Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[Cartageno]

Complete change of pace once again.

Since character images change while progressing their respective stories and you may not think about it all the time, odds are you'll miss some. Would it be possible to add some arrows or similar to scroll through those already unlocked?

 

[Bassio]

The truth is that I liked this update, I luckily met this game in February and fell in love, even though I expected little compared to the other colleagues here present in this content there is more than a single mission as some say

1-we have Cesarino Lothario and Dominican as a new rival that is the opposite of Mc, Dominico is impulsive and boastful, he has dark eyes and blond hair and the family is everything for him, With the thought of our Mc saying that if he gives him A lesson that did not look so impressive, which gives me to understand that apart from his cunning he knows how to fight and where would he learn it?
2-the contracts I do not see difficulty and that my English is very bad, and in the contracts there are little secrets such as our father's etc. We also know several characters such as the nuns, father, the girl in the pool

3 In the mission to rescue Eiza's sister we know a little more about Mc and also what kind of person he is, we also know siobhan who is now interested in Mc for being something refreshing by giving us the Ombra seal, and those who say that Sex with Eiza can be forced if you look at Eiza from the perspective of a person who spares her life after she tries to kill Mc holds out his hand to save his sister in Eiza's eyes. Mc can be her hero

 

[Valerielychee]

Hey, does somebody know the difference between the exe "The Deluca Family" and the exe "The Deluca Family 32"? I tried to find the answer in the thread, but no such luck...

 

[Cartageno]

Hey, does somebody know the difference between the exe "The Deluca Family" and the exe "The Deluca Family 32"? I tried to find the answer in the thread, but no such luck...

64bit computer or 32bit computer, depends on what you have. RenPy these days automatically creates them both.

 

[Niv-Mizzet the Firemind]

Hey, does somebody know the difference between the exe "The Deluca Family" and the exe "The Deluca Family 32"? I tried to find the answer in the thread, but no such luck...

The first is for 64 bit operating systems and the other for 32 bit operating systems. As a rule of the thumb, you'll want to run the 64 bit version first. If it says that the architecture is not supported or something similar, run the 32 bit version.

 

[edem1978]

i got no further isabel events can someone help me i only have one video of your room the whole time

 

[Niv-Mizzet the Firemind]

i got no further isabel events can someone help me i only have one video of your room the whole time View attachment 1144427

You need to finish all Gracie's quests first.

 

[edem1978]

ok merci

 

[JJJ84]

i got no further isabel events can someone help me i only have one video of your room the whole time View attachment 1144427

To add to what Skataaaaa said above, all events will only unlock after their requirement events (ones in smaller text under the Event title with REQ) are completed.

So of course regarding your "Massage the Actor" event, requirements would be finishing all of Gracie's events (since Feelings? is Gracie's last free-roam event), as well as going to the living room at night time.

Same for every event. Take note of each one's requirements.

 

[Valerielychee]

64bit computer or 32bit computer, depends on what you have. RenPy these days automatically creates them both.

The first is for 64 bit operating systems and the other for 32 bit operating systems. As a rule of the thumb, you'll want to run the 64 bit version first. If it says that the architecture is not supported or something similar, run the 32 bit version.

Thanks!

 

[Vertius]

I got an error when trying to give Isabel the first bottle of wine. I don't know if this was just me or not so I figured I'd post the error in case it can help in any way.

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[Wisblade]

Well, when a huge part of the gameplay changes, due to the code change saves obviously won't work. Several great games went through restarts such as Summer's Gone, Where it All Began, City of Broken Dreamers. So DeLuca definitely isn't the first game to go through something like this, and it definitely won't be the last (and I'm no expert, but I just don't see how Devs will use "import old saves" especially if they are no longer compatible to the new code. I mean even if it somehow works, just seems like a lot of hassle for something the player can solve with fast ctrl skip and an online walkthrough).

Grind really isn't all that bad in the game I think. There is a little bit in the beginning, but as the player goes through more events MC starts earning more money and with better equipment Contracts do get easier to do.

But if the player really doesn't like the gameplay, well the game does give you the option to choose "VN style only" to opt out of the gameplay altogether.

To be honest, if I want a grinding game, I'll go to replay the whole "Final Fantasy" serie... I won't target a VN or VN-like game. I don't mind to grind, seriously - I've played enough RPG for be sure of that. When I play a puzzle game, I don't mind to be stuck for hours on a level.

But here, we're on a "story game"... A lot of text, and not all games here have sexual content - this game don't have a lot of sex and it doesn't matter at all. Grinding is annoying, a "trigger event" should be enough - you do the mission, you get the whole stuff "for free" so playing all missions ONCE is enough.
Free roaming and so on is often fun, but why so much games don't have any hint system?
When we have a choice, why we so often need a mod to have a clue on the consequences? I've played games where it's absolutely AWFUL to get all endings because of one fucking choice in the first ten screens - and the consequences one hour later.

