Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[JJJ84]

One thing that I was a little bit surprised, with the aftermath of the Ombra Family Stealth mission (aka "Eiza's sister rescue mission):

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But it's not stated that he's part of the Family. Who he is, is left very ambiguous (if I'm remembering that contract correctly). While it could be possible he could be like Vincent (retired Capo who we see in Isabel's event), nothing is confirmed yet.
There's a chance, he could be a part of DeLucas, but there's also chance he could be not.

The 5 that I listed, are basically confirmed DeLuca Family members, who are also confirmed to know everything about the MC.

 

[jaw1986baby]

So I liked the re-renders in early game
Liked replaying all the ladies (I got as lewd as possible with Cordia, Isabelle, Gracie, and Luna)
Liked the new stuff (Eiza is sexy and so is her sister, and Eiza fucks so THANKS
Though it was weird to have the text mission mix into the very VN feel of the rescue.

As to the new missions: Mixed bag
--This is way more interesting than the old super simple pass / fail
--I do not mind the text so I can Zork my way to stealing or stealthing etc.
--It was nice to have some special renders as a reward (though that still works a bit wonky and I am having trouble with getting them all)
--It was interesting to pop into a bit of VN style content for sexy ladies

--The rewards like rare this and that were sometimes odd, as mentioned getting the pants through failing an attribute check ONLY, or somehow I can never get the rare gloves or the BP Vest. I had to edit my nimble fingers to award those to me for simply stealing the jacket since I gave up trying.
--Not having a mention of attributes that may be checked like charisma so we know to maybe adjust our gear versus this mission wants threat and offense (not as mission required but mentioned as optional in the description)
--As others have said maybe something simpler than nimble fingers for start like delivery boy (This would be good because failing early should be done in that one)
--There is no way to save in mission when you see a new pretty face and want to save (And I finally had the needed CHA)

So since the mission part is minor and able to be skipped it does not detract from an overall good game.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to create it and letting us poor boys get our hands on it for free

 

[JJJ84]

--There is no way to save in mission when you see a new pretty face and want to save (And I finally had the needed CHA)

I actually would have loved to save

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Too bad there are no option to save for these Contracts.

 

[Boehmi]

But it's not stated that he's part of the Family.

That is right. But if he isn´t Part of the Fam than he is not a Enemy.
If he would be an Enemy

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had killed him,

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Cuz he know so much that if he would like to he could be really dangerous for us.

 

[jaw1986baby]

Ohh also I did want to suggest:

Do the ladies quests first as the points can help on the missions.

Isabel needs Gracie to go past a certain step and they all need main story III to go to step 2
So do the side mission of The Contract for some cash
do some missions and Main Story to get III completed
Then do all Gracie
Then do all Isabel
Then do all Luna

I felt it was nice to see the story for each girl all at once like this but it is just my suggestion.

 

[JJJ84]

Ohh also I did want to suggest:

Do the ladies quests first as the points can help on the missions.

Isabel needs Gracie to go past a certain step and they all need main story III to go to step 2
So do the side mission of The Contract for some cash
do some missions and Main Story to get III completed
Then do all Gracie
Then do all Isabel
Then do all Luna

I felt it was nice to see the story for each girl all at once like this but it is just my suggestion.

What I did was first start off with doing some of the Contracts first to build up some money. Then use that money to pay off some essentials for the girls early events first.

Each of the girls need quite a bit of money to be invested in (for Luna, pants with holes for Gracie, for Gracie, MC's clothes for dancing sessions, for Isabel, at least 2 times to buy her wine, and not to mention there's added cost of the camera/recorder).

With a little bit of grind, and equipment rewards gained from Contracts, by the time Beach Prison event is reached, the player's MC will gain extra money from the event itself as well as the Promotion.
This makes it easier to redo the Contracts and ace them to succeed in the parts where the player may have failed before.

Then having already completed all the girls events which their prerequisites are beach prison event, I finished off the rest of them in following order:

- all Gracie's & Luna's free-roam (except my name is Luna event)
- all Isabel's free-roam (most of Isabel's events requires the player to finish off Gracie's events beforehand)

Then I went on to play more main story & main events until I finished "The Kaskar Family" & "I will protect you", in which after wards I finished Luna's "My name is Luna" event.
After that, finished off all the main story, as well as some old main events (like "Portend")

When that was done, only events that were left were "What is Weak is actually strong" & "Unofficial boss" main events, i.e. the new content, and all done.

