, that has better stats than the first one I got.
 

Pendrell

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Apr 10, 2020
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Huge fan of the game, undoubtedly a work of art in my view and very excited to see the update released and the progress Hopes has made. Have to say though I'm not wild about the new missions.

The concept is good and I'm not opposed to the idea of needing to do more to succeed than was required in the previous version. But as others have said, the grind is real and the success/failure balance is off in the early game. It's just a little too unforgiving to be fun, in my view. Succeeding at an early contract is tough because you don't have money to buy the equipment you need or the necessary xp (failing on charisma, intelligence, stealth etc). I imagine that your luck does improve as you level up, as it did with the previous version, but because the game-time spent doing a contract is much greater, the frustration at failing one is magnified. The fact that failure also means losing mission points that then have to be replaced (costing money) just makes the experience a bit too demanding. I'd be tempted to bypass them entirely after my first sample, except for the fact that it seems there is some visual content in there that would be missed. (I saw some of it and then...failed the contract, so missed the rest).

Just my thoughts but some possible adjustments might be to: only make contracts available after a certain experience level has been reached, or make the success threshold lower, (both of these are really saying the same thing - make them easier), or introduce a more reliable way of earning money, so the cost of contract failure isn't so high.

However it remains a fantastic game, I love the improved visuals and new scenes I've seen so far, and wish nothing but good things for the dev.
 

Zirael Q

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Aug 28, 2017
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Are the Holy Pants a "miss it and its gone" deal?
I've done the mission already but didnt get the pants the first time. On replays of the mission theres no option to get or place the flag again, just get the package from the marketplace and deliver it to the church.
Purposely lower either your intelligence or charisma to fail one of the stats. Go get the flag, plant it and choose "screw this". Go back to the church and explore
 

Gamesstar

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Game Developer
Jul 3, 2019
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I am playing the 0.07.1 version, but there is no gun in the shop.....plz help.
 

Odin Eye Patch

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Aug 9, 2018
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ok ive played all the old content i chose the story only at the beginning now Wilfred is asking if i got a gun on this mode how do you do that ? is this bugged
 

whichone

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Jan 3, 2018
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Are the Holy Pants a "miss it and its gone" deal?
I've done the mission already but didnt get the pants the first time. On replays of the mission theres no option to get or place the flag again, just get the package from the marketplace and deliver it to the church.
Can I ask, just doing that mission now & I've not seen the Flag.
Went to the market and was able to collect the parcel for the sisters, but no clue on how to get the flag for the NW area?
 

Ishandul

Newbie
Jun 16, 2018
40
61
Purposely lower either your intelligence or charisma to fail one of the stats. Go get the flag, plant it and choose "screw this". Go back to the church and explore
This worked, I had been skipping the opening dialogue and totally missed the stat checks being passed. Unequipped all my gear and did the mission again. Stat checks fail and I got the option to do the flag part again.
Thank you Zirael Q
 

TundraLupus

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Apr 8, 2020
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Huge fan of the game, undoubtedly a work of art in my view and very excited to see the update released and the progress Hopes has made. Have to say though I'm not wild about the new missions.

The concept is good and I'm not opposed to the idea of needing to do more to succeed than was required in the previous version. But as others have said, the grind is real and the success/failure balance is off in the early game. It's just a little too unforgiving to be fun, in my view. Succeeding at an early contract is tough because you don't have money to buy the equipment you need or the necessary xp (failing on charisma, intelligence, stealth etc). I imagine that your luck does improve as you level up, as it did with the previous version, but because the game-time spent doing a contract is much greater, the frustration at failing one is magnified. The fact that failure also means losing mission points that then have to be replaced (costing money) just makes the experience a bit too demanding. I'd be tempted to bypass them entirely after my first sample, except for the fact that it seems there is some visual content in there that would be missed. (I saw some of it and then...failed the contract, so missed the rest).

Just my thoughts but some possible adjustments might be to: only make contracts available after a certain experience level has been reached, or make the success threshold lower, (both of these are really saying the same thing - make them easier), or introduce a more reliable way of earning money, so the cost of contract failure isn't so high.

However it remains a fantastic game, I love the improved visuals and new scenes I've seen so far, and wish nothing but good things for the dev.
I'll say that I actually agree with most if not all you said, a good way to mitigate the money problem would be to get more of it on the main/side quest that is not contracts, at least enough so you don't need to actually do contracts for any reason besides actually progressing the story, that way you could progress side/main quests and gain attribute points that way, that is my idea at least, probably has a lot of holes in it though
 
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Arassei

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May 28, 2019
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Heya,

That was an interresting update.
I'm not a fan of the text-based combat in general, but this one was well done (some bugs but it will be fixed eventually).
Maybe give another choice of color for the background of these text-based combats would be a good idea, because white writting on black background is quite exhausting for the eyes.
At first I thought it was a bit of a shame that the rescue mission was like a normal contract, but then I thought "why not, it's pretty easy to do".

But there is something I didn't understand about the story.
Why does everyone think the MC is weak ?
If it was at the beginning of the story, okay nobody knows him, but then he saves Luna, he captures Eiza, he becomes a Soldato, etc...
He has certain feats.
Was it really worth humiliating him like that ?

I think it will be pretty easy to have sex with Caterina, you just need to offer her a giant poster of Cordia, and she will be yours forever.

Also, isn't Gracie some kind of psychotic/psychopath girl ?

Good job Dev.
 
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Cartageno

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Dec 1, 2019
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Can I ask, just doing that mission now & I've not seen the Flag.
Went to the market and was able to collect the parcel for the sisters, but no clue on how to get the flag for the NW area?
You should be able to buy it (for $50) at the market via the interact.
 
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