Having a choice between "full game" and "VN mode" isn't a solution - I won't play "VN mode" just because I may miss something, and it's even more annoying than grinding again.

There is technical solutions to import data, but I highly doubt that Ren'Py provides such features. Anyway, it's always annoying to restart a game, whatever reason is behind.

 

[JJJ84]

To be honest, if I want a grinding game, I'll go to replay the whole "Final Fantasy" serie... I won't target a VN or VN-like game. I don't mind to grind, seriously - I've played enough RPG for be sure of that. When I play a puzzle game, I don't mind to be stuck for hours on a level.

But here, we're on a "story game"... A lot of text, and not all games here have sexual content - this game don't have a lot of sex and it doesn't matter at all. Grinding is annoying, a "trigger event" should be enough - you do the mission, you get the whole stuff "for free" so playing all missions ONCE is enough.
Free roaming and so on is often fun, but why so much games don't have any hint system?
When we have a choice, why we so often need a mod to have a clue on the consequences? I've played games where it's absolutely AWFUL to get all endings because of one fucking choice in the first ten screens - and the consequences one hour later.

Having a choice between "full game" and "VN mode" isn't a solution - I won't play "VN mode" just because I may miss something, and it's even more annoying than grinding again.

There is technical solutions to import data, but I highly doubt that Ren'Py provides such features. Anyway, it's always annoying to restart a game, whatever reason is behind.

So,

You're unhappy that you're having to repeat these Contracts more than once?
You don't like it that there's no import data system from your old saves?

I mean if repeating Contracts annoys you that much, i don't really know what to say to be honest.

Hopes' said from very early on when he was giving these Contracts an overhaul, those who don't like the gameplay can just opt for VN mode.
But saying these Contracts should be played just once (which I'm guessing what you're implying in your post with your examples), that would just contradict the core structure of the way these contracts are set up as (i.e. the whole point of them).

I mean I was like you when I first began these contracts, I thought everything can be unlocked or 100% all in one go. But that is not the case at all nor the way it's meant to be played with DeLucas Contracts structure.
The player is not supposed to be all strong enough (in terms of stats of his attributes) to be able to go through everything unlocking it all in their first try.
The game encourages replay with better equipment (through contract's reward or from shops), increased stats (from the main game's events etc).
So what you're wanting is not really a plausible option lol.

It feels like you're saying you don't want to repeat these contracts on one hand, yet you don't want to miss out on the gameplay either. Well, sorry to say, you're out of luck there.
Whichever way it goes. you're bound to be disappointed in your case (guess best thing you can do is fast ctrl skip through everything in the contracts repeats? But if you do that, you miss out on reading some of the good contract stories such as the True Ending of "The Painter" contract).

And as I've said in my previous reply, even if there is solutions to import data (if somehow it even is possible with Ren'py), I just don't see it being worth it from the Devs' side. A lot of hassle for them, yes, yet very little to gain in terms of benefiting the game itself.

 

[Deleted member 2237150]

I am way into the game. I am doing "The Magic Touch" part in Gracie, It says to check the video. I do not have the cameras, I do not see purchase cameras on my laptop. Is there a way to buy the cameras?

Thanks

 

[Cabin Fever]

Finally finished v0.07.1. Here are my random musings. Sorry if they've been mentioned before. There are simply too many posts since the release to read them all.

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[BayJay47]

wow, all old saves dead? Big f. I liked this game but I'm probably not going to grind through it again just to get back to where I was.

 

[Cabin Fever]

wow, all old saves dead? Big f. I liked this game but I'm probably not going to grind through it again just to get back to where I was.

It's been well publicized that old saves will not work for months. Your loss if you don't want to start over.

 

[Wisblade]

So what you're wanting is not really a plausible option lol.

Yeah, it's more logic to rob the same item twice, to escort the same guy for the same event, and why not to kill the same guy twice...
More seriously, it's not a MedFan world with magic, resurrection and respawns... But whatever.

Think about it another way: your save is mostly a matter of what stuff you have, the main paths you chose, and what you triggered - considering that you went to the full end of the last version. You really, really think it's impossible to import? Or to ask questions about this? You never used a savefile editor for Ren'Py to see how much it isn't a technical problem?
Ren'Py don't help devs for that, OK, but it isn't a real, huge problem - but it starts to be a problem to break saves when the game is quite advanced. Skipping with "Ctrl" don't work for unread text - and you know that this isn't kept well between updates - OR you need to enable "Skip all" - therefore you'll miss new texts, and it MAY be a real problem if game structure is heavily changed.