Playing it this way I think was an enjoyable experience, though I think everybody will play it differently depending on their preferences.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

It's obvious that Luna was not happy that she got excluded being with MC by Cordia and Wilfred by them having her be distracted with a separate mission. She takes her anger out on Cordia & Wilfred (well Cordia, mostly, since Wilfred just shut her down). That was a good addition for Luna's character arc, even though her presence was pretty limited in the new events.

But it does make me question, why Gracie wasn't there to complain as well. Given the penchant of her starting to act more rebelliously and join missions against Cordia's wishes (i.e. Straffan mission), I would have thought she would have noticed MC went to a mission without her knowing even after the Stealth mission was completed (and the fact is, the aftermath event actually takes 2 weeks after the actual mission. That's more than enough time for Gracie to figure everything out).

Would have thought she at least would have made a case to Cordia or Wilfred like Luna did.

I think the reason is Luna had an alliby to present in the room, Gracie didnt. And while Luna openly defies the orders of the family to some extend Gracie did that only one time for show off her talents. Being present in that event wont have obvious rewards but many possibilities of angering family, so why should she attend?

But it's not stated that he's part of the Family. Who he is, is left very ambiguous (if I'm remembering that contract correctly). While it could be possible he could be like Vincent (retired Capo who we see in Isabel's event), nothing is confirmed yet.
There's a chance, he could be a part of DeLucas, but there's also chance he could be not.

The 5 that I listed, are basically confirmed DeLuca Family members, who are also confirmed to know everything about the MC.

He basically said he is the one who "created contract situation" and many other siblings of MC from different mothers. I think he is either DeLuca or from Pacifitoris who is trying to help DeLucas Besides and apart from family Blackie was know who is MC, he said something like "you are a free spirit like your father". So pacifitoris knows about MCs past is verry likely.

 

[Scarecrow13]

Wait...

Spoiler: A certain girl

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[Scarecrow13]

I'm amazed at how well this game could translate to a big studio VG release.

An unknown youth - but soon clearly someone of some lineage - enters a hostage contract with one of the 5 big families, 'hostage', albeit favored. He (or she!) is given access, a fair amount of freedom, and is clearly being groomed for command.

- Does he marry one of the DeLuca girls and achieve a co-management of a Great Family? (since Antonio clearly isn't going to make end-game!)...or gain status, but then cold-bloodedly eliminate the family and step in to pick up the pieces?
- Does he romance a Scorpion Princess and work with her to 1) take over the Ombra family, then 2) advance them to the Big Five?
- Do the DeLuca's set him up in his own territory, either by knocking out one of the minor families, or handing over the territory they got from the Fazio Apology? Then he connives and works to become a major family, and maybe even a top 5? With the DeLuca's gaining a powerful ally for their support?
- Does Jalen's family co-opt him and turn him into a mole. Do he and Jalen do a buddy movie a la Thor/Korg and take over the whole Criminal enterprise?
- Does he reconcile with his parents and become a free agent?

There are plenty of other options, I'm sure.

The gameplay would have to be expanded, like move from a lot of the text in the missions into, say, active or team management. Resource management. An active diplomatic function. Customizable character (select traits/training gained from his Snake mom and father - unknown, but obviously not a nobody)

He has powerful potential patrons/allies: the Delucas, Jalen's family, a Snake mother, unknown Father, Mr. High-Five.

Regardless, this has vastly more potential than any of the 'Mafia' titles that have been released over the years. And, frankly, is fantastic in its own right in this venue. Hats off to the creators!

 

[whichone]

Wait...

Spoiler: A certain girl

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We do not meet Siobhan, The Scorpion Princess, until the final mission of the current content.
She's the one who looks like Lagertha, that we meet during the rescue mission.
The girl from the first contract is just called Bikini Girl.

 

[JJJ84]

I think the reason is Luna had an alliby to present in the room, Gracie didnt. And while Luna openly defies the orders of the family to some extend Gracie did that only one time for show off her talents. Being present in that event wont have obvious rewards but many possibilities of angering family, so why should she attend?

Well, of course Luna's official position is a Capo, and MC is a Soldado. But that to Gracie, I don't think really matters (given she basically came into the Don's office without permission while Cordia, Wilfred and Antonio were questioning Trino which later ended with his execution, with MC watching).

So unless they had people guarding the room or the meeting was done behind locked doors, Gracie would have just came in to interrupt and make her complaints no problem (and it's not a stretch to think that given Cordia to some extent spoiled the girls, and there was clear lack of punishment).

And even if that is the case (i.e. meeting held behind guards or locked doors), I kinda expected some degree of annoyance at least from Gracie to Wilfred or Cordia complaining once the report meeting concluded if I'm honest (even if it's outside of the actual meeting itself).

