JJJ84

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No, in fact iirc at one point (conversation between Cordia and Giacobbe I believe) it's mentioned the original serpents (the ones in that picture) turned on Cordia, it wouldn't make much sense for one of them to then rejoin the new serpents
I don't see why not. Yes, I'm aware that the Serpents turned on Cordia (played through the entire game without fast ctrl skip with the recent update), but that doesn't mean it rules that out.

So far, in the photo MC discovers, there's:

- Cordia
- person with his face burnt off in the photo (my guess, MC's biological father)
- Rina
- Rina's ex-fiance (likely "Serpent")

Even with the rest of Serpents turning on Cordia, there's multiple possibilities of what could have happened. Rina's ex-fiance might have changed sides in the middle of the conflict, or he could have been captured in the end.

Whatever the case the conflict played out, it could very much be that Rina's ex-fiance could have gotten in a situation where he got in "Contract for life" situation, and forced to serve the DeLucas till the day he dies, and he hides his face partly in shame for his betrayal, and partly to conceal his true identity from others (atoning for his sins against the Family for his past betrayal by serving the Family).
And his skills are so great that Cordia and Wilfred can't help but acknowledge him as one of the new Serpents.

I can see that happening.

But of course, we won't know until the past is revealed.


Specifically he mentions this in the context of MC having his father's face, this coming from the person who's defining trait is an effort to conceal his own (to the point of shooting people over it), it wouldn't be too out of left field for the "big reveal" being set up to be "I hate my own face because seeing it reminds me of *insert greatest regret*"
Hiding his own face could be just due to that he could have possibly betrayed Cordia, but that doesn't necessarily need to have connection with MC being his biological son.

I mean, sure I'm not gonna 100% dismiss that possibility (cause in the end, Hopes will reveal how it all came to be), but my feeling is, whenever he sees MC's face, he sees the man who took his love away from him more than anything, and that pain and anger towards MC's biological father is what I think resulted in "Serpent"'s reaction in their first meeting (somewhat similar to what happened in "The Boys" tv series from Prime Video:
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No, in fact iirc at one point (conversation between Cordia and Giacobbe I believe) it's mentioned the original serpents (the ones in that picture) turned on Cordia, it wouldn't make much sense for one of them to then rejoin the new serpents


Specifically he mentions this in the context of MC having his father's face, this coming from the person who's defining trait is an effort to conceal his own (to the point of shooting people over it), it wouldn't be too out of left field for the "big reveal" being set up to be "I hate my own face because seeing it reminds me of *insert greatest regret*"
Giacobbe said the original serpents turned on Cordia but that doesn't mean everyone of them did. Like JJJ84 i also believe that burned face in the picture is the mc 'father'. It could be that he betrayed Cordia and Rina choose her husband over her best friend, 'Serpent' didn't interfere because he couldn't go after the love of his life. There you have it all of them betrayed Cordia for different reasons.
 
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That would be debatable if his mother was not shown preparing for events such as poisoning (its only one reference) but who knows what other scenarios she foresaw to prepare him for.
Added to his attitude towards I'd think she basically prepared him to be a serpent himself and he didn't like a second of it.
 

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Guys, parents don't give their traits to their kids that way. I had two awesome parents and now I am analyzing Mafia Porn Games in a shady forum with some shady people ;)
Sorry to break it to you man but your life was fake and it wouldn't surprise me if both your parents have accounts on his site. Who knows maybe you already interacted with one of them :ROFLMAO:
 

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So basically people in the Family who knows who MC really is (and why he's important/essential to the DeLucas):

- Cordia
- Wilfred
- Antonio (even though he's like the last to know out of everybody in this group lol)
- "Serpent" (probably only one out of the current Serpents who really knows who MC is)
- Gildart ("Captain" of Wilfred's Division, as well as Wilfred's best student)

I'm somehow getting the feeling this list will stop here.
Any more than these 5, and it might come to the point where too many in the Family know everything about the MC for it to be a closely guarded secret.

Though I could be wrong also.
 
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I have a question, how do you obtain rank s in the first mission when you fight the man who is hurting the girl?
Basically just high enough stats to pass the tests and correct decisions (def/eva on first and third, atk on second and fourth). However, there is a script bug so you can only get it on your first encounter with the guy.

Somebody posted a corrected rpy somewhere in this thread but damned if I could find it.
 
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I have a question, how do you obtain rank s in the first mission when you fight the man who is hurting the girl?
I obtained the S rank by getting a flawless victory (didn't get any damage whatsoever, had higher stats. had the best equipment possible etc), but to be honest, I don't know what the minimum requirements are.

Getting the S rank will get you a special render (if I remember correctly, of Cordia and Gracie)
 
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Still can't find the gun in last mission on android port :")
Did you go to collect the Soldado package (which includes the clothes, and Soldado pistol) at the park with Luna by speaking to Wilfred at the boss's entrance (after promotion event with Blackie)?

That's what I forgot to do, and solved it for me.
 

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So basically people in the Family who knows who MC really is (and why he's important/essential to the DeLucas):

- Cordia
- Wilfred
- Antonio (even though he's like the last to know out of everybody in this group lol)
- "Serpent" (probably only one out of the current Serpents who really knows who MC is)
- Gildart ("Captain" of Wilfred's Division, as well as Wilfred's best student)

I'm somehow getting the feeling this list will stop here.
Any more than these 5, and it might come to the point where too many in the Family know everything about the MC for it to be a closely guarded secret.

Though I could be wrong also.
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One thing that I was a little bit surprised, with the aftermath of the Ombra Family Stealth mission (aka "Eiza's sister rescue mission):

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But it's not stated that he's part of the Family. Who he is, is left very ambiguous (if I'm remembering that contract correctly). While it could be possible he could be like Vincent (retired Capo who we see in Isabel's event), nothing is confirmed yet.
There's a chance, he could be a part of DeLucas, but there's also chance he could be not.

