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ut1stgear1

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Stoked about finally having this reworked update. Haven't started playing it yet, finishing up another game. I am seeing 90-95% positive remarks about it though. I have yet to use the skip feature in Renpy for any game, sandbox or otherwise. If I like a game I will put up with the grind until it gets in the way of enjoying it, no matter how many times I have to restart. Just the way I like to do it so I can play it the way the DEV intended. BTW Reading this thread has taken more time than the game will and that was using the "skip" feature in F95--the middle scroll button on my mouse. :cool:
 

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Did you ever read the first page ????? You need to restart the game, none compatibility with old save

hi guy, what is the better choice for the gameplay Cam or audio recorder ? I know cam is for more graphics but for maximasine the point what is the better choice ?
i mean a new save from v0.07 that start from the end of v0.06
 

Hellkinglucifer

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Well we're talking about this with the assumption that "Serpent" is Rina's ex-fiance aren't we?

What MC's basically asking to Cordia here is whether that man seen hugging Rina in the photo (i.e. Rina's ex-fiance) is his father (biological ) or not, in which she said no.
Afterwards, he asked whether Cordia is his actual mom, and she replies Rina will always be his biological mom.

So it would basically conflict with established lore to have "Serpent" as MC's biological father.
"Serpent" basically hates MC's father (which was evident in his first meet with MC), and even Cordia notes that MC looks so much like his father (in her character bio in the beginning of the game).
Both cases just won't make sense if "Serpent" ends up being MC's real father, as well as contradicting what Cordia said to MC, as I said before.

What I think likely happened is, after MC's actual (biological) father abandoned him when he was so young, time and time again "Serpent" came to visit Rina (my guess is even though everything that happened with Rina calling off the engagement, he continued to love her, and continues to love her even to this day), and became fond of MC in his own way.
That's how I think MC has some memories of "Serpent" from his childhood (saying his voice feels familiar, soothing). Not because he is MC's biological father, but because he acted more of a father towards MC than his real father did himself.
Come on man help me there i'm just trying to make it like MC didn't get the worse luck ever with 2 crappy parents. Serpent is definitely being set up to be a father like figure for mc and given that Mc father is still alive and working in the mafia world there will clearly some kind of face off.
 

Drakan47

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Well we're talking about this with the assumption that "Serpent" is Rina's ex-fiance aren't we?
No, in fact iirc at one point (conversation between Cordia and Giacobbe I believe) it's mentioned the original serpents (the ones in that picture) turned on Cordia, it wouldn't make much sense for one of them to then rejoin the new serpents

"Serpent" basically hates MC's father (which was evident in his first meet with MC)
Specifically he mentions this in the context of MC having his father's face, this coming from the person who's defining trait is an effort to conceal his own (to the point of shooting people over it), it wouldn't be too out of left field for the "big reveal" being set up to be "I hate my own face because seeing it reminds me of *insert greatest regret*"
 

JJJ84

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Come on man help me there i'm just trying to make it like MC didn't get the worse luck ever with 2 crappy parents. Serpent is definitely being set up to be a father like figure for mc and given that Mc father is still alive and working in the mafia world there will clearly some kind of face off.
lol don't know about you, but I actually don't even mind even if MC got stuck with 2 bad biological parents.
I love flawed characters, and MC having parents issues adds layers to his character to explore.

So for me, "Serpent" being a father-like figure to MC (with MC's biological father somewhere out there still) works best. Both of them have a lot of baggage and burden on them, and despite their rocky start (after the Straffan meeting), them finding that emotional connection to somehow connect through the Stealth mission (even though they're probably not blood related) did feel like one of the highlights of this update.
 

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lol don't know about you, but I actually don't even mind even if MC got stuck with 2 bad biological parents.
I love flawed characters, and MC having parents issues adds layers to his character to explore.

So for me, "Serpent" being a father-like figure to MC (with MC's biological father somewhere out there still) works best. Both of them have a lot of baggage and burden on them, and despite their rocky start (after the Straffan meeting), them finding that emotional connection to somehow connect through the Stealth mission (even though they're probably not blood related) did feel like one of the highlights of this update.
100% with you here Serpent and MC interaction was the best past of the mission. Mc reaction to serpent calling him weak in their numerous interaction is funny and ironic considering mc purposely makes himself look weak. Another Highlight is when that man(don't remember his name Gil something) explains to the other capo how mc relishes being underrated and considered weak.
 
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JJJ84

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No, in fact iirc at one point (conversation between Cordia and Giacobbe I believe) it's mentioned the original serpents (the ones in that picture) turned on Cordia, it wouldn't make much sense for one of them to then rejoin the new serpents
I don't see why not. Yes, I'm aware that the Serpents turned on Cordia (played through the entire game without fast ctrl skip with the recent update), but that doesn't mean it rules that out.

So far, in the photo MC discovers, there's:

- Cordia
- person with his face burnt off in the photo (my guess, MC's biological father)
- Rina
- Rina's ex-fiance (likely "Serpent")

Even with the rest of Serpents turning on Cordia, there's multiple possibilities of what could have happened. Rina's ex-fiance might have changed sides in the middle of the conflict, or he could have been captured in the end.