But shrugs, that's just me. Perhaps she might say something in the next update to reference it.
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[whichone]

Well, of course Luna's official position is a Capo, and MC is a Soldado. But that to Gracie, I don't think really matters (given she basically came into the Don's office without permission while Cordia, Wilfred and Antonio were questioning Trino which later ended with his execution, with MC watching).

She also came in after the guy had been executed and didn't bat an eyelid at the dead body.
I also think that she would walk in, if she wanted to.
Unless Cordia had explicitly ordered them out and there were other Family heads in the meeting.
There was just no reason for her to, nothing to gain, so she didn't.

A lot of people have been wondering about Cordia content, for the next update.
I wonder if MC will make a start on fixing her's & Luna's relationship....

 

[JJJ84]

A lot of people have been wondering about Cordia content, for the next update.
I wonder if MC will make a start on fixing her's & Luna's relationship....

lol I can sort of see a lot of people rioting with pitchforks if we don't get Cordia content, especially with that tease Wilfred gave in "Portend"

 

[whichone]

lol I can sort of see a lot of people rioting with pitchforks if we don't get Cordia content, especially with that tease Wilfred gave in "Portend"

lol I can see it now! Run for the hils!!!
Talking of Cordia, I know I've gained a couple of hearts for her, but can't see anyway of viewing how many.
The "?" section calls them RP, but there's no stat for this that I can see, for any of the girls.

 

[JJJ84]

lol I can see it now! Run for the hils!!!
Talking of Cordia, I know I've gained a couple of hearts for her, but can't see anyway of viewing how many.
The "?" section calls them RP, but there's no stat for this that I can see, for any of the girls.

I wanted to post a Simpsons rioting gif, but kinda wary Mods will try and remove the whole post lol

All I can remember with her are the following:

+1 RP if you reply to Cordia "I've been treated well" when she asks you at the initial Family breakfast
+1 RP (at Cordia's office) when you decide to sacrifice yourself for Luna and Gracie at Beach Prison event
+1 RP when MC gives the whole "loyalty is not given blindly, it is earned speech" to Eiza, with Cordia and Wilfred present

Don't remember there being others, especially there aren't any Cordia events yet.

 

[whichone]

I wanted to post a Simpsons rioting gif, but kinda wary Mods will try and remove the whole post lol

All I can remember with her are the following:

+1 RP if you reply to Cordia "I've been treated well" when she asks you at the initial Family breakfast
+1 RP (at Cordia's office) when you decide to sacrifice yourself for Luna and Gracie at Beach Prison event
+1 RP when MC gives the whole "loyalty is not given blindly, it is earned speech" to Eiza, with Cordia and Wilfred present

Don't remember there being others, especially there aren't any Cordia events yet.

lol I used the WT from the OP again to make sure I got them all.
Just figured there would be somewhere to see the current count, for each girl. I know their picture changes, the more we get.
Just seems odd to not have a displayed amount gained, particularly when the "?" section makes specific mention of them.
There's a whole section devoted to RP, but no way to see how many RP you have.

 

[Princearif]

Did you go to collect the Soldado package (which includes the clothes, and Soldado pistol) at the park with Luna by speaking to Wilfred at the boss's entrance (after promotion event with Blackie)?

That's what I forgot to do, and solved it for me.

Yes i collected the package but no gun :")

 

[whichone]

Yes i collected the package but no gun :")

Have you got the Soldato clothing?

 

[Anthaeus]

I'd like to start with apologizing for actually making a serious post for once, but I need to point out a flaw in my favorite game caused by the new contract system.

During some of the events, references are made to things that happened in the old contracts. As the old contracts aren't there anymore some of the dialogue doesn't make sense.

For example, when the MC is trying to help Isabel and Gracie become friends, he talks about constantly breaking up fights in the tavern, which was one of the old contacts.

No idea what the best way to fix this is, it would probably easier to add contracts that have similar content to the original ones instead of re-working the dialogue, but it's something that's going to bug me until it's sorted out.

As for the new contracts system in general, I prefer it to the old one as I enjoy some light puzzle solving and it makes it feel more like a game instead of a VN to me. We do need a proper introductory mission though, maybe Wilfred could "punish" Dominico, Lothario and Cesarino for training on the house lawn by making them show the MC around town. I'm sure Dominico would enjoy explaining the MC's mistakes to him and the other two could tell him what he should have done.

That's enough seriousness for me to last until we finally get some action with the Dragons.

 

[Princearif]

Have you got the Soldato clothing?

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