The 5 that I listed, are basically confirmed DeLuca Family members, who are also confirmed to know everything about the MC.
 

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So I liked the re-renders in early game
Liked replaying all the ladies (I got as lewd as possible with Cordia, Isabelle, Gracie, and Luna)
Liked the new stuff (Eiza is sexy and so is her sister, and Eiza fucks so THANKS :love:
Though it was weird to have the text mission mix into the very VN feel of the rescue.

As to the new missions: Mixed bag
--This is way more interesting than the old super simple pass / fail
--I do not mind the text so I can Zork my way to stealing or stealthing etc.
--It was nice to have some special renders as a reward (though that still works a bit wonky and I am having trouble with getting them all)
--It was interesting to pop into a bit of VN style content for sexy ladies

--The rewards like rare this and that were sometimes odd, as mentioned getting the pants through failing an attribute check ONLY, or somehow I can never get the rare gloves or the BP Vest. I had to edit my nimble fingers to award those to me for simply stealing the jacket since I gave up trying.
--Not having a mention of attributes that may be checked like charisma so we know to maybe adjust our gear versus this mission wants threat and offense (not as mission required but mentioned as optional in the description)
--As others have said maybe something simpler than nimble fingers for start like delivery boy (This would be good because failing early should be done in that one)
--There is no way to save in mission when you see a new pretty face and want to save (And I finally had the needed CHA)

So since the mission part is minor and able to be skipped it does not detract from an overall good game.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to create it and letting us poor boys get our hands on it for free :)
 
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But it's not stated that he's part of the Family.
That is right. But if he isn´t Part of the Fam than he is not a Enemy.
If he would be an Enemy
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Cuz he know so much that if he would like to he could be really dangerous for us.
 

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Ohh also I did want to suggest:

Do the ladies quests first as the points can help on the missions.

Isabel needs Gracie to go past a certain step and they all need main story III to go to step 2
So do the side mission of The Contract for some cash
do some missions and Main Story to get III completed
Then do all Gracie
Then do all Isabel
Then do all Luna

I felt it was nice to see the story for each girl all at once like this but it is just my suggestion.
 
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Ohh also I did want to suggest:

Do the ladies quests first as the points can help on the missions.

Isabel needs Gracie to go past a certain step and they all need main story III to go to step 2
So do the side mission of The Contract for some cash
do some missions and Main Story to get III completed
Then do all Gracie
Then do all Isabel
Then do all Luna

I felt it was nice to see the story for each girl all at once like this but it is just my suggestion.
What I did was first start off with doing some of the Contracts first to build up some money. Then use that money to pay off some essentials for the girls early events first.

Each of the girls need quite a bit of money to be invested in (for Luna, pants with holes for Gracie, for Gracie, MC's clothes for dancing sessions, for Isabel, at least 2 times to buy her wine, and not to mention there's added cost of the camera/recorder).

With a little bit of grind, and equipment rewards gained from Contracts, by the time Beach Prison event is reached, the player's MC will gain extra money from the event itself as well as the Promotion.
This makes it easier to redo the Contracts and ace them to succeed in the parts where the player may have failed before.

Then having already completed all the girls events which their prerequisites are beach prison event, I finished off the rest of them in following order:

- all Gracie's & Luna's free-roam (except my name is Luna event)
- all Isabel's free-roam (most of Isabel's events requires the player to finish off Gracie's events beforehand)

Then I went on to play more main story & main events until I finished "The Kaskar Family" & "I will protect you", in which after wards I finished Luna's "My name is Luna" event.
After that, finished off all the main story, as well as some old main events (like "Portend")

When that was done, only events that were left were "What is Weak is actually strong" & "Unofficial boss" main events, i.e. the new content, and all done.

Playing it this way I think was an enjoyable experience, though I think everybody will play it differently depending on their preferences.
 
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It's obvious that Luna was not happy that she got excluded being with MC by Cordia and Wilfred by them having her be distracted with a separate mission. She takes her anger out on Cordia & Wilfred (well Cordia, mostly, since Wilfred just shut her down). That was a good addition for Luna's character arc, even though her presence was pretty limited in the new events.

But it does make me question, why Gracie wasn't there to complain as well. Given the penchant of her starting to act more rebelliously and join missions against Cordia's wishes (i.e. Straffan mission), I would have thought she would have noticed MC went to a mission without her knowing even after the Stealth mission was completed (and the fact is, the aftermath event actually takes 2 weeks after the actual mission. That's more than enough time for Gracie to figure everything out).

Would have thought she at least would have made a case to Cordia or Wilfred like Luna did.
I think the reason is Luna had an alliby to present in the room, Gracie didnt. And while Luna openly defies the orders of the family to some extend Gracie did that only one time for show off her talents. Being present in that event wont have obvious rewards but many possibilities of angering family, so why should she attend?


But it's not stated that he's part of the Family. Who he is, is left very ambiguous (if I'm remembering that contract correctly). While it could be possible he could be like Vincent (retired Capo who we see in Isabel's event), nothing is confirmed yet.
There's a chance, he could be a part of DeLucas, but there's also chance he could be not.

The 5 that I listed, are basically confirmed DeLuca Family members, who are also confirmed to know everything about the MC.
He basically said he is the one who "created contract situation" and many other siblings of MC from different mothers. I think he is either DeLuca or from Pacifitoris who is trying to help DeLucas Besides and apart from family Blackie was know who is MC, he said something like "you are a free spirit like your father". So pacifitoris knows about MCs past is verry likely.
 
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