But if you don't want to understand, OK. Game is interesting enough to not drop it only because of that, and if it happens only once. But I already dropped games because of that - they weren't interesting enough to replay them, OR they were too complex/long to endure it again.

I play for FUN. Not for being annoyed. If it's not your case, you MAY have missed something...

EDIT: If you're old enough, think about gamebooks... You were able to play/read them without dices, just by deciding that you won each fight without doing the real combat. You were also able to get back in the story (like Ren'Py games, BTW) when a wrong path was chosen. Most enigmas were possible to solve without finding the real clues. And it was fun. That's how a VN game SHOULD be possible to play - if the player want it easy, without grinding, without replaying the game N times to see all ends, without hard enigmas, it SHOULD be possible.

 

[JJJ84]

Finally finished v0.07.1. Here are my random musings. Sorry if they've been mentioned before. There are simply too many posts since the release to read them all.

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Regarding the 3 soldatos, well DeLucas is one of the big 5, so I'd imagine there are several hundreds (?) of Soldatos in the Family.
Hence I guess we can't always expect to see them (Only soldatos I remember seeing or mentioned are Trino & Leo [from Beach Prison event, being Antonio's soldiers] & soldatos that had to be saved from Caterina from a Fazio soldier in Straffan mission).

Probably there are Soldatos under other Capos, Elite Soldatos etc out there doing other missions for the Family that doesn't involve the MC.

One thing is for sure. Hopes did say that MC will go to the mountains with the 4 Serpents to train with his rival in the future, and that rival I'm guessing will be Dominico.

 

[JJJ84]

Yeah, it's more logic to rob the same item twice, to escort the same guy for the same event, and why not to kill the same guy twice...
More seriously, it's not a MedFan world with magic, resurrection and respawns... But whatever.

Think about it another way: your save is mostly a matter of what stuff you have, the main paths you chose, and what you triggered - considering that you went to the full end of the last version. You really, really think it's impossible to import? Or to ask questions about this? You never used a savefile editor for Ren'Py to see how much it isn't a technical problem?
Ren'Py don't help devs for that, OK, but it isn't a real, huge problem - but it starts to be a problem to break saves when the game is quite advanced. Skipping with "Ctrl" don't work for unread text - and you know that this isn't kept well between updates - OR you need to enable "Skip all" - therefore you'll miss new texts, and it MAY be a real problem if game structure is heavily changed.

But if you don't want to understand, OK. Game is interesting enough to not drop it only because of that, and if it happens only once. But I already dropped games because of that - they weren't interesting enough to replay them, OR they were too complex/long to endure it again.

I play for FUN. Not for being annoyed. If it's not your case, you MAY have missed something...

Look I'm not saying DeLuca's gameplay system is perfect, but doing it only once and getting everything in that one try would make no sense for MC to have stats at all.
Actually, doing so would make the entire gameplay pretty much moot.
I mean why even bother with the gameplay at all in that case? The player's MC is meant to grow stronger after initial failures in these contracts and do better in their retries of them with better equipment or stats at the shop (as I said before, and saying it again lol).
And sure, it's not a Fantasy game, but still if you're really questioning the logics behind it, why hasn't MC been found out yet for doing all these naughty things to the girls in the house such as living room etc, where anyone can clearly see without privacy?

If you only look at above example with logic, it won't make sense, but all players accept it because it's part of the game's structure, not because it's something logical.
It's the same thing with Contracts. From only the logics standpoint, it makes no sense for MC to repeat the same contract more than once yes, but people accept it because that's how the gameplay is structured and the base in which Contracts are built on, doing better with retries.

I'm no expert in coding, or even ren'py but what Hopes said was pretty clear (and this was at least 3 months or so ago): there is too much change of code with the overhaul with these Contracts and previous saves are just NOT compatible at all to continue, and everyone will need to start again. And sure there were few people disappointed with it but everyone basically accepted it and moved on (perhaps you should have asked Hopes himself this question back then).

And yes, I'm fine with restarts to games if they're justified. Not because I play to be annoyed (questioning whether I play for fun or not? lol), but because I love the game in general, and because I think things that are getting changed making me restart are worth it.
Cause if I drop the game just cause I get a even a bit annoyed with it, well I'd imagine there would be whole bunch of great games out there in this site that I'd be missing out on just because I got impatient with them.

There are things that I do wish improved with the DeLucas contracts (Which I already posted about to Hopes), but I just don't think "making them once 100% playthroughs" or "save import" would be any of them. For me, they just feel like waste of Hopes time and resources that could be better spent elsewhere.