Whatever the case the conflict played out, it could very much be that Rina's ex-fiance could have gotten in a situation where he got in "Contract for life" situation, and forced to serve the DeLucas till the day he dies, and he hides his face partly in shame for his betrayal, and partly to conceal his true identity from others (atoning for his sins against the Family for his past betrayal by serving the Family).
And his skills are so great that Cordia and Wilfred can't help but acknowledge him as one of the new Serpents.

I can see that happening.

But of course, we won't know until the past is revealed.


Specifically he mentions this in the context of MC having his father's face, this coming from the person who's defining trait is an effort to conceal his own (to the point of shooting people over it), it wouldn't be too out of left field for the "big reveal" being set up to be "I hate my own face because seeing it reminds me of *insert greatest regret*"
Hiding his own face could be just due to that he could have possibly betrayed Cordia, but that doesn't necessarily need to have connection with MC being his biological son.

I mean, sure I'm not gonna 100% dismiss that possibility (cause in the end, Hopes will reveal how it all came to be), but my feeling is, whenever he sees MC's face, he sees the man who took his love away from him more than anything, and that pain and anger towards MC's biological father is what I think resulted in "Serpent"'s reaction in their first meeting (somewhat similar to what happened in "The Boys" tv series from Prime Video:
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Hellkinglucifer

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No, in fact iirc at one point (conversation between Cordia and Giacobbe I believe) it's mentioned the original serpents (the ones in that picture) turned on Cordia, it wouldn't make much sense for one of them to then rejoin the new serpents


Specifically he mentions this in the context of MC having his father's face, this coming from the person who's defining trait is an effort to conceal his own (to the point of shooting people over it), it wouldn't be too out of left field for the "big reveal" being set up to be "I hate my own face because seeing it reminds me of *insert greatest regret*"
Giacobbe said the original serpents turned on Cordia but that doesn't mean everyone of them did. Like JJJ84 i also believe that burned face in the picture is the mc 'father'. It could be that he betrayed Cordia and Rina choose her husband over her best friend, 'Serpent' didn't interfere because he couldn't go after the love of his life. There you have it all of them betrayed Cordia for different reasons.
 
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That would be debatable if his mother was not shown preparing for events such as poisoning (its only one reference) but who knows what other scenarios she foresaw to prepare him for.
Added to his attitude towards I'd think she basically prepared him to be a serpent himself and he didn't like a second of it.
 

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Guys, parents don't give their traits to their kids that way. I had two awesome parents and now I am analyzing Mafia Porn Games in a shady forum with some shady people ;)
Sorry to break it to you man but your life was fake and it wouldn't surprise me if both your parents have accounts on his site. Who knows maybe you already interacted with one of them :ROFLMAO:
 

JJJ84

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So basically people in the Family who knows who MC really is (and why he's important/essential to the DeLucas):

- Cordia
- Wilfred
- Antonio (even though he's like the last to know out of everybody in this group lol)
- "Serpent" (probably only one out of the current Serpents who really knows who MC is)
- Gildart ("Captain" of Wilfred's Division, as well as Wilfred's best student)

I'm somehow getting the feeling this list will stop here.
Any more than these 5, and it might come to the point where too many in the Family know everything about the MC for it to be a closely guarded secret.

Though I could be wrong also.
 
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I have a question, how do you obtain rank s in the first mission when you fight the man who is hurting the girl?
Basically just high enough stats to pass the tests and correct decisions (def/eva on first and third, atk on second and fourth). However, there is a script bug so you can only get it on your first encounter with the guy.

Somebody posted a corrected rpy somewhere in this thread but damned if I could find it.
 
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JJJ84

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I have a question, how do you obtain rank s in the first mission when you fight the man who is hurting the girl?
I obtained the S rank by getting a flawless victory (didn't get any damage whatsoever, had higher stats. had the best equipment possible etc), but to be honest, I don't know what the minimum requirements are.

Getting the S rank will get you a special render (if I remember correctly, of Cordia and Gracie)
 
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JJJ84

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Still can't find the gun in last mission on android port :")
Did you go to collect the Soldado package (which includes the clothes, and Soldado pistol) at the park with Luna by speaking to Wilfred at the boss's entrance (after promotion event with Blackie)?

That's what I forgot to do, and solved it for me.
 

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So basically people in the Family who knows who MC really is (and why he's important/essential to the DeLucas):

- Cordia
- Wilfred
- Antonio (even though he's like the last to know out of everybody in this group lol)
- "Serpent" (probably only one out of the current Serpents who really knows who MC is)
- Gildart ("Captain" of Wilfred's Division, as well as Wilfred's best student)

I'm somehow getting the feeling this list will stop here.
Any more than these 5, and it might come to the point where too many in the Family know everything about the MC for it to be a closely guarded secret.

Though I could be wrong also.
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