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whichone

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i chose the story only mode so i have to ask does she appear in the contracts from Walter she just shows up and is like Hi MC long time no see let me suck your pecker it very confusing
Yes, she is in one of the contracts (from Wilfred ;)). (y)
Also, use spoilers, just in case someone missed the first line! lol I know, but you'd be surprised. :ROFLMAO:
 
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SecretSal

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Still getting a feel for the new contracts system. It's a bit jarring as the feel and flow is completely different from the main game. The old system pretty much resolved the contract with a single click, so while it wasn't a particularly deep system, it didn't get in the way either. I can appreciate the modular nature of the new system, and some of the flavour it adds. Just unsure so far whether this is the optimal delivery mechanism. It's in a place right now where the presentation makes it feel like it's less important than the main game, but if you don't pay as much attention (or more) than you do in the main game, you get punished. Not a fan of the decision to prevent rollback during missions, either. Don't have to go so oldschool that you're actively trying to prevent save scumming. Not sure about specific ways to improve the experience yet, and skeptical that suggestions would be very useful, considering the time it took to develop the current system.

One suggestion that comes a little too late is - if you're making a game update that breaks all the saves, why not change the name of the save folder in the options, so that the player has a clean slate in the game, and isn't stuck with several pages of broken saves instead?
 

MysteryCrabs

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The fact that passing a mission with 100% success does not provide reward, but passing it with a failure being necessary to gain the reward, quite specifically, makes it a reward for failure.
This is the last time I will say this: nothing related to those "failed checks" are part of the mission objectives. None of them. You 100% the mission by delivering the package. You unlock an easter egg by taking a specific set of steps that are outside the mission and are rewarded with special equipment.
 
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whichone

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This is the last time I will say this: nothing related to those "failed checks" are part of the mission objectives. None of them. You 100% the mission by delivering the package. You unlock an easter egg by taking a specific set of steps that are outside the mission and are rewarded with special equipment.
No-one said anything about failing the mission. Once again you're arguing against something that was never said.
I quite specifically said failing interactions.
You must fail the interaction, to gain the reward.
You can dress it up as an easter egg, or whatever term you wish. It's the shown mission reward, yet it's a reward only gained by failing something, so it's a reward for failure.
I'm sorry you seem unable to interpret this, but that's it. It's as simple as that.

100% success on all interactions = no reward.
90% success/10% failure = reward. (hypothetical %)
You only gain the reward, if you fail the interaction.
If failure is the key to receiving the reward, then it is a reward for failure.

As there is no reward for 100% success (passing all interactions), it would make more sense for this to be what we get the reward for.
Complete the mission to the highest possible standard, to receive the reward/easter-egg.
That would be intuitive.
It would also be the same as the others, they are intuitive, where you need high enough Perception for the old man to appear & you need high enough Charisma to succeed with Bikini Girl. This one you need to have low stats to fail, not high stats to succeed. Hence counter-intuitive.
 
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lolgotem

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your about right this pc is at least 25 years old ... lmao ... i just need to save some cash up to buy a video card for it
Bro you need to just replace it. You can probably find a free laptop on Craigslist significantly more powerful than a 25 year old PC.

I'd be surprised if you can even find a GFX card compatible with a 25 year old board
 

kekker

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For some reason gallery doesn't seem to work for me other than that I'm just glad the game is finally getting an update and for those of you who don't want to start a new save just to see 2 new scenes here's all of my saves I played on the free roam and story only version so if you wanted to actually do the minigames you can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Wisblade

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Well, there are technical aspects which can be overcome but sometimes an old save wouldn't also make sense anymore if the story and/or mechanics change. Add a new stat - what should you use as a value for some advanced player? A storyline has been broken up or fused so the point the old save was in just does not exist anymore. Place where you are has been taken out completely. (This is generally speaking, not all of it applies to this specific game.) So sometimes an "import old save" wouldn't work.

Just one of the risks of following a game in development pre alpha - nothing is set in stone. Even more so, the more gameplay is involved instead of "just" telling a story. It is different from playing a game and then having content added through DLCs or similar. I hate redoing stuff as much as the next guy, but it is a risk I am willing to take for the experience of watching the game grow. It's a personal decision whether you prefer it this way or want to wait until a game releases. But I guess you cannot have your cake and eat it too here, at least the risk is there.
I agree on this when the game is changed "a lot", for example when a grinding system is added where there was none before. But here, we already had the grinding part - was annoying enough to get all stuff with so poorly paid missions - and a free roaming part.

The problem is more tied to Python: such breaks are way too frequents with Python-based stuff. And while Ren'Py COULD have handled that, it doesn't and it's annoying too. That's why I spoke about an external tool: you use it simply to import the old save, complete the missing parts either with mean values and/or by asking questions and you save the converted file ready to be used.

But you need framework's assistance to do so, at least by having a "save" module with all variables. To be honest, I still don't understand why - while a savefile is a compressed archive - there is still a binary file as main data... It could be an XML file, or a JSON, but no: it's a freaking binary file, the thing that pollute computing since computers are a thing.
 
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Samsagce27

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A fine one this is, really hope the Dev would up their release rate though...a little short of 3 years since first release and we are still on few kisses, a BJ and a scene from a non main girl....even for a fine story like this it is kinda lame :p

Love the contract play, I found it a nice balance to the VN, already love the MC development even if the best is clearly to come...

But I am clearly not willing this game to be at some 0.1.4 in 2024....seriously.
 

Amino 4567

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Okay I tried to do the contract but everytime I fail. Can any one tell me how to success on the first contract!!
 

puttapablo

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The update is underwhelming only because the story has so much potential. Good luck to Hopes gaming. I hope that you can take this story to the conclusion it deserves.
 
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